The NISMO redeems itself...ish

JoeD · 10-12-2009, 05:12 PM

I've been somewhat vocal about the NISMO 370Z's shortfalls and how it has failed to impress in every documented test/comparison we've seen. From US magazines to Best Motoring Tsukuba Battles, the NISMO always seemed to lag behind other competitors, not to mention the Base/Sport, being the topic of several heated threads on this forum.

Finally, it seems as if the NISMO has finished a test on pace with other performance-cars. In a Best Motoring video posted on YouTube just yesterday, the NISMO 370Z "battles" a TOM's-tuned IS-F, STI Spec-C, NSX-R, and a Ralliart Evo X. All except for the IS-F posted a somewhat mediocre 1:06.xxx lap-time around Tsukuba, but it is a feat for the Z to almost tie the NSX-R, none the less.

To those who previously bashed Best Motoring videos...feel free to hold the same opinion now that the NISMO wasn't embarrassed. Discredit the testing as unfair, biased, inconclusive, and inconsistent. I am, however, just presenting more information to draw conclusions off of, as I try to do a pretty good job holding no bias one way or the other...

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Pharmacist · 10-12-2009, 05:26 PM

at 28 sec, these are the sport package tires. i thought the nismo comes with yokohama advan with 285 mm rear width ?????

Also wats an evo x ralliart? The ralliart is a mid level lancer model above the base but slower and cheaper than the evolution.

At 3:18 HOLY ****! That's a FAST shift!

spearfish25 · 10-12-2009, 05:40 PM

Let's get a Best Motoring race between a Nismo 370, Sport 370 and Base 370. Throw a Nismo 350 and Base 350 in there to mix it up too.

RCZ · 10-12-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD

To those who previously bashed Best Motoring videos...feel free to hold the same opinion now that the NISMO wasn't embarrassed. Discredit the testing as unfair, biased, inconclusive, and inconsistent. I am, however, just presenting more information to draw conclusions off of, as I try to do a pretty good job holding no bias one way or the other...

Hehe, well said.

aling lukring · 10-12-2009, 07:00 PM

ralliart is mitsubishi racing division.its like their nismo.

kenchan · 10-12-2009, 08:49 PM

Yah, id like to see how the Base 6MT does against the group.

Nissan shouldve just released the Nismo as a "Track" edition and put more real perf mods on the Nismo to keep up with the Porsches and Vettes...

But that's just me.

FuszNissan · 10-12-2009, 08:57 PM

Interesting

alexanderb · 10-12-2009, 09:27 PM

if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???

kenchan · 10-12-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexanderb

if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???

because in japan not having navi is like a car without a steering wheel.

kenchan · 10-12-2009, 10:27 PM

"ill kick all your f-king asses when the LF-A comes" says the tom's driver.

hahaha.

need4speed · 10-12-2009, 10:29 PM

370z's in japan are not held to the safety standards here in the US. This Z May Possibly be 200 or 300 lbs lighter and may be using better quality internal parts. My friend in the service lived in japan 10 years. In that time he owned a bluebird, skyline and fairlady. He said the nissans in japan are a different breed. Much much better than the ones shipped to america. So for our soil. This article is extremely subjective.

Nikon FM · 10-12-2009, 11:27 PM

Fun looking track to drive. Not sure about the "bumper" car driving though. I'd like to see individual lap times (ran solo) to see what car/driver could put down the best times.

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

because in japan not having navi is like a car without a steering wheel.

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.

JoeD · 10-13-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment.

Please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...

Greg · 10-13-2009, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexanderb

if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???

It's Japan's way of payback for the 2 nukes.

JDM and Europe (not 100% sure) Nismo's get most of the options the std Z's are offered. Leather, mp3, Nav etc. etc.. It was the same story with the Nismo 350. We always get shafted here in the states with this no options Nismo enhanced base Z nonsense.

10-12-2009, 05:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	The NISMO redeems itself...ish I've been somewhat vocal about the NISMO 370Z's shortfalls and how it has failed to impress in every documented test/comparison we've seen. From US magazines to Best Motoring Tsukuba Battles, the NISMO always seemed to lag behind other competitors, not to mention the Base/Sport, being the topic of several heated threads on this forum. Finally, it seems as if the NISMO has finished a test on pace with other performance-cars. In a Best Motoring video posted on YouTube just yesterday, the NISMO 370Z "battles" a TOM's-tuned IS-F, STI Spec-C, NSX-R, and a Ralliart Evo X. All except for the IS-F posted a somewhat mediocre 1:06.xxx lap-time around Tsukuba, but it is a feat for the Z to almost tie the NSX-R, none the less. To those who previously bashed Best Motoring videos...feel free to hold the same opinion now that the NISMO wasn't embarrassed. Discredit the testing as unfair, biased, inconclusive, and inconsistent. I am, however, just presenting more information to draw conclusions off of, as I try to do a pretty good job holding no bias one way or the other... [YOUTUBEHQ]GCRwKv4qQ5k[/YOUTUBEHQ] Last edited by JoeD; 10-12-2009 at 05:15 PM.

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Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	at 28 sec, these are the sport package tires. i thought the nismo comes with yokohama advan with 285 mm rear width ????? Also wats an evo x ralliart? The ralliart is a mid level lancer model above the base but slower and cheaper than the evolution. At 3:18 HOLY ***! That's a FAST shift! Last edited by Pharmacist; 10-12-2009 at 05:37 PM.*

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Nikon FM Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Snoqualmie WA Posts: 973 Drives: 03 996TT Porsche Rep Power: 606	Fun looking track to drive. Not sure about the "bumper" car driving though. I'd like to see individual lap times (ran solo) to see what car/driver could put down the best times. __________________ Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"

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spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Let's get a Best Motoring race between a Nismo 370, Sport 370 and Base 370. Throw a Nismo 350 and Base 350 in there to mix it up too.

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aling lukring Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: florida Posts: 67 Drives: 09 370z silver 6spd Rep Power: 16	ralliart is mitsubishi racing division.its like their nismo.

10-12-2009, 08:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Yah, id like to see how the Base 6MT does against the group. Nissan shouldve just released the Nismo as a "Track" edition and put more real perf mods on the Nismo to keep up with the Porsches and Vettes... But that's just me.

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alexanderb Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manila Posts: 171 Drives: PG 370 Tour/Sprt/Nav Rep Power: 270	if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???

10-12-2009, 10:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	"ill kick all your f-king asses when the LF-A comes" says the tom's driver. hahaha.

10-12-2009, 10:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
need4speed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tx Posts: 199 Drives: 08 altima 3.5se Rep Power: 16	370z's in japan are not held to the safety standards here in the US. This Z May Possibly be 200 or 300 lbs lighter and may be using better quality internal parts. My friend in the service lived in japan 10 years. In that time he owned a bluebird, skyline and fairlady. He said the nissans in japan are a different breed. Much much better than the ones shipped to america. So for our soil. This article is extremely subjective.