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Armhunter 07-21-2013 10:46 PM

burning smell.
 
i dont hardly ever race my car.. i dont floor it from a dead stop. maybe once in a blue moon. but today i did. had a guy on a motorcycle want to mess around and thought it would be fun. i forgot to turn off traction control only cause i rarely do these things. i gave it some good rpm's and tried to take off. i started rolling but not going anywhere and the rpm's maxed out a couple times.

It was as if the clutch just gave up. first thing i checked was traction control,, that light was not coming on, only the REV light. i waited until the car calmed down and the rpm.s dropped until i tried to give it normal gas and drive away.

The car drives fine, but now i smell a burning smell from the engine.. anyone got a clue as to what that could be? Every time i drive it now i get that smell.

thank you

Akbubba47 07-21-2013 11:03 PM

You already said it in your post. You burnt your clutch. The smell will go away, just takes a little time. Hopefully it wasn't too severe, where it will cause engagement issues (flat spot) and eventually cause the clutch to pop.

Armhunter 07-21-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Akbubba47 (Post 2413095)
You already said it in your post. You burnt your clutch. The smell will go away, just takes a little time. Hopefully it wasn't too severe, where it will cause engagement issues (flat spot) and eventually cause the clutch to pop.

wow.. new car and already clutch issues.. i guess i will upgrade my clutch.. thats embarrasing that the clutch burns out so easily.

thank you!

Akbubba47 07-21-2013 11:33 PM

I could always be wrong but I'm 93% sure, just like my octane ha...

With all due respect, don't rule out the possibility of driver error. You don't typically beat on the car, so with your adrenaline pumping you may have made a mistake.

Also, don't mess with bikes, #1 they have no protective shell around them if you or they screw up, and #2 you stand no chance against even a 600cc bike.

rAiN 07-21-2013 11:42 PM

had same thing happened to me, one day i was trying to show off by doing a little burn out and clutch wouldn't come up fully. same burning smell for awhile and now its gone but it also feels like my clutch was broken in because the engaging got lot smoother.

Armhunter 07-21-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Akbubba47 (Post 2413123)
I could always be wrong but I'm 93% sure, just like my octane ha...

With all due respect, don't rule out the possibility of driver error. You don't typically beat on the car, so with your adrenaline pumping you may have made a mistake.

Also, don't mess with bikes, #1 they have no protective shell around them if you or they screw up, and #2 you stand no chance against even a 600cc bike.

good point about no protection. i know i wont beat a bike.. was just going to have fun.. i like driving anyway, not taking off 0-60.. its about the corners!! thats why i take it to the canyon.

Armhunter 07-23-2013 12:04 PM

Well, $1400 later, I ordered a new clutch, master and slave and all the goodies to install it. This car cost a **** load of money. lol

MJB 07-23-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Armhunter (Post 2415188)
Well, $1400 later, I ordered a new clutch, master and slave and all the goodies to install it. This car cost a **** load of money. lol

What clutch did you go with? Did you get a light weight flywheel too?

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 12:35 PM

I seriously doubt the clutch was fried from one bad launch. I'd have waited a little longer to buy a replacement unless it was slipping. Did you ever floor it in 5th gear and see if the clutch was slipping? The smell takes a while to go away, usually not in two days.

Armhunter 07-23-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2415241)
I seriously doubt the clutch was fried from one bad launch. I'd have waited a little longer to buy a replacement unless it was slipping. Did you ever floor it in 5th gear and see if the clutch was slipping? The smell takes a while to go away, usually not in two days.

Im not the kind of guy that likes to sit on things and see if it will fail. I also travel a lot. I was just in Tahoe. Can you imagine if it decided to completely quit on my in Tahoe? 8 hours away from where I live.

I think its embarrassing for something like that to happen. If I want to launch the thing should launch. Either way, Joe said this will last longer and is a much better clutch all the way around.

I have already had the master cylinder fail on me too. The clutch feels different to me, maybe I am thinking about it too much but it just doesnt have that instant grab feel it used too.


this is what I ordered.

Stage 2 CLutch

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 01:02 PM

You jumped the gun buying a new clutch. You launched it badly once. It's not on the way out. There's nothing wrong with the oem clutch as far as launching it. One launch where you spun it and smelled it for two days in no way necessitates buying a new clutch. Take a look at the disc that comes out if you go forward with the replacement. I'll bet it's still got plenty of meat on it.

Elan 07-23-2013 01:22 PM

OP...was this you? :D
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...12/563/05d.jpg

Corvette Z06 Burnout Fail - YouTube

fuct 07-23-2013 02:41 PM

let us know how the stage 2 daily works for ya.

MJB 07-23-2013 03:18 PM

I have the same clutch and flywheel setup with upgraded Csc. It's so much smoother than stock, revs up a ton faster, and 1st gear takeoff is super easy. Granted my Z isn't a DD, but this setup can definitely be. A tad bit more chatter while stopped in neutral, but that is expected with a lightweight FW.

Armhunter 07-23-2013 03:40 PM

HAHA, you guys are funny.. No, that was not me.. I realized right away something was wrong and stopped giving it gas.

If I jumped the gun, its ok.. I have money.

Give me a couple weeks to get it all set up and I will let you all know how it works out.

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 03:57 PM

Yeah, it's not like it's a bad upgrade. You might make some money back too, once you get the old one out and take a look at it. Someone with a really fried clutch will take it off your hands.

Armhunter 07-23-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2415622)
Yeah, it's not like it's a bad upgrade. You might make some money back too, once you get the old one out and take a look at it. Someone with a really fried clutch will take it off your hands.

good idea!! thanks!

Mandingo 07-23-2013 06:34 PM

I've found the stock clutch to be very stout actually

Elan 07-23-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Armhunter (Post 2415597)
HAHA, you guys are funny.. No, that was not me.. I realized right away something was wrong and stopped giving it gas.

If I jumped the gun, its ok.. I have money.

Give me a couple weeks to get it all set up and I will let you all know how it works out.

Nothing wrong with an aftermarket clutch! If you can buy it, then do what makes you happy. :tiphat:

KingJoseph 07-25-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Akbubba47 (Post 2413123)
I could always be wrong but I'm 93% sure, just like my octane ha...

With all due respect, don't rule out the possibility of driver error. You don't typically beat on the car, so with your adrenaline pumping you may have made a mistake.

Also, don't mess with bikes, #1 they have no protective shell around them if you or they screw up, and #2 you stand no chance against even a 600cc bike.

This.

I have a CBR600RR and a Nismo and, while I love my Z, the rate of acceleration is not even close. Depending on which publication you believe, the 0-60 time for that bike is anywhere from high 2s to low 3s... even a second longer and it'd still handily embarrass most cars.

Armhunter 07-25-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2417944)
This.

I have a CBR600RR and a Nismo and, while I love my Z, the rate of acceleration is not even close. Depending on which publication you believe, the 0-60 time for that bike is anywhere from high 2s to low 3s... even a second longer and it'd still handily embarrass most cars.

I know all this. I have had bikes too. My friends have bike. Its not even in the same category.. The guy was smiling and waving me on and I just thought it would be fun. I already know i was going to lose.. but its still fun. Now after what the other guy said about safety for the biker, i wont do it again. If he fell and I hit him, im done!! Not worth it. I have respect for all bikers and always move out of their way.

chii370 07-25-2013 11:38 PM

the transmission in the Z is fantittyfuckintastic but the clutch is a flaming piece of ****. I remember glazing my 09 clutch after about 5 passes up the 1/4 mile driving it like you would expect a 45k car to. since then I quickly learned what you can and cant do without repercussion with this car. prepare yourself, plenty of other parts they cheaped out on.... cough cough slave cylinder.....

chii370 07-31-2013 07:28 PM

I think the new clutch purchase was a little premature as others have said. When i had my 09 i did the hard launch thing until i got it out of my system and i COOKED that thing putting it down the 1/4 mile with an amature launch about 4 times. you could smell it 20 feet from the car. then about 20k miles later my slave cylinder went out like they always do, and i had the tech look at the clutch and it was fine. no glazing at all. it takes a LOT of abuse to seriously damage a composite clutch, even single plate.

Armhunter 08-01-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 2427576)
I think the new clutch purchase was a little premature as others have said. When i had my 09 i did the hard launch thing until i got it out of my system and i COOKED that thing putting it down the 1/4 mile with an amature launch about 4 times. you could smell it 20 feet from the car. then about 20k miles later my slave cylinder went out like they always do, and i had the tech look at the clutch and it was fine. no glazing at all. it takes a LOT of abuse to seriously damage a composite clutch, even single plate.

its all good man.. I will install it later down the road.

NissanGuy23 08-01-2013 11:18 AM

The clutch is a friction device at the end of the day and if you "ride it" at high RPMS, it will start to smell/burn. This is true with any clutch. You probably wore away a tiny bit of material, i don't think there was anything wrong with it. I don't know whether it was driver error or if your clutch slipped due to an issue with the clutch, but either way the burning smell is something you want to avoid but its no biggie if it happens once.

When i was learning to drive stick in my Tiburon, uphill, i "rode" the clutch as i went up this hill and you could smell it

Armhunter 08-01-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 2428349)
The clutch is a friction device at the end of the day and if you "ride it" at high RPMS, it will start to smell/burn. This is true with any clutch. You probably wore away a tiny bit of material, i don't think there was anything wrong with it. I don't know whether it was driver error or if your clutch slipped due to an issue with the clutch, but either way the burning smell is something you want to avoid but its no biggie if it happens once.

When i was learning to drive stick in my Tiburon, uphill, i "rode" the clutch as i went up this hill and you could smell it

I understand.. But I have been driving since I was 14 years old, I am 41 now. Learned how to drive a clutch first. I have never had a clutch slip that bad until i was about 130k miles on my 99 Eclipse GST. I have never smelled that either. Im not used to a clutch doing anything bad until at least 50-60k miles on it. And I thought I knew how to pop the clutch just fine from a stand still.. I wish I could go back and see what i did wrong..

Maybe it was because I just drove the car 7 straight hours from Tahoe? I dont know.


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