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The NISMO redeems itself...ish

I've been somewhat vocal about the NISMO 370Z's shortfalls and how it has failed to impress in every documented test/comparison we've seen. From US magazines to Best Motoring Tsukuba Battles,

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Old 10-12-2009, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been somewhat vocal about the NISMO 370Z's shortfalls and how it has failed to impress in every documented test/comparison we've seen. From US magazines to Best Motoring Tsukuba Battles, the NISMO always seemed to lag behind other competitors, not to mention the Base/Sport, being the topic of several heated threads on this forum.

Finally, it seems as if the NISMO has finished a test on pace with other performance-cars. In a Best Motoring video posted on YouTube just yesterday, the NISMO 370Z "battles" a TOM's-tuned IS-F, STI Spec-C, NSX-R, and a Ralliart Evo X. All except for the IS-F posted a somewhat mediocre 1:06.xxx lap-time around Tsukuba, but it is a feat for the Z to almost tie the NSX-R, none the less.

To those who previously bashed Best Motoring videos...feel free to hold the same opinion now that the NISMO wasn't embarrassed. Discredit the testing as unfair, biased, inconclusive, and inconsistent. I am, however, just presenting more information to draw conclusions off of, as I try to do a pretty good job holding no bias one way or the other...

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at 28 sec, these are the sport package tires. i thought the nismo comes with yokohama advan with 285 mm rear width ?????

Also wats an evo x ralliart? The ralliart is a mid level lancer model above the base but slower and cheaper than the evolution.



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Let's get a Best Motoring race between a Nismo 370, Sport 370 and Base 370. Throw a Nismo 350 and Base 350 in there to mix it up too.
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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To those who previously bashed Best Motoring videos...feel free to hold the same opinion now that the NISMO wasn't embarrassed. Discredit the testing as unfair, biased, inconclusive, and inconsistent. I am, however, just presenting more information to draw conclusions off of, as I try to do a pretty good job holding no bias one way or the other...
Hehe, well said.
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ralliart is mitsubishi racing division.its like their nismo.
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Yah, id like to see how the Base 6MT does against the group.

Nissan shouldve just released the Nismo as a "Track" edition and put more real perf mods on the Nismo to keep up with the Porsches and Vettes...

But that's just me.
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if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???
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if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???
because in japan not having navi is like a car without a steering wheel.
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because in japan not having navi is like a car without a steering wheel.
Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.
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Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment.
Please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...
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Please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...
The only one round here need slappin is you.
This has been an issue in many a car magazine, over and over and over again.
This is y they never wanted to send over the GTR and skyline. Nissan felt that to bring the name over the US needed to either let go of some of its retrictions to keep the integrity of the car or not send them. The US wouldn't make the exception so they opted out.
They made an agreement that we would get a version of the skyline in the infiniti G37.
This car is not as capable as a skyline. If it were? Tuners wouldn't be ordering 5 year old skylines from japan at new G37 prices.
So now u r just really tryin to sell this NISMO thing to the public so bad that anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off. Well get over it dude.
You went from a touring (with NO SPORT PKG) to a NISMO, so I'm sure u feel improvements and after taking a nasty loss in depreciation to buy "the best Z" n brag about it. I'm sure u were expecting this car to kick the base sport a$$. Sorry u didn't wait for the reviews. Sh1t happens!
Now u stuck on the internet trying to find any bit of info that will change the minds of the 70% of people the NISMO Isn't worth it so u can justify taking a $4k+ loss. I feel u. But the slaps keep comin to your face n out ya a$$ "bruh"
Truth is the nismo is a nice track car on a general level but by comparison of its understudy, its a fail. Plain and simple. It gets .01g more than sport cuz it has wider tires. Any fool can purchase a $2,500 in a wheel n tire package in $350 sways n get .99g.
The 350z was a much better track car dollar for dollar cuz of all its "TRUE" track enhancements, like chassis strengthening, and dampening, weight reduction instead of gaining 50lbs. Plus a few extra to list.
Like I said once b4. The nismo is a great car, and has no competition in its price range. So its a good car. But when u compare it to its brother. Its a fail at a $6,000 price hike.
Just look at a NISMO 350 and it tells u the whole story.
If the nismo was 36,000 from the base sports 33000. I would say great package. Jump on it. At 39,700. Lol. You gotta be kiddin me!
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Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.
we better overnight one of those puppies from Japan yo!
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Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.
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