The NISMO redeems itself...ish

RedComet · 10-13-2009, 08:35 AM

Great stuff! I love watching Best Motoring. Sucks the Nismo Z34 didn't place as high as some of us would have liked but oh well. Entertaining to say the least.

Pharmacist · 10-13-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg

It's Japan's way of payback for the 2 nukes.

JDM and Europe (not 100% sure) Nismo's get most of the options the std Z's are offered. Leather, mp3, Nav etc. etc.. It was the same story with the Nismo 350. We always get shafted here in the states with this no options Nismo enhanced base Z nonsense.

Canada doesnt even get the nismo at all. THe 350 nismo never made it here. The handful of 350 nismos here were all imported american models. And so far, there's no indication the 370 nismo will be here either

rednek01 · 10-13-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.

we better overnight one of those puppies from Japan yo!

xfrgtr · 10-13-2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg

It's Japan's way of payback for the 2 nukes.

JDM and Europe (not 100% sure) Nismo's get most of the options the std Z's are offered. Leather, mp3, Nav etc. etc.. It was the same story with the Nismo 350. We always get shafted here in the states with this no options Nismo enhanced base Z nonsense.

There is no nismo in europe

370Zsteve · 10-13-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joed

please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...

lmao

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...

The only one round here need slappin is you.
This has been an issue in many a car magazine, over and over and over again.
This is y they never wanted to send over the GTR and skyline. Nissan felt that to bring the name over the US needed to either let go of some of its retrictions to keep the integrity of the car or not send them. The US wouldn't make the exception so they opted out.
They made an agreement that we would get a version of the skyline in the infiniti G37.
This car is not as capable as a skyline. If it were? Tuners wouldn't be ordering 5 year old skylines from japan at new G37 prices.
So now u r just really tryin to sell this NISMO thing to the public so bad that anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off. Well get over it dude.
You went from a touring (with NO SPORT PKG) to a NISMO, so I'm sure u feel improvements and after taking a nasty loss in depreciation to buy "the best Z" n brag about it. I'm sure u were expecting this car to kick the base sport a$$. Sorry u didn't wait for the reviews. Sh1t happens!
Now u stuck on the internet trying to find any bit of info that will change the minds of the 70% of people the NISMO Isn't worth it so u can justify taking a $4k+ loss. I feel u. But the slaps keep comin to your face n out ya a$$ "bruh"
Truth is the nismo is a nice track car on a general level but by comparison of its understudy, its a fail. Plain and simple. It gets .01g more than sport cuz it has wider tires. Any fool can purchase a $2,500 in a wheel n tire package in $350 sways n get .99g.
The 350z was a much better track car dollar for dollar cuz of all its "TRUE" track enhancements, like chassis strengthening, and dampening, weight reduction instead of gaining 50lbs. Plus a few extra to list.
Like I said once b4. The nismo is a great car, and has no competition in its price range. So its a good car. But when u compare it to its brother. Its a fail at a $6,000 price hike.
Just look at a NISMO 350 and it tells u the whole story.
If the nismo was 36,000 from the base sports 33000. I would say great package. Jump on it. At 39,700. Lol. You gotta be kiddin me!

theDreamer · 10-13-2009, 10:45 AM

And I thought today was going to be another boring day on campus.

rednek01 · 10-13-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka

The only one round here need slappin is you.
This has been an issue in many a car magazine, over and over and over again.
This is y they never wanted to send over the GTR and skyline. Nissan felt that to bring the name over the US needed to either let go of some of its retrictions to keep the integrity of the car or not send them. The US wouldn't make the exception so they opted out.
They made an agreement that we would get a version of the skyline in the infiniti G37.
This car is not as capable as a skyline. If it were? Tuners wouldn't be ordering 5 year old skylines from japan at new G37 prices.
So now u r just really tryin to sell this NISMO thing to the public so bad that anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off. Well get over it dude.
You went from a touring (with NO SPORT PKG) to a NISMO, so I'm sure u feel improvements and after taking a nasty loss in depreciation to buy "the best Z" n brag about it. I'm sure u were expecting this car to kick the base sport a$$. Sorry u didn't wait for the reviews. Sh1t happens!
Now u stuck on the internet trying to find any bit of info that will change the minds of the 70% of people the NISMO Isn't worth it so u can justify taking a $4k+ loss. I feel u. But the slaps keep comin to your face n out ya a$$ "bruh"
Truth is the nismo is a nice track car on a general level but by comparison of its understudy, its a fail. Plain and simple. It gets .01g more than sport cuz it has wider tires. Any fool can purchase a $2,500 in a wheel n tire package in $350 sways n get .99g.
The 350z was a much better track car dollar for dollar cuz of all its "TRUE" track enhancements, like chassis strengthening, and dampening, weight reduction instead of gaining 50lbs. Plus a few extra to list.
Like I said once b4. The nismo is a great car, and has no competition in its price range. So its a good car. But when u compare it to its brother. Its a fail at a $6,000 price hike.
Just look at a NISMO 350 and it tells u the whole story.
If the nismo was 36,000 from the base sports 33000. I would say great package. Jump on it. At 39,700. Lol. You gotta be kiddin me!

So you are attacking a guy because he upgraded from a base Z to the Nismo (which I agree is a joke but is still an upgrade over the base that he had) Yet you are the one talking about how they use more carbon fiber and titanium on the "Japanese version"?

xfrgtr · 10-13-2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.

rednek01 · 10-13-2009, 10:50 AM

Kinda the same reason I bought the American version of the Mustang because the block and internals are built out of Unobtanium so it cannot break

TX_370 · 10-13-2009, 10:55 AM

theDreamer · 10-13-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TX_370

Hey, stuck in class, can you grab me some coffee, need to stay awake for this thread (class is just a bonus).

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednek01

So you are attacking a guy because he upgraded from a base Z to the Nismo (which I agree is a joke but is still an upgrade over the base that he had) Yet you are the one talking about how they use more carbon fiber and titanium on the "Japanese version"?

Huh... they use more lightweight materials cuz safety regs are far less stringent. Cars are lighter. I'm not attacking him. I'm just stating facts. Maybe if he wasn't tellin me to slap people in the face n make racial (guido comments it wouldn't come out the way it did. And it did. And wat? Wats ur point? I'm just beon real. Speak with respevct n u will be respected. Talk down to people n u will get the same in return. I'm not attacking him. I'm just giving back what I'm getting.

theDreamer · 10-13-2009, 11:31 AM

First, please use full words and sentences, makes your arguments a bit better and easier for others.
Second, you come in here stating "facts" that Nissan Japan cars using lighter material but with no links to real facts. Provide some, current, data on this and we will believe it but until then..well you see what happens.

10-13-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Maybe if he wasn't tellin me to slap people in the face n make racial (guido comments it wouldn't come out the way it did.

He didnt just tell you to slap people...he told you to slap yourself

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10-13-2009, 11:31 AM	#29 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	First, please use full words and sentences, makes your arguments a bit better and easier for others. Second, you come in here stating "facts" that Nissan Japan cars using lighter material but with no links to real facts. Provide some, current, data on this and we will believe it but until then..well you see what happens. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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RedComet Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 142 Drives: Spaceship Rep Power: 16	Great stuff! I love watching Best Motoring. Sucks the Nismo Z34 didn't place as high as some of us would have liked but oh well. Entertaining to say the least.