Does the Nismo 370z handle better than the 370z sport package?

cv129 · 09-21-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

honestly? the ones that come on the nismo are already pretty bad *** and it has several adjustable suspension parts. Unless your some kind of track guru or aspiring amature/future professional race car driver there is absolutely 100% ZERO reason to quote "upgrade" (slight) to any other setup. the only reason I can see is....... just to brag to other people what suspension you have. Dont get it unless you need it, and in this case you really dont, especially if all you do is daily drive the car. Even on big power Z's you only need to fiddle with engine internals, clutch, and POSSIBLY getting rid of that useless viscous rear LSD. no one in there right mind would say "boy I wish my nismo had a stiffer suspension" unless like i said..... bragging rights.

Don't think any of us really "need" a Z here, so we may as well all drive Prius? Lol.

chii370 · 09-21-2013, 11:59 AM

i was waiting for someone to make that between the lines comment, actually thought of the one you just said in my head as I was typing my response. not needing a specific part of the car doesnt nullify having the car in the first place. In this case having a very stiff race suspension actually makes the car WORSE in every single aspect except one. racing it. and if your not going to race it, you dont NEED it because your in fact making your car worse. I personally dont like feeling like my spine is bolted to the chassis, have to creep over speed bumps sideways at .00001 mph "same for RR tracks" and have a misserable headache from bouncing around in the car after a 2 hour drive. I had those retarded ideas when I was 16, and have since grown out of it.

One could argue that my exhaust wasnt "needed" well no, ima squash that stupid comment before it starts. I made the car BETTER than it was before because it sounded like a prius. And there are no negatives to it, it in no way made the car worse than it was before no matter what im doing with it. NEED when i said it didnt imply a necessity to life as you literally took it, it was meant in the context of usefulness and pros/cons.

cv129 · 09-21-2013, 03:40 PM

^i know what you meant, just couldn't resist, haha my bad

chii370 · 09-22-2013, 12:11 PM

mean..... you know im easy to get spun up lol

ubs234 · 09-23-2013, 03:35 PM

Braking and handling are better on the 370z sports package. Nismo looks way better doe.

Cmike2780 · 09-23-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ubs234

Braking and handling are better on the 370z sports package. Nismo looks way better doe.

They're the same brakes. Nismo looks are subjective.

ubs234 · 09-23-2013, 05:21 PM

Same brakes, but according to all the major car reviews the sports package stops in 102 feet and the NImso in 120feet. Nismo weighs more remember

chii370 · 09-24-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ubs234

Same brakes, but according to all the major car reviews the sports package stops in 102 feet and the NImso in 120feet. Nismo weighs more remember

HAHAHAHA thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard. Yes it weighs more.....by like 60 lbs. And with the upgraded break lines and fluid, not to mention 20mm wider tires i seriously doubt the base/sport stops TWENTY FEET shorter. There is also tests saying the sports faster too. Well thats been proven time and time again to not be true. Thats like saying a wrx is faster than a wrx sti. Its what non sti owners argue.

cv129 · 09-24-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

HAHAHAHA thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard. Yes it weighs more.....by like 60 lbs. And with the upgraded break lines and fluid, not to mention 20mm wider tires i seriously doubt the base/sport stops TWENTY FEET shorter. There is also tests saying the sports faster too. Well thats been proven time and time again to not be true. Thats like saying a wrx is faster than a wrx sti. Its what non sti owners argue.

Lets be mature and check the facts before we all sound like BMW owners now lol. Facts are facts no matter how much I dislike that.

Edmunds did the test side by side, braking distance gap is less than the other magazine but its the same picture.

Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring

Partly it's the front bumper design resulting in lack of cooling vs the normal bumper. Nissan sacrificed performance for asthetic reason mostly. It is an unacceptable disadvantage vs the sport pkg cars. That's a fact.

It's a dead horse that's been beaten

Cmike2780 · 09-24-2013, 09:46 AM

Is it me or are Nismo owners starting to sound like BMW owners?

Chuck33079 · 09-24-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Is it me or are Nismo owners starting to sound like BMW owners?

Lol. Just some of them.

Some of the braking distance discrepancy may be due to the stiffer Nismo suspension. If it's too stiff to allow weight to transfer around, you may see a longer braking distance. Lines and fluid are more for feel and repeatability, and they do very little in terms of stopping distance. The front tires are the same size as the Sport, and almost all braking is done by the front of the car. It's also on different tires, so it's hard to compare apples to apples.

chii370 · 09-24-2013, 10:02 AM

Actually... the nismo is 20mm wider in front and back isnt it? 265 f 285r opposed to 245 265? And yeah i guess ur right, but it seems to push weight fwd just fine, its not THAT stiff. Dif tires to........ so who knows. Also the nismo comes with nismo break pads. If u opted for it. But u can get them on the sport. I have them, maybe thats why i notice a difference?

Chuck33079 · 09-24-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

Actually... the nismo is 20mm wider in front and back isnt it? 265 f 285r opposed to 245 265? And yeah i guess ur right, but it seems to push weight fwd just fine, its not THAT stiff. Dif tires to........ so who knows.

I just swapped from stock sport tires to Nismo wheels and tires. The front is 245 on both. The wheel itself is wider on the Nismo, but the tire is the same size as sport. Sport rears are 275s, so only a 10mm difference there as well.

chii370 · 09-24-2013, 10:12 AM

Oh cool, didnt know that.

theDreamer · 09-24-2013, 10:21 AM

Tires are going to be a large factor in handling & stopping, and on the notion that the sport is faster/slower.
It has been shown both are faster, it comes down to what "test" is used. Honestly the Nismo was a let down, they threw on some parts and hoped it sold with no real thought on design and performance. Many owners I know of the Nismo upgrade the tires and see a world of difference, so again it came down to the accountants on the Z picking parts.

09-21-2013, 11:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	i was waiting for someone to make that between the lines comment, actually thought of the one you just said in my head as I was typing my response. not needing a specific part of the car doesnt nullify having the car in the first place. In this case having a very stiff race suspension actually makes the car WORSE in every single aspect except one. racing it. and if your not going to race it, you dont NEED it because your in fact making your car worse. I personally dont like feeling like my spine is bolted to the chassis, have to creep over speed bumps sideways at .00001 mph "same for RR tracks" and have a misserable headache from bouncing around in the car after a 2 hour drive. I had those retarded ideas when I was 16, and have since grown out of it. One could argue that my exhaust wasnt "needed" well no, ima squash that stupid comment before it starts. I made the car BETTER than it was before because it sounded like a prius. And there are no negatives to it, it in no way made the car worse than it was before no matter what im doing with it. NEED when i said it didnt imply a necessity to life as you literally took it, it was meant in the context of usefulness and pros/cons. luigi90210 and ubs234 like this.

09-24-2013, 09:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Is it me or are Nismo owners starting to sound like BMW owners? DEpointfive0, ubs234 and Smashley like this. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

09-24-2013, 10:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	Actually... the nismo is 20mm wider in front and back isnt it? 265 f 285r opposed to 245 265? And yeah i guess ur right, but it seems to push weight fwd just fine, its not THAT stiff. Dif tires to........ so who knows. Also the nismo comes with nismo break pads. If u opted for it. But u can get them on the sport. I have them, maybe thats why i notice a difference? Last edited by chii370; 09-24-2013 at 10:11 AM.

09-24-2013, 10:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Tires are going to be a large factor in handling & stopping, and on the notion that the sport is faster/slower. It has been shown both are faster, it comes down to what "test" is used. Honestly the Nismo was a let down, they threw on some parts and hoped it sold with no real thought on design and performance. Many owners I know of the Nismo upgrade the tires and see a world of difference, so again it came down to the accountants on the Z picking parts. ubs234 likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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09-21-2013, 03:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,263 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	^i know what you meant, just couldn't resist, haha my bad

09-22-2013, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	mean..... you know im easy to get spun up lol

09-23-2013, 03:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	Braking and handling are better on the 370z sports package. Nismo looks way better doe.

09-23-2013, 05:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	Same brakes, but according to all the major car reviews the sports package stops in 102 feet and the NImso in 120feet. Nismo weighs more remember

09-24-2013, 10:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	Oh cool, didnt know that.