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Nargrakhan 07-16-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed-Hed (Post 2898339)
The autoblog post says the manual feels more responsive in 2nd and 3rd.

They also estimate a $44K sales price. I'm guessing that's the manual transmission without a Tech Package. Guess we're just waiting until Nissan stops stalling and pulls the trigger...

aszyd 07-16-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed-Hed (Post 2898339)
The autoblog post says the manual feels more responsive in 2nd and 3rd.

With a 3.90 final drive, I would hope so.

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impressively good Bose stereo
They're kidding me right? Unless they changed the Bose for this new model, it sucks. My 2012 Focus' audio upgrade pacakge sounded so much better than the Bose in My Z.

Rooskey 07-17-2014 11:24 PM

Only speed upgrade is a different gear ratio, lol! I dont believe that the price is going to jump that much. Maybe for the first six months but that is it. Not enough thrills and spills to be asking $45k plus. If the Nismo had 390-400hp then they could sell these things for 48K all day long. Maybe it is due to the small platform. Who knows

Either way with all of the comfort features going into this new model I am sure that they are going to sell alot more Nismos. They do not advertise the Z very much to begin with. So when a new customer walks in and believes that he can have a Z with more performance (or so called per the salesman) these things are going to sell.

Long live the original Nismo Z. I bet there sells jump up for those tuner gear heads, looking to mod a car for the track and such.

Nargrakhan 07-18-2014 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 2899792)
Either way with all of the comfort features going into this new model I am sure that they are going to sell alot more Nismos. They do not advertise the Z very much to begin with. So when a new customer walks in and believes that he can have a Z with more performance (or so called per the salesman) these things are going to sell.

I wanna wait and see what the final price is, before theorizing how the 2015 sales will fare. In the US there's an ongoing horsepower war going on, with efforts to make 600+ more "affordable" than ever. The insane Dodge Hellcat is going for $60000 IIRC, which seems to be a "throwing down the gauntlet" kind of marketing scheme against the Stingray.

Sure... the NISMO will certainly be cheaper than $60K... but how much? Some people in the US might just save and/or loan for the extra money to upgrade for an American muscle on steroids.

Nargrakhan 07-18-2014 08:12 PM

I don't think I saw it mentioned here, but if it was, my bad.

The car is now listed on Nissan's FUTURE & CONCEPT VEHICLES section.

Nothing we haven't seen or already knew is on it though...

aszyd 07-18-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2899812)
I wanna wait and see what the final price is, before theorizing how the 2015 sales will fare. In the US there's an ongoing horsepower war going on, with efforts to make 600+ more "affordable" than ever. The insane Dodge Hellcat is going for $60000 IIRC, which seems to be a "throwing down the gauntlet" kind of marketing scheme against the Stingray.

Sure... the NISMO will certainly be cheaper than $60K... but how much? Some people in the US might just save and/or loan for the extra money to upgrade for an American muscle on steroids.

I don't care how much HP they throw at a Challenger, it will never be a C7. Hell, if I had Corvette money, I wouldn't cross shop a Challenger. Apples and oranges.

Rooskey 07-19-2014 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aszyd (Post 2900957)
I don't care how much HP they throw at a Challenger, it will never be a C7. Hell, if I had Corvette money, I wouldn't cross shop a Challenger. Apples and oranges.

From what I have heard the new challenger is having a hard time hooking the tires and is so heavy it has a hard time pulling up top too. I have not looked into it myself, but this is what is going around the drag strip. I actually like the looks of the car. Looks closer to the original resto's they are doing lately

NoLaKrewe 07-19-2014 12:40 AM

I'd like to see the Hell Cat do anything impressive that doesn't involve moving in a straight line.

I agree with what was said before. Comparing a Hell Cat to a C7 is apples to oranged. I would say the same about a Nismo to a Hell Cat.

Rusty 07-19-2014 03:58 AM

What does a Hellcat have to do with a Nismo? :icon14:

KrisL 07-23-2014 08:04 AM

http://www2.nissan.co.jp/IMAGES/Z/AR...0000480581.jpg

Bigger / High-Res Version

Nargrakhan 07-23-2014 02:19 PM

Awesome find KrisL. Thanks for posting it.

Ya know, the more I stare at the front of the new NISMO, the more I'm bothered by it. I'm thinking Nissan made the red stripe too thick. Maybe if it was thinner... or had a black line running down the middle. Probably just me. It's an easy enough modification, either way.

I'm also unnerved how NISMO is "cut and pasting" this body kit design on everything Nissan.

Maybe I'm just getting cold feet and second thoughts about buying this. Still another weeks to decide I suppose. Seems like Nissan is waiting until the last day of the month. -_-

KrisL 07-23-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2905790)
Awesome find KrisL. Thanks for posting it.

Credit to MC for posting these first. :tiphat:

7speed 07-23-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2905790)
Awesome find KrisL. Thanks for posting it.

Ya know, the more I stare at the front of the new NISMO, the more I'm bothered by it. I'm thinking Nissan made the red stripe too thick. Maybe if it was thinner... or had a black line running down the middle. Probably just me. It's an easy enough modification, either way.

I'm also unnerved how NISMO is "cut and pasting" this body kit design on everything Nissan.

Maybe I'm just getting cold feet and second thoughts about buying this. Still another weeks to decide I suppose. Seems like Nissan is waiting until the last day of the month. -_-


What if it was grey like 2014? (not shopped by me)

http://www.the370z.com/members/7spee...-photoshop.jpg

cv129 07-23-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2905790)
Awesome find KrisL.

I'm also unnerved how NISMO is "cut and pasting" this body kit design on everything Nissan.

I feel that way too. I do like the way it looks, but the idea that the same theme is being repeated across all nismo cars bother me a little.

aszyd 07-23-2014 07:40 PM

Meh, a good number of companies put similar front ends on all of their cars. It's just corporate design language.

shurik355 07-23-2014 07:47 PM

Im waiting for this bumper to put on my 40th Z. I like the front. Looks nice! a lot busier and more aggressive then any Z previous bumper. Plus I think the red lip will go nicely with my 40th anniversary scheme

Volk Z 07-23-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shurik355 (Post 2906068)
Im waiting for this bumper to put on my 40th Z. I like the front. Looks nice! a lot busier and more aggressive then any Z previous bumper. Plus I think the red lip will go nicely with my 40th anniversary scheme

I agree but without the side skirts the front bumper won't go with your stock sides. It may look OK but not complete.
Maybe someone can photo shop it for you.

Keep in mind when you order the bumper it will be unpainted so you will need to show the painter where to paint red and hope it comes out good.

MJB 07-24-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisL (Post 2905306)

Nissan Note Nismo? Really???

If Nissan is going to give every model the Nismo treatment, why not make each one unique looking? Other than GT-R or Z owners, most other Nissan owners or potential Nissan buyers don't even know what Nismo is. Nismo is all about performance, so why not keep it for Nissan's peformance line up? I doubt somebody who is in the market for a Note or Sentra or other cheap affordable Nissan car would want to pay a few thousand more for the Nismo upgrades. Whatever, my next car isn't going to be a Nissan anyways.

* Oh, for whats its worth, I think the new Nismo Z is ugly! 09-14 Nismo Z FTW!

Nargrakhan 07-24-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2906727)
If Nissan is going to give every model the Nismo treatment, why not make each one unique looking?

I thought each car -- because of it's engine and purpose -- would require a different shaped body to best harness it's potential... but I guess Nissan thinks not. The NISMO Note looks like a hatchback NISMO Z. :p



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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2906727)
Nissan Note Nismo? Really???

I doubt somebody who is in the market for a Note or Sentra or other cheap affordable Nissan car would want to pay a few thousand more for the Nismo upgrades.

What I'm really amused about, is that NISMO parts are waaaaaaay overcharged by Nissan. So when someone who did spend a little extra for his NISMO Note gets in an accident, he might be in for a little surprise when the shop gives him a parts quote (or the guy that rear ended him). :rofl2:

I guess Nissan really thinks there's people out there who need a garage full of NISMO. Pick up the kids in the NISMO Note. The wife drives the NISMO Sentra. You drive the NISMO 370Z to work and use the NISMO Juke for rainy days. The NISMO GT-R is for those secret nights when seeing the sexy mistress.

ruxtpin 07-24-2014 12:48 PM

I called the Auto Nation dealership where I purchased my 2012 370Z w/ Sports Package and asked about the new Nismo. Said they weren't expecting any until October at the earliest, but told me they could special order one if I wanted. No price was given, plus I don't wanna' deal with dealer mark-up on a new model. I went through the USAA Truecar buying service before and got a decent discount and would prefer to follow the same steps again.

Nargrakhan 07-24-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ruxtpin (Post 2906908)
I called the Auto Nation dealership where I purchased my 2012 370Z w/ Sports Package and asked about the new Nismo. Said they weren't expecting any until October at the earliest, but told me they could special order one if I wanted. No price was given, plus I don't wanna' deal with dealer mark-up on a new model. I went through the USAA Truecar buying service before and got a decent discount and would prefer to follow the same steps again.

I got burned when pre-ordering a car once. So I don't trust a dealer until they can provide two items:

1.) Order Guide / Reference Guide
2.) Open Allocation (sometimes called Allocation Number)

The Order Guide is what the dealer uses to actually order the car. It shows what options are available, how much it costs, etc. Most dealers won't actually let you look at the Order Guide, because it shows what they really pay, but they should be able to prove they have one.

The Open Allocation is basically the order number. It's what's used for status reports: can the dealership even get the car, what date will it be built at the factory, what's the car's status, how long until delivery, VIN, etc.

Any dealership can promise to preorder anything you want -- but only those who can pull it off will have an Order Guide and Open Allocation. At least that's been my experience.

ruxtpin 07-24-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2907035)
I got burned when pre-ordering a car once. So I don't trust a dealer until they can provide two items:

1.) Order Guide / Reference Guide
2.) Open Allocation (sometimes called Allocation Number)

The Order Guide is what the dealer uses to actually order the car. It shows what options are available, how much it costs, etc. Most dealers won't actually let you look at the Order Guide, because it shows what they really pay, but they should be able to prove they have one.

The Open Allocation is basically the order number. It's what's used for status reports: can the dealership even get the car, what date will it be built at the factory, what's the car's status, how long until delivery, VIN, etc.

Any dealership can promise to preorder anything you want -- but only those who can pull it off will have an Order Guide and Open Allocation. At least that's been my experience.

Yeah. I'm only exchanging emails right now, but I wouldn't give them a penny until I see an order guide, prices, and had an agreed upon final price. And even then, like you say, I'd want a guarantee in writing that they'd be able to be able to actually get the car.

Volk Z 07-24-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2906727)
Nissan Note Nismo? Really???

If Nissan is going to give every model the Nismo treatment, why not make each one unique looking? Other than GT-R or Z owners, most other Nissan owners or potential Nissan buyers don't even know what Nismo is. Nismo is all about performance, so why not keep it for Nissan's peformance line up? I doubt somebody who is in the market for a Note or Sentra or other cheap affordable Nissan car would want to pay a few thousand more for the Nismo upgrades. Whatever, my next car isn't going to be a Nissan anyways.

* Oh, for whats its worth, I think the new Nismo Z is ugly! 09-14 Nismo Z FTW!

I think I'm with you if toyota release that ft1 I will be done with Nissan as well. It's bad when my lightly modded 350z was more fun and more reliable then my 2013 nismo Z. I know they cheaped out on some parts and just made the car have way more blind spots.

shurik355 07-24-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2906186)
I agree but without the side skirts the front bumper won't go with your stock sides. It may look OK but not complete.
Maybe someone can photo shop it for you.

Keep in mind when you order the bumper it will be unpainted so you will need to show the painter where to paint red and hope it comes out good.

ohhhh yeahhh I got something in mind already for the sides. And there shouldn't be any problem with painting, cause I work in the body shop. :tup:

BOLIO 671 07-25-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2906727)
Nissan Note Nismo? Really???

If Nissan is going to give every model the Nismo treatment, why not make each one unique looking? Other than GT-R or Z owners, most other Nissan owners or potential Nissan buyers don't even know what Nismo is. Nismo is all about performance, so why not keep it for Nissan's peformance line up? I doubt somebody who is in the market for a Note or Sentra or other cheap affordable Nissan car would want to pay a few thousand more for the Nismo upgrades. Whatever, my next car isn't going to be a Nissan anyways.

:iagree:

At the rate that Nissan is going, Nismo will end up becoming the new base model...

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2906727)
* Oh, for whats its worth, I think the new Nismo Z is ugly! 09-14 Nismo Z FTW!

I couldn't have said it any better...:icon18:

Volk Z 07-25-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shurik355 (Post 2907245)
ohhhh yeahhh I got something in mind already for the sides. And there shouldn't be any problem with painting, cause I work in the body shop. :tup:

Well get that put on ASAP and post pics

G87z 07-27-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sigarooo (Post 2887387)
I photoshopped it black and red.


How about Magma red????
Thanks!

Nargrakhan 07-27-2014 10:05 PM

Heh... we are now in the LAST week of July. Let's see if this car actually goes on sale in the month Nissan said it would. :rolleyes:

KrisL 07-28-2014 08:24 AM

They've got 4 days left.

Magic 8 ball says: "Don't count on it" :shakes head:

KMO-II 07-28-2014 08:47 AM

the 2013 370 NISMO is a great model, as I purchased one Jan 15, 2013.. Got totaled on 17 April 2014. So i purchased a 2014 370z NISMO on 28 April. Having owned both, I like the 2014 better, It definately stands out amongst any other and previous models with the Charcoal accents. it took me a while to get used to those accents, but it quickly identifies what year/model it is, while there is very little distinguishing factors viewed by the naked eye in the previous models. Just my personal opinion of course from owning 2013 & 2014.
At the end of the day Any year of the NISMO is a head turner, im not too impressed by the 2015 version tho, it seems theyre taking the muscle, and hard core beauty away from the car , to a more luxury type sport look.

Shrooms nismo 07-28-2014 12:31 PM

I checked out the link for the new Nismo and just realized in the interior pics that all the brushed aluminum accents are now flat black.
Check it out for yourself.

Not cool if you ask me. I like all my brushed aluminum accents and the flat black looks cheap and plain.
Jmo

kenchan 07-28-2014 01:05 PM

At least they got the tires right this time ...RE11

Nargrakhan 07-30-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisL (Post 2910770)
They've got 4 days left.

Magic 8 ball says: "Don't count on it" :shakes head:

Ya know... I noticed that 370Z sales for 2014 have been noticably better than 2013. I wonder if Nissan is suddenly thinking of delaying the 2015 line, so they can give dealers more time to clear their lots of the 2014's.

In any case, they've got like 32 hours or so for them to make the July promise, so it looks like your Magic 8 Ball is gonna be right! :tup:

FuTuRe is Z 07-30-2014 02:12 PM

Makes no sense for them to be holding out on the Zs unless there are a lot of '14s left. If their sales are up why would you choke up sales by limiting supply?

My guess is they delay is due to the changes to the '15 Nismo and there being tons of '14 Nismos still unsold. Why would anyone buy a '14 when the '15 is more desirable?

Nargrakhan 07-30-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FuTuRe is Z (Post 2913760)
Makes no sense for them to be holding out on the Zs unless there are a lot of '14s left. If their sales are up why would you choke up sales by limiting supply?

I'm not proposing that anyone is intentionally limiting suppy, but I'm not sure if Nissan is still building new 2014's right now. Haven't tried to factory order a custom 2014, but I'd hazzard a guess that the assembly line should be pumping out the new model right now. Unless of course, Nissan really is going to delay the 2015 sale until late this year/early next year. In any case, if searching car dealers on the Internets is any indicator, there certainly isn't a shortage of new 2014 (or even 2013) 370Z out there.


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Originally Posted by FuTuRe is Z (Post 2913760)
Why would anyone buy a '14 when the '15 is more desirable?

Verdict is still out on that question. Not everyone likes the new body kit and/or prefers the old look. Also the new body kit is being "photoshopped" on every model of Nissan, so that's turning off people who aren't supportive of Nissan making all their NISMO look the same.

We'll see soon enough.

IMHO the 2015 NISMO's biggest sales point is having an automatic option. That opens the flood gates to a larger demographic that wouldn't (or couldn't) touch a stick. I personally think the 370Z market is oversatured and Nissan needs to get the next generation Z out, but who knows... maybe this is the gimmick Nissan needs to squeeze better numbers.

Davey 07-30-2014 03:02 PM

I honestly hope Nissan makes me regret not waiting for the '15, but I doubt they will.

shurik355 07-30-2014 06:32 PM

Any official word when the new one is coming? Still end of July?

Nargrakhan 07-30-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shurik355 (Post 2914008)
Any official word when the new one is coming? Still end of July?

There's only one day left in July, so if the dealership tell me they still don't have an Order Guide tomorrow afternoon, then the answer will be a big no. :shakes head:

shurik355 07-30-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2914049)
There's only one day left in July, so if the dealership tell me they still don't have an Order Guide tomorrow afternoon, then the answer will be a big no. :shakes head:

Yeahhhh if the answer still stays no then WTH???? what's the hold up????

shurik355 07-30-2014 10:32 PM

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...z-nismo-qs.jpg

Here is a sneak peek of how the front bumper looks on my 40th Z. Big thanks to CoolToy for getting this done!

I will get different sides and thinking about older rear nismo bumper.


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