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Old 02-07-2015, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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uhmm let's say that the circumference around the Equator is 25k miles or so. I've been driving since 1973 illegally and legally since 1975. Driven rear wheel drive cars most f my youth since only trucks where 4 wheel drive and front wheel was not in the picture, lived all my life in NE and they didn't cancel school like now when a snow flake comes down, I drove a tractor trailer professionally for about 8 years and driven cross country numerous times from N to S and E to W and have not gotten in an accident caused by me do the math in miles driven.. I'll take my chances ..
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uhmm let's say that the circumference around the Equator is 25k miles or so. I've been driving since 1973 illegally and legally since 1975. Driven rear wheel drive cars most f my youth since only trucks where 4 wheel drive and front wheel was not in the picture, lived all my life in NE and they didn't cancel school like now when a snow flake comes down, I drove a tractor trailer professionally for about 8 years and driven cross country numerous times from N to S and E to W and have not gotten in an accident caused by me do the math in miles driven.. I'll take my chances ..
Sure, you can probably get away with driving a Z in snow, but why would you? According to your profile you're 56 years old, so you have plenty of experience and know damn well that a Z is one of the worst winter-performing cars you can possibly buy. Why not have a winter beater and stop endangering yourself and everyone else on the road? They're out there; I got a 2004 Grand Cherokee for $1500.

Here's why I don't drive lightweight RWD cars in the winter if I have an alternative. It's just common sense. The first one is me last year, the 2nd is my wife 2 weeks ago.
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Sure, you can probably get away with driving a Z in snow, but why would you? According to your profile you're 56 years old, so you have plenty of experience and know damn well that a Z is one of the worst winter-performing cars you can possibly buy. Why not have a winter beater and stop endangering yourself and everyone else on the road? They're out there; I got a 2004 Grand Cherokee for $1500.

Here's why I don't drive lightweight RWD cars in the winter if I have an alternative. It's just common sense. The first one is me last year, the 2nd is my wife 2 weeks ago.
I have wifey's 2014 Rogue to my disposal since she works from home. Clearly if we get a blizzard I will choose the Rogue but my point here is that I bought the Z as my daily driver and will drive it during the Winter because I control the vehicle not just aim it as most people do. I don't text, drink or eat in the car I drive because is not the car that causes accidents but most times is driver error. I went to both tractor trailer school and Top Gun driving classes back in the day (not sure if even exists now) so I'm confident not cocky that I can maneuver the vehicle under most driving conditions and well I'm going off topic but thank's for the advise
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I bought a Pathfinder to replace my old Volvo this winter. VQ love!
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Sure, you can probably get away with driving a Z in snow, but why would you? According to your profile you're 56 years old, so you have plenty of experience and know damn well that a Z is one of the worst winter-performing cars you can possibly buy. Why not have a winter beater and stop endangering yourself and everyone else on the road? They're out there; I got a 2004 Grand Cherokee for $1500.

Here's why I don't drive lightweight RWD cars in the winter if I have an alternative. It's just common sense. The first one is me last year, the 2nd is my wife 2 weeks ago.
While I understand where you're coming from, and agree that a winter beater would be the best option, I'll argue that the Z really isn't that awful in the snow.

The Z has 3 issues in the snow: 1. Clearance, 2. Stock tires. 3. Other drivers who think their SUVs & FWD/AWD cars with all season tires are tanks.

Everything else (RWD for example) is not that big of a deal.

With winter tires, the Z is completely reasonable in the snow, provided it isn't so much that you're plowing it and assuming you drive reasonably with respect to the conditions. My Z with winter tires handles better than my Altima with all seasons ever did in the snow.

Anyway, this topic has been beaten to death on these forums. Youtube can provide at least 5-6 videos of Zs getting around just fine in the snow.
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Here's my wifes winter 'beater', it was her DD before she got her Z. Her car doesn't leave the driveway if there's salt on the roads, much less snow. People in St.Louis can't drve in the snow, so it's better to drive the tank and leave the Z in the driveway where it's safe.
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Sure, you can probably get away with driving a Z in snow, but why would you? According to your profile you're 56 years old, so you have plenty of experience and know damn well that a Z is one of the worst winter-performing cars you can possibly buy. Why not have a winter beater and stop endangering yourself and everyone else on the road? They're out there; I got a 2004 Grand Cherokee for $1500.

Here's why I don't drive lightweight RWD cars in the winter if I have an alternative. It's just common sense. The first one is me last year, the 2nd is my wife 2 weeks ago.
First off a Z isn't lightweight haha. Fuel and drivers 3500 lbs. A Miatas light weight. Second Id take a Corvette with snow tires vs anything else with with summers or all seasons. Stoping and turning has NOTHING to do with power or RWD!

If you crashed those cars like that it was because of poor equipment, poor skills or both. Pretty sure this is why it's illegal to have a car in Germany during winter without and ice/snow tire.
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Exactly what Scott just said. I don't daily drive the Z, but I do take it out once or twice a week. I live in Montreal and the winters are pretty harsh here, with lots of ice, slush and snow.

I never had any problems controlling any of the RWD vehicules I owned. (1987 chevette, 1989 mustang gt) And back then winter tires weren't even mandatory, now they are from Dec 15th to March 15th, and they make a HUGE difference.
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Here's why I don't drive lightweight RWD cars in the winter if I have an alternative. It's just common sense. The first one is me last year, the 2nd is my wife 2 weeks ago.
Notice they are both mustangs? I'm not sure that's a coincident...I drive my Z all year round have over 200,000 miles on it half are winter, good tires and it's fine. Just don't drive like a A-hole.
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Notice they are both mustangs? I'm not sure that's a coincident...I drive my Z all year round have over 200,000 miles on it half are winter, good tires and it's fine. Just don't drive like a A-hole.
I drove through 14 winters in that car before my luck finally ran out. I was only going 40mph at the time; the road went from wet to icy very suddenly and I wasn't the only one in the median that day... one of the people who stopped was in a 350Z and he was crapping nickles. In fact someone I work with slid his 350Z off the road that very same afternoon, only difference was there didn't happen to be a sign in the way when he went off. The point is $h*t happens in RWD cars when the roads get slick and you're better off with a winter beater, preferably 4WD.

I got my salvaged 04 Grand Cherokee (72k miles) for $1500 and have another 2k in fixing everything that's wrong with it and adding a lift kit and various accessories. By the time I finish painting it this spring it's actually going to be quite nice. Best insurance policy I ever got.
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