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burning oil
Anyone know if these cars burn oil?
My car started to act funny in low gears when cold. Started making crazy noises from the engine. I noticed when hitting the breaks, the oil light would come on for a sec. That right there told me the oil has to be low, so I checked it. Sure enough, it was 3 freaking quarts low. I rely on my friend who is the mechanic to enter in the computer when to bring the car in for an oil change. It did seem like it was a long time, so I checked the computer and it had no entry. So I have no idea how long its been. But I dont think its been longer then 10k miles. I have never had a car eat up 3 quarts in my life! |
Oil consumption has been brought up several times as being an issue some see it some don’t. I have also read that the light for oil doesn’t mean you’re low but your too late. All lights on, on the dash under hard breaking means your low in brake fluid I believe. Please do correct me if I’m wrong.
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I bet I was close to a serious problem! |
Check it as often as you get gas. Every high performance car I've ever had has burnt a little oil. Not much, but over 10k miles I'll bet it would have been bad. Keep your own maintenance records. Have Blackstone Labs do an oil analysis on the oil that comes out when you change it Saturday, and then every other oil change after that.
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I would not wait 10K miles between oil changes.
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I keep an Excel spreadsheet of maintenance for my car. It's pretty handy.
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I had a similar scare. I am used to my truck not burning a drop of oil. Never have to check it and it never drops a bit on the dipstick. When I first got this car I decided one day that maybe I should check the oil and it was just barely on the dipstick. Nonetheless I check it every fillup if not every second fill up.
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aside from when I took the 13 down to VA beach ive never once "checked" the oil. Until now. It was fine when I got it, fine when I drove it to VA beach, and is fine now with not so much as a drop difference. So maybe this is an issue with a faulty part, not all Z's. my 09 never lost a drop ether and I had that car for 30k miles.
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In an automatic transmission vehicle the pedal on the left of the gas pedal is called the "brake" pedal. Applying this pedal will result in a decrease of speed. In a manual transmission vehicle the pedal between the gas pedal on the right and the clutch pedal on the left is also referred to as the "brake" pedal. It is somewhat confusing but the "brake" pedal is in the middle. Same concept applies to this pedal as when used in an automatic transmission.
Running oil for 10,000 miles results in $hit "breaking." Good luck with your braken motor. |
Am I the only one here uses the mobile 1 premium oil instead of Ester or Redline synthetic oil?:ugh2:
I learned this since I owned my 06 G35 coupe. Both Infiniti and Nissan techs didn't recommend me to use synthetic oil on the VQ engine. Because our motor eats oil like crazy. I'd rather top it off more frequently then being regret too late. A couple of my friends used synthetic oil and didn't check it for more then 8k miles then they got the CEL due to the oil being low. So if you do use synthetic oil, you need to check the oil level frequently like Chuck suggested. |
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I am a very busy person. I am an engineer during the day and run my JiuJitsu academy at night. I dont have time to remind myself when this, when that.. I use my phone to remind me of appointments, and the car cost me around 40K. The Car came with this nifty computer that is supposed to warn you when you need to change the oil... If you read anything you would know that my mechanic said he entered in the information that was supposed to warn me to change the oil. He evidently didnt. I have already said I have never had a car burn oil like this, ever!! I have run cars to 10k without an oil change.. that was when I was much younger.. but they never burned a drop.. So stop being an A$$ which is so easy to do on the other side of a computer. and by the way.. the car runs fine.. sounds fine.. he is going to check it more on saturday.. |
Quit being a whiny bitch. You screwed up - be a man, accept it, learn from it, move on.
Are you too busy to do proper maintenance on your gym equipment? Checking the oil periodically is just part of using ANY car; it might not be using oil today but that can change in a heartbeat. If you ran it so low on oil that it started making noises, you've done some damage. You may be lucky and the damage is not too bad. |
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Check your damn fluids, people. |
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You really can't expect to come on a car forum, complain about missing extremely simple maintenance steps, and expect everyone to pat you on the back.....the car's maintenance computer is a suggestion, nothing more.. |
There is a technical service bulletin on this issue. I had the same problem and did an oil consumption test. The short block was then replaced by the dealership under warranty.
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Mine uses about a quart every 3k miles. I fill it to the top line when I change oil and when I change my oil at 3K miles it's at the low line. And an oil analysis each time shows that everything is ok.
10K miles, I'd love to see an oil analysis of that oil. |
It's most likely going ot be full of bearing material. It was diluted with three quarts of fresh oil, so I don't know what will show up on the UOA. My guess would be it's time to set aside a shortblock fund and hope the VVEL isn't gummed up.
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good to hear others are burning the same amount. |
I memorize exactly when i got an oil change and regular keep a mental tab of when my oil change is coming up. For example i know now i need a change in 900 miles off the top of my head. I'll prob skip the dealer this time and do it myself because dealerships are useless, i suspect they don't replace all the plastic rivets out of laziness when they put the undertray back on.
Mine burns roughly 1 qrt every few thousand miles, so i bought a 5 qrt oil container and i put some oil in it when i see that's is close to low. There was a point where i checked it once and was shocked to see it below the low mark now i keep an eye on it 10K is def to far for an oil change brah! Get that sucker changed |
Mine burns a little oil as well. I switched to 0w-40 and I only burn a little less then half a qt between oil changes.
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I forgot to mention, I was talking to the mechanics at UPREV last year and they were telling me with how high our compression is, combined with high oil temps, 5w-30 thins out to much and thus we get more blow-by. I noticed when I was using Mobil 1 5w-30, I was losing about a qt every oil change. Switched to 0w-40, which doesn't thin out as much at operation temp compared to 30, which I seen a nice improvement .
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I want to know too.. Funny how some are very helpful and other just want to rub sh!t in. I never wanted anyone to pat me on the back. I know its my fault and I take full responsibility. I also dont know if it was 10k miles.. I am guessing. I travel so much, work a lot of hours.. it just kept slipping my mind. I am all over the place. But I do know it wont happen again. If my car is screwed, I will just buy another one.. but I hope i dont have to go that route. |
Blackstone Labs.
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Here's a helpful tip: MAINTENANCE: The maintenance intervals of the following items can be set or reset for the reminders. . ENGINE OIL Select this submenu to set or reset the distance for changing the engine oil. . OIL FILTER Select this submenu to set or reset the distance for replacing the oil filter. . TIRE Select this submenu to set or reset the distance for replacing tires. . OTHER Select this submenu and set or reset the distance for replacing items other than the engine oil, oil filter and tires. You can setup your car (Vehicle Information Display) to tell you when your due for your next oil change. Only takes a couple of minutes and can save you a lot of problems later. Complete information can be found on pages 2-15 through 2-22 of your owners manual. |
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Thanks!! My good friend, jiuJitsu student is my mechanic at Nissan. He told me he programmed it to warn me. When I checked my oil, I went into the computer and it was blank. He has programmed it before, but it was as if the computer had no information at all. If the battery is removed does this get cleared? Anyway, I wont rely on that anymore. I will always check when I gas up and I will start writing down the miles. |
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If it's not in some sort of NVRAM, I'd think that the setpoints would revert to a set of factory defaults instead of nothing. The current values would probably reset to zero if not in NVRAM. Working on another project or I'd look it up (should be in FSM somewhere). |
It does, when I had work done on my audio system everything was reset, from the clock to the rev light.
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so after that post made me paranoid, I went directly to the car and checked the oil. I last changed it myself a couple thousand miles ago and as I expected it was EXACTLY where it should be. Hasn't lost even a single drop. its NOT normal for any car to burn oil, ever, no exceptions. Thats just what people say that dont want to accept their car has a minor problem. Even on my old 02 WRX people would say "oh thats normal" when it leaks oil. NO ITS ******* NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a design flaw in the subarus case in the head gaskets, easily fixed and now it doesnt leak/burn a drop. If your car burns or leaks oil ITS A PROBLEM. Hell even my first cars built boss 302 "did myself" didnt burn oil and thats a 45 year old engine, so the high performance statement isnt an excuse, its avoidance. stop being lazy. Im an engineer, who goes to school time as well even on weekends and I still have time to lift up the hood and pull a dip stick for 30 seconds, because I care about the condition of my car. Dont rely on on a reminder from the dash computer, thats just proof you dont give 2 ***** about the car. Why not just hire your own personal mechanic to sleep in the garage with the car 24/7, **** it.... just let him drive it too so you dont have to "bother" with it.
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Any car ever? How about a RX8?
In all seriousness, a lot of oil consumption is blowby, not the engine burning oil. It's not ideal, but its perfectly normal and a certain amount is to be expected. |
lol the RX7 and 8 are a special exception. Thats just again... a design issue. nothing you can do about a stupid idea. Do you without firing up google even know what blowby is? no its NOT ******* NORMAL. its a clear indication of worn or improperly sealed/sized piston rings and if thats "normal" for a VQ engine that simply implies an obvious design flaw. with the correct tollerances, correct viscosity oil, good seals and properly sized rings and pistons a car will NOT have blowby. at least not in any measurable amount, ESPECIALLY QUARTS of oil per X time. we are talking fuckin teaspoons of oil over thousands of miles on a properly designed and maintained engine. Hate to bring up the same example again, but my 45 year old 302 is obviously inferior quality and technology compared to a modern engine, and aside from oil changes ive NEVER had to put oil in it. If your losing QUARTS of oil even over the span of a year, somethings wrong. I never added oil to my 09 once ether in its 40k miles aside from changes....... not sure how much more clear cut the answer can get.
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Ok dude, I'm not going to argue with you. Every car maker out there has an acceptable spec for oil consumption. Every. Single. One. That doesn't mean something is wrong. These engines aren't handbuilt. Theres going to be some variance between motors. You've got two that don't burn a drop. Thats great.
You can't compare your old built motor to a production motor. I'm sure you built it with much tighter specs than it originally came with. |
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I drive my car hard sometimes,, up and down the canyon here near where I live... I am sure, if you drive it 100+MPH often it will burn something. |
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I think you need to read this and STFU! Auto Doctor: Car engines burn oil faster than ever |
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