Traction Control Through Third Gear

tlr3715 · 08-25-2013, 11:34 PM

I've noticed whenever I mash on the gas in first, second, or third the traction control light goes on. I have a hard time believing the stock 350hp engine has enough power to break the tires free going 75MPH in third gear. Is this due to poor tires, or is it due to the stiffer suspension of the Nismo?

Has anyone used the stock Yokohama Advan sport tires on the track, and if so what do you think of them?

ka24king · 08-25-2013, 11:38 PM

I know what your talking about I've noticed this also and I'm not sure I think it just gets a tiny bit of slip from popping off the clutch or something because I agree I doubt that our cars are that powerful

Elan · 08-26-2013, 02:13 AM

Yeah it VDC likes to cut the power for no reason...so overbearing at times. If I am going to get on it, VDC is off.

tturbo370z · 08-26-2013, 02:22 AM

What is the tread like on your tires? I recall constantly taking my car to he dealer for vdc issues and the dealer told there was nothing wrong. It was so bad to the point u couldn't even drive the car with the VDC on it was that annoying. A friend of mine told me to check the wear on my tires as when they wear the circumference is smaller and the computer sees it as slipping so vdc engages. I though he was full of shite but the instant I replaced the tires the problem was gone. Just a thought.

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tturbo370z

What is the tread like on your tires? I recall constantly taking my car to he dealer for vdc issues and the dealer told there was nothing wrong. It was so bad to the point u couldn't even drive the car with the VDC on it was that annoying. A friend of mine told me to check the wear on my tires as when they wear the circumference is smaller and the computer sees it as slipping so vdc engages. I though he was full of shite but the instant I replaced the tires the problem was gone. Just a thought.

That's a load of shít.
Did you replace your tires with the same tires?

G37sHKS · 08-26-2013, 03:57 AM

I was with 460 WHP Twin turbo and I had nice traction on 2nd gear.

Please replace your tires.

Rusty · 08-26-2013, 04:31 AM

Under the right conditions. My VDC will pop on in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. 5th scared the crap out of me when it did it.

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Under the right conditions. My VDC will pop on in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. 5th scared the crap out of me when it did it.

Like on a frozen lake?

zefaulter · 08-26-2013, 06:29 AM

Yup happened to me during winter snow fall, on all gears lol...

Rusty · 08-26-2013, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Under the right conditions. My VDC will pop on in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. 5th scared the crap out of me when it did it.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Like on a frozen lake?

One cold morning with cold Mich PSS's. Not a good combination.

tturbo370z · 08-26-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

That's a load of shít.
Did you replace your tires with the same tires?

Nope the stock tires suck balls. Went with michelin pss. My issues progressively got worse and the tire issue worked for me. Just a thought. Can't speak for others just know what solved my clutch slipping/vdc issues.

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tturbo370z

Nope the stock tires suck balls. Went with michelin pss. My issues progressively got worse and the tire issue worked for me. Just a thought. Can't speak for others just know what solved my clutch slipping/vdc issues.

Bam, exactly, then it wasn't tire circumference, it was shitty tires...
You're comparing apples to a sandwich

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

One cold morning with cold Mich PSS's. Not a good combination.

Like it was so cold that your tires were literally popsicles?
Because for you to have problems through FIFTH means one of a few things:
You're on a frozen lake
You have negative tread on your tires, AND you're on a frozen lake
Or, you're boosted, and while going 80-100MPH, you decided that while holding the clutch in, you decide to mash the gas pedal and shift at 7400RPM

SouthArk370Z · 08-26-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tlr3715

I've noticed whenever I mash on the gas in first, second, or third the traction control light goes on. I have a hard time believing the stock 350hp engine has enough power to break the tires free going 75MPH in third gear. Is this due to poor tires, or is it due to the stiffer suspension of the Nismo? ...

There's a real good chance that you are causing a wheel to slip. 300+ HP in a light car. My Touring has made VDC kick in at highway speed (that'll make you butthole pucker heehee).

I'd check the tire circumferences. If one (or more) of the tires is bigger/smaller than the rest, it will mess with VDC.

The suspension doesn't help. There is an arched bridge in town that has a small bump about halfway up. I don't have to have the pedal down very far for a wheel to slip when I hit the bump. I'm guessing the Nismo is even worse.

MJB · 08-26-2013, 11:41 AM

Mine is doing it too, I have brand new tires. Was doing it with my old tires as well. I checked the FSM and it says there may be air in the brake lines.

08-25-2013, 11:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
tlr3715 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 35 Drives: 2013 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 12	Traction Control Through Third Gear I've noticed whenever I mash on the gas in first, second, or third the traction control light goes on. I have a hard time believing the stock 350hp engine has enough power to break the tires free going 75MPH in third gear. Is this due to poor tires, or is it due to the stiffer suspension of the Nismo? Has anyone used the stock Yokohama Advan sport tires on the track, and if so what do you think of them?

08-26-2013, 02:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Elan Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 906 Drives: Airplanes Rep Power: 16	Yeah it VDC likes to cut the power for no reason...so overbearing at times. If I am going to get on it, VDC is off. __________________ 2009 370Z NISMO #477 \| AAM Competition Short Tails \| AAM Competition HFCs \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| Kenwood DPX300U \| Rockford Fosgate PRIME R300-4 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P165 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P300-12 \| Polk Audio db1001 \| 15% Tints \| GTR Start Button \|

08-26-2013, 02:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
tturbo370z Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Az Posts: 622 Drives: 09 370z sport 6mt Rep Power: 128	What is the tread like on your tires? I recall constantly taking my car to he dealer for vdc issues and the dealer told there was nothing wrong. It was so bad to the point u couldn't even drive the car with the VDC on it was that annoying. A friend of mine told me to check the wear on my tires as when they wear the circumference is smaller and the computer sees it as slipping so vdc engages. I though he was full of shite but the instant I replaced the tires the problem was gone. Just a thought. __________________ JUST STUFF 800whp700wtq Tturbo370z 800whp build https://instagram.com/jdm_370z

08-26-2013, 03:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	I was with 460 WHP Twin turbo and I had nice traction on 2nd gear. Please replace your tires. __________________ G37 BUILD UNDER CONSTRUCTION

08-26-2013, 04:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,180 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	Under the right conditions. My VDC will pop on in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. 5th scared the crap out of me when it did it. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

08-25-2013, 11:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
ka24king Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: texas Posts: 582 Drives: '10 370z 40th annv. Rep Power: 13	I know what your talking about I've noticed this also and I'm not sure I think it just gets a tiny bit of slip from popping off the clutch or something because I agree I doubt that our cars are that powerful

08-26-2013, 06:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
zefaulter A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,983 Drives: 40th 370Z Rep Power: 27	Yup happened to me during winter snow fall, on all gears lol... NickTurnon and DEpointfive0 like this.

08-26-2013, 11:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
MJB A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Age: 41 Posts: 1,498 Drives: a POS truck Rep Power: 496	Mine is doing it too, I have brand new tires. Was doing it with my old tires as well. I checked the FSM and it says there may be air in the brake lines. __________________ 09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.

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