Car died today

travisjb · 10-16-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleB

3/4 or 1/4? I hope you didn't mean 3/4!

Unfortunately, yes, 3/4. I've had fuel cut-off / starvation with only 3-4 "dots" from a full tank. When you pull 1G right hand turn for more than ~3-4 seconds it is enough to deplete the fuel surrounding the pickup point at the fuel pump in the tank.

There is another thread started recently to discuss this issue and potential solutions. Would be helpful for us all to go there and post.

travisjb · 10-16-2009, 12:38 PM

Here it is: Fuel starvation, who else?

jakoye · 10-16-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

Here it is: Fuel starvation, who else?

Wow. That's pretty pathetic. No car should die because you're low on gas and on a hill/slope. Sounds like a problem a Model T would have, not a 21st century car.

travisjb · 10-16-2009, 09:35 PM

while i agree, there are many models that have this problem including most bmws... so before you get on your nissan bashing high horse...

Pharmacist · 10-16-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

Wow. That's pretty pathetic. No car should die because you're low on gas and on a hill/slope. Sounds like a problem a Model T would have, not a 21st century car.

No car should come with a solid rear axle either. That's something that belongs on a model t, not a 21st century car

chirojin · 10-16-2009, 10:02 PM

warrenty covered I think

jakoye · 10-16-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

while i agree, there are many models that have this problem including most bmws... so before you get on your nissan bashing high horse...

I have no desire to get on that horse. But this is simply inexcusable. And no, "other cars do it" is not an acceptable excuse!

jakoye · 10-16-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

No car should come with a solid rear axle either. That's something that belongs on a model t, not a 21st century car

Heh. Agreed. But which is worse: a car with a solid rear axle or one that won't go?

travisjb · 10-16-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chirojin

warrenty covered I think

unfortunately not. you really have to pull sustained right-hand turn high g's for this to be an issue. and nissan can 'reasonably' claim that those conditions only exist on a race track.

ChrisSlicks · 10-19-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

unfortunately not. you really have to pull sustained right-hand turn high g's for this to be an issue. and nissan can 'reasonably' claim that those conditions only exist on a race track.

Well, you can do it in a more or less stock car as I proved, but you need considerably less fuel in the tank. Disappointing but not unexpected, it is a common problem in modern pressurized fuel systems.

kannibul · 10-19-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

Wow. That's pretty pathetic. No car should die because you're low on gas and on a hill/slope. Sounds like a problem a Model T would have, not a 21st century car.

Why put the pickup in the front of the tank, I mean you don't need fuel to stop.

travisjb · 10-19-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Well, you can do it in a more or less stock car as I proved, but you need considerably less fuel in the tank. Disappointing but not unexpected, it is a common problem in modern pressurized fuel systems.

on street tires, it takes 3-4 seconds with full - 4/5 "dots" to get 'studder'

on race tires, I would imagine the same conditions could starve the motor to the point of stall

still, how many turns do you know of on the street that require driving at 1.0g for 3-4 seconds ??? this falls into the category of so many other things on this car that are not 'race ready'... it is what it is... part of the reason we pay $34K not $70K

ChrisSlicks · 10-20-2009, 08:18 PM

Well, no street corner requires 1.0g, but there are lots of corners that are a heck of a lot more fun at 1.0g! If they didn't want us pulling 1.0g corners they should have put the base wheels on all around.

j.arnaldo · 10-21-2009, 02:55 PM

Still under warranty? Go, go, go!

RCZ · 10-21-2009, 05:18 PM

Chris, I dont know if you read what happened to me on the track a few months ago. Same exact thing. Tank said quarter and after about a lap it died. Same exact thing...got it towed back to the paddock to check it over. Nothing wrong, turned it on to accessory and saw the tank was now empty.

Refuled, restarted and problem solved. Like I said, be careful with low gas levels on this car..they are very misleading.

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