^^The Nismo GTR would be an awesome car to own, and you really don't have to worry about driving it harshly. It's not a frail little supercar, it's made to be driven.

The Z35 is likely to be a turbo 4 cylinder, which is a step away from what I would want (turbo V6).

However, these cars don't compete with each other. There's a $100k difference in price, so make your decision based on what you can afford.

you misunderstood. im not cross shopping I already bought the NISMO GTR its on a boat and will be here in a few weeks. Its the #1 car ever built for the US which is giving me anxiety about driving it but on a limited basis like to the track or maybe on a backroad on the weekends. certianly not in stop and go traffic as its pretty much irreplaceable being the first ever NISMO VIN#

Im debating on getting a NISMO Z too this winter/spring to be a daily driver so I can just enjoy the car autoX it and use the GTR sparingly. my daily driver now is a 2005 NISMO frontier and I want something I really love if im going to be driving it 90% of the time

If I could swing it, I'd have both for sure. :driving:

yeah the NISMO Z is great I had a NISMO S-tune 350 and then the 2007 NISMO 350 and really loved them both.

I just love the seats on the NISMO Z. when I sat in them they were better than the Recaros in the GTR

then when I saw the pics of the black that did it for me!

http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbcd9a73d.png

Liking the price of the new nismo.

Testing out the feel of that automatic knob, yo!

MC, you've got some first world problems haha. I got the first Nismo GTR, but it's too rare to enjoy.

I wonder if the 3.9 final drive will make the manual faster than the auto.

yeah that does sound pretty bad. didnt mean for it to come off like that but its sadly true to a degree though but some of it might be me overreacting a bit

im just really excited about the NISMO Z and interested in picking one up... just not sure its the right/best move. When I saw it in May I was a fan but didnt think much about it until seeing the black pics earlier this week and then the MSRP today. that base NISMO in 6MT could probably be bought for mid upper 30's OTD and thats intriguing as it would make a perfect car for me

I want to see some of you guys take delivery and get some time in the car though

MC I agree with you on the GTR. If I had the funds to have it and get a 370 I would almost never take it out. Like you said above, its more of a trophy and a collectors car than anything due to it being #1. Even a dent in the door by some stupid **** would drive me insane hahaha.

I say get both. Keep gtr as a trophy and 370 to kill :D

MC, it will be interesting to post the same question on 6speedonline or The GTR board and see if you get the same answer.

^^ if you plan on getting a 370 i guess now would be the perfect time to do it, my guess is you have a solid 2 years to play until the new Z hits the streets. And any later you will feel like an owner of a c6 when a brand new c7 pulls up lol

That is a valid point. As much as I like what they did with new NISMO (except fir the wing delete) at the end of they day its a glorified holdover patch until the Z35 and that's really something to think about before pulling the trigger

Reading that really plays mental games for a guy like me. I was hoping to get a nismo at the end of this year but now dont want to be the idiot that buys a car right before a complete new version comes out and wish I would have waited :(

Decisions, decisions....

how is the resale value on these things in case I choose to get the new one?

Remember, usually the first 3 production years of most cars are horrible and riddled with problems. Also, if Nissan paired with Mercedes I'd def wait a couple years to buy one. See how things pan out for the car. The first year 350s had mad problems.

Also remember, you don't know what Z35 will look like or cost. I'm hoping it will look good, but you never know it could be a love or hate it kind of situation. Nissan knows this market well since they're the only one left in it and have been alone for some time now but again, looks are subjective so either way it can suck to wait or suck not to.

Yay! Got a call from the dealer. They got the Order Guide in AND secured an Open Allotment. Estimated 90 days for delivery (which is like the "generic number" they always give for special orders). Going to do the initial paperwork this afternoon.

I will see if I can somehow weasel a copy of the Order Guide or memorize some stuff off it when I get a look.

Ah... nevermind on the last part. Looked in another thread, and saw that koeppelnissan is on top of finding those things: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...im-levels.html

Narg did you get a chance to lower price or is always solid on orders? I am thinking about also doing an order but do not want to pay full price lol. Also I would love to see some colors in person before making a purchase.

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Price is always negotiable, until that contract is signed and money exchanges hands. :)

A lot of dealers will try to charge full price on direct factory ordering, but you don't have to agree to that and bargain for less. I bargained with the dealer last week when finding an Open Allotment, and going to do it again this afternoon.

Also note you can even do negotiations AFTER the car arrives... because you're gonna do another inspection of it to make sure nothing was left out, damaged during the voyage, or got a lemon.

Just keep a strong hawk eye on what you sign, and make sure NOTHING forces a final commitment.

Negotiate as if the car was actually on the lot.

So another question. Did you have to give a non refundable down payment due to it being a special order? Or is that a risk the dealer takes?

If you don't mind telling what your final price is?

I kind of want to see where I can get my price to go. I already have a few points planed on making when trying to lower the price haha.

I don't know about that. There is a reason why their sales are tanking

Even with a perfect FICO score, I can't imagine dealers out there who'd factory order a car without some kind of down payment. It at least shows you're serious and not just wasting their time. My second car was special ordered with a refundable down payment, so I know it's possible. But it really depends on the dealer and how long he thinks it will take to sell the car if you back out. On the other hand, the 2015 NISMO makes a good showroom car for the time it sits there... however each dealer thinks differently about unsold merchandise that just sits around for a few months before getting sold.

If you're forced to have your down payment non-refundable, it gives the dealer a lot more leverage. It also lets them sell it for slightly less to the other guy. All around win-win for them.

I'd fight for a refundable down payment. It's the principle. I don't like the dealer having win-win.



We haven't hammered the pre-arrival price yet. I won't say final, because there's always room for negotiation after it gets to America. Probably a few more days. There's also another dealer in the next state (about two hours away), who might secure an Open Allotment. If they can, it will really strengthen my hand.



Way I see it, our biggest setback is the car has low supply (the whole factory order thing). But there's also that old saying: "an object is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay."

All said and done, the ball is entirely in our court. We don't have to buy it from them, and we could always wait until the situation is better. Do you really have to be among the first people to get this car? It will be sold for at least another 12 months, so there's no need to rush. Within four to six, this car will be on dealer lots across the country.

Guys these cars depreciate so rapidly, as such be careful on buying new and barter for the lowest price possible. Go look at trade in values for a 2014, it's a 25% decrease over new MSRP.

that fact has been weighing heavily on my decision making. I mean I can get this car for close to dealer cost but even then I dont wont to take a big hit. I turned down a 2014 NISMO this weekend for actual dealer cost as they just wanted it gone. I would need to be in the mid 30's to make this happen. my time frame is after February so I just need to see how everything pans out between now and then

Dealer has confirmed their Open Allotment. Will be providing a refundable down payment. Dealer is confident that even if I back out, he can find another buyer (not sure if he honestly feels that way; or just a bluff). We went back and forth on pricing, but didn't come to a total agreement. I am not paying over or equal to the sticker price, but how much below is not set. Dealer wants to have the car physically on the lot before making final offer. I know it's a psychological ploy: with the car visibly in front of me, I'll want it more. We're looking at late September to early October for arrival.

He made an odd offer of cutting more dollars off, if I let him display the car in their showroom for a full week before taking it home. I suppose they want to show it off next to the GT-Rs, for word of mouth advertising.

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On a side note: trade in values for the outgoing model has plummeted. KBB showed a $2000 drop from last week. Nothing surprising really, but worth mentioning.

oo thats great info!

Funny you say that comment about him selling it. The dealer I went to last weekend had a sales guy tell me something he probably shouldn't have. Told me their last Nismo sat at the lot for 8 months before an employee bought it for a good discount.

I went there Sunday and was specific I wasn't planing on purchasing anything that day, so it seemed he had no motivation to try and sell me lol.

So hopefully when time comes for me to go and purchase mine (Hopefully mid Dec) I will use their old nismo sale as a helper haha.

I'd go for that if I was you. How much was he willing to let you do that? I would caveat that with nobody sits or drives it while its on display.

Decided not to go with the new Nismo. Today I placed an order for a 2015 Z51 Vette, pretty decked out with options and it came to 69,660 + tax. To me, the more I thought of it paying 50K for this Nismo just wasn't worth it and chipping in a little extra ( ok 20K) I get my dream car.

Nice. I would of got a base Z and slapped a TT on it. Put a few grand in the suspension, regeared, new clutch. Had a beast car.

Nice car! But also, the Nismo isn't a 50k car. Fully loaded sticker price is 47k, so you should be expecting ~45k at most. The Vette looks awesome, but is in a different price range (20k is a lot lol)

Good choice! With bolt ons and a tune guys are hitting low 11's.

I went to the Nissan site to build a Nismo and they are not showing the new leather interior just the old cloth, with tax it will be a 50K car at least early in early sales before relaxing IMO.

Be sure you can fit in the C7, I'm 6'4" and can't fit in it at all. I tried my best to squeeze in there to no avail.

I have to ask if you are dropping that kind of cash, why not go for GTR? Or is gtr just not your cup of tea?

Only reason I ask this is because when I see a corvette (even the new one) on the street. It is nice but I don't really care to have a second look. However when I see a GTR it is way more fascinating. I totally understand we all have our own opinions and I totally respect that. Just curious that is all.

Love the GTR, but that is way out of my price range. Now you are talking $110,000 or more. I'll stick with my 70k Vette, when it gets here:happydance::happydance:

The new Vette is gorgeous. Nice choice.
I grew up with a 63 Vette black with red interior. Vettes alway have a special place in my heart. My step dad said I could drive to my senior prom.... I already decided to skip prom and just drive all night but he sold it like 2 weeks before to a MLB player... lol

I also approve of your choice of the C7 Vette. I wouldn't have to think twice if I could afford one. GM hit it out of the park with this one.

But Slik did get a beast of a car and it comes with a full warranty!

Congrats Slik, enjoy that Vette :tup:

Very true!

Not trying to be a downer but your not that slick nick if you can't go to a dealership and negotiate a deal. Your building cars on the websites is a waist of time. Your new 70k vette just lost 20k the moment it left the dealership. Nothing wrong with general motors. Its just the price some pay for owning them.

for this month only there is a 10K dealer rebate on left over 2014 GTRs. members of my owners club are getting them nationwide for around 17-18K off which puts a brand new one at around 82K...thats a steal