2015 Nismo

Karanx7

MC, you've got some first world problems haha. I got the first Nismo GTR, but it's too rare to enjoy.

I wonder if the 3.9 final drive will make the manual faster than the auto.

MC

yeah that does sound pretty bad. didnt mean for it to come off like that but its sadly true to a degree though but some of it might be me overreacting a bit

im just really excited about the NISMO Z and interested in picking one up... just not sure its the right/best move. When I saw it in May I was a fan but didnt think much about it until seeing the black pics earlier this week and then the MSRP today. that base NISMO in 6MT could probably be bought for mid upper 30's OTD and thats intriguing as it would make a perfect car for me

I want to see some of you guys take delivery and get some time in the car though

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redstarcg

MC I agree with you on the GTR. If I had the funds to have it and get a 370 I would almost never take it out. Like you said above, its more of a trophy and a collectors car than anything due to it being #1. Even a dent in the door by some stupid **** would drive me insane hahaha.

I say get both. Keep gtr as a trophy and 370 to kill

cv129

MC, it will be interesting to post the same question on 6speedonline or The GTR board and see if you get the same answer.

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^^ if you plan on getting a 370 i guess now would be the perfect time to do it, my guess is you have a solid 2 years to play until the new Z hits the streets. And any later you will feel like an owner of a c6 when a brand new c7 pulls up lol

Nargrakhan

Yay! Got a call from the dealer. They got the Order Guide in AND secured an Open Allotment. Estimated 90 days for delivery (which is like the "generic number" they always give for special orders). Going to do the initial paperwork this afternoon.

I will see if I can somehow weasel a copy of the Order Guide or memorize some stuff off it when I get a look.

Ah... nevermind on the last part. Looked in another thread, and saw that koeppelnissan is on top of finding those things: MY 2015 370Z changes and trim levels

MC

That is a valid point. As much as I like what they did with new NISMO (except fir the wing delete) at the end of they day its a glorified holdover patch until the Z35 and that's really something to think about before pulling the trigger

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redstarcg

Reading that really plays mental games for a guy like me. I was hoping to get a nismo at the end of this year but now dont want to be the idiot that buys a car right before a complete new version comes out and wish I would have waited

Decisions, decisions....

how is the resale value on these things in case I choose to get the new one?

NoLaKrewe

Remember, usually the first 3 production years of most cars are horrible and riddled with problems. Also, if Nissan paired with Mercedes I'd def wait a couple years to buy one. See how things pan out for the car. The first year 350s had mad problems.

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binary0x01

Also remember, you don't know what Z35 will look like or cost. I'm hoping it will look good, but you never know it could be a love or hate it kind of situation. Nissan knows this market well since they're the only one left in it and have been alone for some time now but again, looks are subjective so either way it can suck to wait or suck not to.

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I don't know about that. There is a reason why their sales are tanking

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Nargrakhan

Even with a perfect FICO score, I can't imagine dealers out there who'd factory order a car without some kind of down payment. It at least shows you're serious and not just wasting their time. My second car was special ordered with a refundable down payment, so I know it's possible. But it really depends on the dealer and how long he thinks it will take to sell the car if you back out. On the other hand, the 2015 NISMO makes a good showroom car for the time it sits there... however each dealer thinks differently about unsold merchandise that just sits around for a few months before getting sold.

If you're forced to have your down payment non-refundable, it gives the dealer a lot more leverage. It also lets them sell it for slightly less to the other guy. All around win-win for them.

I'd fight for a refundable down payment. It's the principle. I don't like the dealer having win-win.



We haven't hammered the pre-arrival price yet. I won't say final, because there's always room for negotiation after it gets to America. Probably a few more days. There's also another dealer in the next state (about two hours away), who might secure an Open Allotment. If they can, it will really strengthen my hand.



Way I see it, our biggest setback is the car has low supply (the whole factory order thing). But there's also that old saying: "an object is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay."

All said and done, the ball is entirely in our court. We don't have to buy it from them, and we could always wait until the situation is better. Do you really have to be among the first people to get this car? It will be sold for at least another 12 months, so there's no need to rush. Within four to six, this car will be on dealer lots across the country.

redstarcg

Narg did you get a chance to lower price or is always solid on orders? I am thinking about also doing an order but do not want to pay full price lol. Also I would love to see some colors in person before making a purchase.

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Nargrakhan

Price is always negotiable, until that contract is signed and money exchanges hands.

A lot of dealers will try to charge full price on direct factory ordering, but you don't have to agree to that and bargain for less. I bargained with the dealer last week when finding an Open Allotment, and going to do it again this afternoon.

Also note you can even do negotiations AFTER the car arrives... because you're gonna do another inspection of it to make sure nothing was left out, damaged during the voyage, or got a lemon.

Just keep a strong hawk eye on what you sign, and make sure NOTHING forces a final commitment.

Negotiate as if the car was actually on the lot.

redstarcg

So another question. Did you have to give a non refundable down payment due to it being a special order? Or is that a risk the dealer takes?

If you don't mind telling what your final price is?

I kind of want to see where I can get my price to go. I already have a few points planed on making when trying to lower the price haha.