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Texasbeast 11-01-2013 05:03 PM

Nismo 370z or new Evo?
 
Don't be bias! Honestly stock off the lot witch is more powerful? Witch is faster? Witch is most fun to drive?

Z-Girl 12 11-01-2013 05:06 PM

I'd take the Evo if I was 18-21 hands down. Now as an old fart at 36 wouldn't dare.

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 2551325)
I'd take the Evo if I was 18-21 hands down. Now as an old fart at 36 wouldn't dare.

Why? Just curious!

forza370z 11-01-2013 06:10 PM

Evo gets more torque. So it's slightly faster straight line. You will feel it's faster too because of the turbo. But for the look, 370z breaks people's neck.

Driftomodachi 11-01-2013 06:19 PM

Do you have a brain and emotions? Why don't you drive both and decide for yourself.

/thread

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 2551442)
Do you have a brain and emotions? Why don't you drive both and decide for yourself.

/thread

Why be a ****? I'm asking here because some of y'all know more about the performance of these cars then me.

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2551424)
Evo gets more torque. So it's slightly faster straight line. You will feel it's faster too because of the turbo. But for the look, 370z breaks people's neck.

The nismo is super sexy no doubt!!

Driftomodachi 11-01-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbeast (Post 2551465)
Why be a ****? I'm asking here because some of y'all know more about the performance of these cars then me.

Have you driven both?

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 2551489)
Have you driven both?

No just the Z

critical 11-01-2013 07:24 PM

i see you have Halloween on the mind... lol

XiP 11-01-2013 07:26 PM

just be sure to do your research about both cars before you purchase so you won't regret it later, best of luck for whichever you choose

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2551513)
just be sure to do your research about both cars before you purchase so you won't regret it later, best of luck for whichever you choose

I'm prolly going to go with the nismo, I won't really be on the track with it but if I run my mouth to my buddies I wanna be able to back it up with performance!

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2551513)
just be sure to do your research about both cars before you purchase so you won't regret it later, best of luck for whichever you choose

And the nismo is super sexy an fun to drive!

BeemaaZ 11-01-2013 07:46 PM

"It's not the ride, it's the rider...! :roflpuke2: :driving:

http://www.the370z.com/members/beema...snotthecar.jpg

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeemaaZ (Post 2551549)
"It's not the ride, it's the rider...! :roflpuke2: :driving:

http://www.the370z.com/members/beema...snotthecar.jpg

I could make any car look good lmao jk

H2O_Doc 11-01-2013 08:02 PM

If I was a one car owner, I'd have to go Evo - a car I quite like. I have a 4Runner for Home Depot runs, so for me the decision to get a 370Z was quite easy. There is the aura of 18-23 year old maleness that the Evo carries (which isn't necessarily a reasons for not buying something). I almost added a 3rd car to our "stable" (a mustang), but I decided that I like a sports car (sensu stricto) and not a sports sedan. That is a pivotal preference that you need to tackle. Other than being small, fast, and foreign (kinda like Jackie Chan), there isn't a whole lot of common ground between the two.

Driftomodachi 11-01-2013 08:11 PM

It's "ryda" lol

u need to drive an evo so u will know. I drove an evo X mr. Didn't like the paddle shifters but that's all they come with

Texasbeast 11-01-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 2551565)
It's "ryda" lol

u need to drive an evo so u will know. I drove an evo X mr. Didn't like the paddle shifters but that's all they come with

I love the way the z looks, only reason I was interested in the Evo is cuz it's all wheel drive! My eagle talon was awd an it just seemed to launch so fast! I like the fact that when other cars where burning rubber I was already through the light!

H2O_Doc 11-01-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbeast (Post 2551630)
I love the way the z looks, only reason I was interested in the Evo is cuz it's all wheel drive! My eagle talon was awd an it just seemed to launch so fast! I like the fact that when other cars where burning rubber I was already through the light!

Sounds like your problem is that you stop at lights.

Jordo! 11-02-2013 01:08 AM

Ignoring the 4 doors vs two and all wheel drive vs two wheel drive, the main advantage of the Evo would be the potential for MUCH more power with a tune, given that it comes from the factory boosted.

On the other hand, I don't know how reliable they are relative to the Z...

Also... FWIW Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X MR vs Nissan 370Z - FastestLaps.com

Wonka2581 11-02-2013 03:19 AM

You cannot go wrong with the Z...:rolleyes:

karotZ 11-02-2013 04:01 AM

Both cars are fantastic.

The 370Z wins the look and sport compact feel - the tight cockpit and controls looks and feels amazing. The FR layout is great if you want a proper sports car, with the ability to let the rear slip occassionally. The looks is fantastic, it's the hard working middle class vehicle, people will start noticing you with smiles and thumbs up, it makes you stand out. Some even consider it "the poor man's Porsche" but I beg to differ. The VQ engine is very reliable and easy to moderate to maintain. I'd get at least with the sport package. For the power, it's pretty torquey (turkey? lol), but some may say not enough. What you have to realize is modding this car is different, some folks will say it's pricey but what you need to be aware of is that it's a car of it's own level, parts will not be cheap regardless if it's JDM or replica, it has that exclusitivity feel. It is also the first standard production vehicle to have a rev match feature for manual transmission available in sport package.

As for the Evo, it has tons of advantages as well - aside from the obvious 4 doors and a trunk, the All Wheel Drive system is extremely reliable and useful.
The turbo 4 banger at stock will feel okay, as for features, it's a rally car equipped with Recaro seats, fancy tach, brembo brakes and BBS wheels from factory. The aftermarket support for this vehicle is ridiculous, anything you can think of is most likely available. Despite what I mentioned, this vehicle will not feel high end, this is feed back from my buddies who have Evo 8 and Evo 10. One thing I like about Evos, with an cold air intake, exhaust and tune, this thing can eat the Z alive any day regardless if it's street or track, the ponnies goes instantly above 500HP with those ample mods. And if that doesn't impress you, my buddy's Evo 10 can eat Lambos which I think is amazing and retarded at the same time.

Carefully pick your poison, fantastic choices, completely different vehicles but both are amazing. Test drive both, for the Evo, Mistu has discontinued production I believe.

These are merely my opinions, good luck with your pick! :tiphat:

Texasbeast 11-02-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karotZ (Post 2551881)
Both cars are fantastic.

The 370Z wins the look and sport compact feel - the tight cockpit and controls looks and feels amazing. The FR layout is great if you want a proper sports car, with the ability to let the rear slip occassionally. The looks is fantastic, it's the hard working middle class vehicle, people will start noticing you with smiles and thumbs up, it makes you stand out. Some even consider it "the poor man's Porsche" but I beg to differ. The VQ engine is very reliable and easy to moderate to maintain. I'd get at least with the sport package. For the power, it's pretty torquey (turkey? lol), but some may say not enough. What you have to realize is modding this car is different, some folks will say it's pricey but what you need to be aware of is that it's a car of it's own level, parts will not be cheap regardless if it's JDM or replica, it has that exclusitivity feel. It is also the first standard production vehicle to have a rev match feature for manual transmission available in sport package.

As for the Evo, it has tons of advantages as well - aside from the obvious 4 doors and a trunk, the All Wheel Drive system is extremely reliable and useful.
The turbo 4 banger at stock will feel okay, as for features, it's a rally car equipped with Recaro seats, fancy tach, brembo brakes and BBS wheels from factory. The aftermarket support for this vehicle is ridiculous, anything you can think of is most likely available. Despite what I mentioned, this vehicle will not feel high end, this is feed back from my buddies who have Evo 8 and Evo 10. One thing I like about Evos, with an cold air intake, exhaust and tune, this thing can eat the Z alive any day regardless if it's street or track, the ponnies goes instantly above 500HP with those ample mods. And if that doesn't impress you, my buddy's Evo 10 can eat Lambos which I think is amazing and retarded at the same time.

Carefully pick your poison, fantastic choices, completely different vehicles but both are amazing. Test drive both, for the Evo, Mistu has discontinued production I believe.

These are merely my opinions, good luck with your pick! :tiphat:



Wow I had no idea the Evo had that much potential, I still have to go with the z I wanted one before they were even 370s and I want it for the looks lol

Tazicon 11-02-2013 11:33 AM

If you want a fast car that takes well to mods the EVO is the way to go. If you want a car with class go with a Z. Just understand, most people who buy Z's dont do so because they think they are a fast car. Most people buy them for the handling as well as a decent amount of giddy up. They are very well balanced cars.

If you buy a Z just understand it's going to take a good chunk of change if you decide it's not fast enough for you. Do lots of research on here first. Not just what people are saying in this thread. I hate to see people buy a Z and then be dissapointed. You have to have a love for a 2 seat RWD car to properly appreciate a Z.

forza370z 11-02-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karotZ (Post 2551881)
Both cars are fantastic.

The 370Z wins the look and sport compact feel - the tight cockpit and controls looks and feels amazing. The FR layout is great if you want a proper sports car, with the ability to let the rear slip occassionally. The looks is fantastic, it's the hard working middle class vehicle, people will start noticing you with smiles and thumbs up, it makes you stand out. Some even consider it "the poor man's Porsche" but I beg to differ. The VQ engine is very reliable and easy to moderate to maintain. I'd get at least with the sport package. For the power, it's pretty torquey (turkey? lol), but some may say not enough. What you have to realize is modding this car is different, some folks will say it's pricey but what you need to be aware of is that it's a car of it's own level, parts will not be cheap regardless if it's JDM or replica, it has that exclusitivity feel. It is also the first standard production vehicle to have a rev match feature for manual transmission available in sport package.

As for the Evo, it has tons of advantages as well - aside from the obvious 4 doors and a trunk, the All Wheel Drive system is extremely reliable and useful.
The turbo 4 banger at stock will feel okay, as for features, it's a rally car equipped with Recaro seats, fancy tach, brembo brakes and BBS wheels from factory. The aftermarket support for this vehicle is ridiculous, anything you can think of is most likely available. Despite what I mentioned, this vehicle will not feel high end, this is feed back from my buddies who have Evo 8 and Evo 10. One thing I like about Evos, with an cold air intake, exhaust and tune, this thing can eat the Z alive any day regardless if it's street or track, the ponnies goes instantly above 500HP with those ample mods. And if that doesn't impress you, my buddy's Evo 10 can eat Lambos which I think is amazing and retarded at the same time.

Carefully pick your poison, fantastic choices, completely different vehicles but both are amazing. Test drive both, for the Evo, Mistu has discontinued production I believe.

These are merely my opinions, good luck with your pick! :tiphat:

Well said. Except mods on both cars would be equally expensive after 500 whp because that requires rebuild the motor etc. But anything below that threshold, Evo is much easier to gain power due to the fact of the FI out of the box.

And yes Evo might be faster in the straight line. But the Z would be more fun taking corners. AWD just don't like drift as much as a RWD.;)

Texasbeast 11-02-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 2552131)
If you want a fast car that takes well to mods the EVO is the way to go. If you want a car with class go with a Z. Just understand, most people who buy Z's dont do so because they think they are a fast car. Most people buy them for the handling as well as a decent amount of giddy up. They are very well balanced cars.

If you buy a Z just understand it's going to take a good chunk of change if you decide it's not fast enough for you. Do lots of research on here first. Not just what people are saying in this thread. I hate to see people buy a Z and then be dissapointed. You have to have a love for a 2 seat RWD car to properly appreciate a Z.

I'm going with the z I might possibly wait a year though I heard the 2015 may come with a turbo!

Chuck33079 11-02-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbeast (Post 2552263)
I'm going with the z I might possibly wait a year though I heard the 2015 may come with a turbo!

Nothing concrete has been released about the 2015 yet, regardless of what you have heard.

And you should buy the Z simply because Mitsus break like it's their job.

karotZ 11-02-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2552267)
Nothing concrete has been released about the 2015 yet, regardless of what you have heard.

And you should buy the Z simply because Mitsus break like it's their job.

This too I forgot to mention, they break more often hence why folks get an WRX STI instead.

Joepro 11-02-2013 10:45 PM

I had this same debate...A few reasons I went with the Z

1. Nissan wins the reliability edge, regardless of our common issues, read around the net, horsepower is no fun when your car is falling apart...IMO
2. Coupes just scream sports car, and the Z is more rare.
3. Feels more like a sports car IMO
4. Interior quality and design I give the edge to the Z
5. RWD is more fun to goof off with, I am not a racer, its an enthusiast car.
6. I bought mine used and for under 40k I will have a fully modded 500 whp car that will take care of 90% of other street cars.
I still like the EVO, but its not all about the HP for me, which made the Z my decision.

Tempestz 11-02-2013 11:20 PM

My opinion is looks wise, 370,
driving wise, do you like to your car? or do you like the car to drive for you? I personally like to drive my cars, hence why i chose the 370 over the EVO

Texasbeast 11-03-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2553021)
I had this same debate...A few reasons I went with the Z

1. Nissan wins the reliability edge, regardless of our common issues, read around the net, horsepower is no fun when your car is falling apart...IMO
2. Coupes just scream sports car, and the Z is more rare.
3. Feels more like a sports car IMO
4. Interior quality and design I give the edge to the Z
5. RWD is more fun to goof off with, I am not a racer, its an enthusiast car.
6. I bought mine used and for under 40k I will have a fully modded 500 whp car that will take care of 90% of other street cars.
I still like the EVO, but its not all about the HP for me, which made the Z my decision.



How much does it cost to fully mod out to 500 hp? An whats the torque at when you do that? I'm new to all this I've always had mud trucks!

Joepro 11-03-2013 08:43 AM

Gtm kits run from around 6.5k and up, youll need some supporting mods as well...what gets most people is labor, I work at a shop and I am quite handy, so I do all my own work. If you can do the install yourself with supporting mods(gauges oil cooler etc) You can get it done under the 10k mark assuming you buy a gtm kit- someone is actually selling a used one on the forums for 2k which is almost unbelievable, but hey that will drive the cost down! This is why the evo is so much more suited for hp junkies.

My plan is SC kit , so looking right around 500 whp give or take depending on the tuner and high 300's for tq, turbos are a different animal, will get you that tq into the 400s like snap!

This car is not cheap to mod, but rewarding IMO, I bought my Z used for 26k with 10k miles, so buying new will drive your cost much higher than mine.

check out these links:

https://www.gtmotorsports.com/search...keep_https=yes
https://www.gtmotorsports.com/produc...cat=258&page=1

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KingJoseph 11-04-2013 07:37 AM

Quick two cents:

I have a Nismo and my ex-gf had an Evo, which I drove regularly. It was a fun car - it handled great, it was REALLY quick, and it looked awesome.

That said, the interior was that of the cheapest imaginable econobox. It was so horrible for a car that expensive. Not that the Nismo is ultralux, but the Evo is far worse.

Also, the lack of a sixth gear (on the manual GSR) made it a terrible car for driving on the freeway. Even going 60-70, the thing was buzzing at a moderately high RPM; it was thus twitchy and the noise was annoying for long trips.

The AWD is nice if you live somewhere with inclement weather, but do you really want to take your $40k car out in the snow with other people sliding around anyway?

Those are the things I'd consider if weighing the Evo vs. the Nismo. The Nismo feels a lot more like an upscale sports car while the Evo feels like what it is - a bottom of the line economy sedan with upgraded drivetrain and suspension.

Chuck33079 11-04-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2554235)
That said, the interior was that of the cheapest imaginable econobox. It was so horrible for a car that expensive. Not that the Nismo is ultralux, but the Evo is far worse.

the Evo feels like what it is - a bottom of the line economy sedan with upgraded drivetrain and suspension.

Yep. the inside is rattling Fisher-Price junk. The drivetrain is fantastic, but the rest of the car is still a Mitsubishi. :rofl2:

fuct 11-04-2013 10:13 AM

my nismo interior rattles and creaks..... :icon14:

chii370 11-04-2013 04:52 PM

have you even sat in an EVO? dear god its a baren wasteland, not to mention everything looks AND feels like its about to break. Funny thing about that....... IT WILL. the evo is renown for being an unreliable maintenance headache, especially when you start pissing around with aftermarket stuff. Its about in the same line as an RX8. look forward to replacing things you should never need to replace before 100k miles. personally? STI. same price, better quality. might not be as fast, but it will last 10X longer, and it even looks better. And you get this thing called an INTERIOR!!! :O with.... USEFUL THINGS!!!! :O also, the STI wont sound like a turd. EVO has a worse engine noise than a stock 370Z lol..... and thats bad.


If your 12 - EVO
If you have a brain but also no need for a USEFUL car - 370Z
then after you buy the Z, buy an STI anyway for winter :P

L33T Z34 11-04-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbeast (Post 2551630)
I love the way the z looks, only reason I was interested in the Evo is cuz it's all wheel drive! My eagle talon was awd an it just seemed to launch so fast! I like the fact that when other cars where burning rubber I was already through the light!

FOUR THIRDY gears, a real rear LSD, rear suspension bushings/mods and sticky summer tires will damn near give u that street AWD launch you're look'n for.

Z_Monzter 11-08-2013 12:33 PM

I used to have a 350Z

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...PaintJob25.jpg

The Evo is better performer than the Z, however is way too ugly for me. I can't stand the idea of a four door sports car. If I had to have the extra doors I personally like the STi better than the Evo.

I was in the market for a Nismo 370z until two months ago. I'm 34yrs old and I wanted more HP than what the Z comes stock. I did the math and in order to get what I wanted I would have to spend around 20k on the Z on top of the car cost.

I ended up buying a brand new 2013 Corvette Gand Sport. This car is a monster out of the box. I love it, I never look back. The Vette is on a hole different level than the Z hands down.

Don't get me wrongthe Nismo Z is a great performer and if I had to chose between the Evo and the Nismo, I would pick the Nismo without hesitation.
:tup:


http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...eda/Sg_800.jpg

MacLean 11-13-2013 07:59 AM

Evo vs. Nismo. As everyone has already stated the Nismo without a question and hands down.

If you are thinking about the Evo, then why not go with the STI? I would take the STI over the EVO, but still go with the Nismo since it is a two door sports car. You will have less headaches/problems with the Nismo than the Evo or STI.

Chuck33079 11-13-2013 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 2566955)
If you are thinking about the Evo, then why not go with the STI? I would take the STI over the EVO, but still go with the Nismo since it is a two door sports car. You will have less headaches/problems with the Nismo than the Evo or STI.

Agreed with everything but the bit about having more problems with a STi. I never had a single issue with mine over 75k miles, and it was modded from 5k miles on. The next owner promptly blew it up, but it never gave me any issues.


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