Nismo Clutch

MJB · 05-08-2013, 10:56 PM

Any updates OP?

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 10:31 AM

mine on the 09 failed at about 39k miles. im not making the same mistake with the 13 nismo its getting an aftermarket CSC. have a nagging feeling the JDM cars probably dont have this problem lol :P always been curious why there are so MANY differences between them. not only the JDM mods they then slowly trickle out to the american public. thats about 1/3 of the total differences between the cars. my fiance is japanese, and i got to inspect a 2012 nismo in japan........ they get TONS of **** we dont, including factory leather nismo seats and stuff. so i wouldnt doubt for a second things like the slave cylinder have been replaces with cheap **** for the american car to save money. since the japanese car has a different rear dif, and clutch as well. which btw u can buy for an asston of money.

theDreamer · 05-09-2013, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chii370

mine on the 09 failed at about 39k miles. im not making the same mistake with the 13 nismo its getting an aftermarket CSC. have a nagging feeling the JDM cars probably dont have this problem lol :P always been curious why there are so MANY differences between them. not only the JDM mods they then slowly trickle out to the american public. thats about 1/3 of the total differences between the cars. my fiance is japanese, and i got to inspect a 2012 nismo in japan........ they get TONS of **** we dont, including factory leather nismo seats and stuff. so i wouldnt doubt for a second things like the slave cylinder have been replaces with cheap **** for the american car to save money. since the japanese car has a different rear dif, and clutch as well. which btw u can buy for an asston of money.

I highly doubt they get anything different. They just buy the parts in bulk and throw them in. Yes, in Japan you have more options to put into a Z in each model but the parts are bid out to 3rd parties and they are not going to run different ones per region like that.

Also, would like to see more details on how they get a different cluch and such from factory. Now they do have access to aftermarket Nismo parts more than we do, is that what you are referring to?

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 11:23 AM

just going by what i saw and heard from the owner. he claimed it was a stock factory nismo. i dont have documentation or proof so it is what it is. but supposedly they have a clutch type rear dif, similar to the GT pro we can buy from nismo for like..... 3k+ the leather seats and upholstery, the SAT NAV!!! in a nismo, with the boss system "mind you this was a 2012 model" we didnt get the boss till 13, and still no satnav. rear wiper like a 350z "ugly" different clutch, not sure if its single or dual. several frame supports, and from what he said, some suspension differences. not sure on exact details dude, wish i did. he didnt seem the type to really know **** about cars, so obviously he was just rattling this stuff off his memory from the spec sheet he probably memorized to feel like he knew something about his own car. he was a mid life crisis Z driver lol. which leads me to believe what he told me is TRUE for 2 reasons. first, didnt strike me as knowledgeable enough to modify a car so if it WAS different.... the factory supplied it. and second, not knowing makes it less likely he would even know those parts existed in the first place to "pretend" you have on your car.

i for one would like some formal documentation like a side by side comparison, part for part. american v japanese. I honestly disagree with you, its WELL known that several vehicles from almost EVERY japanese manufacture have subtle to extreme differences compared to their american counterparts. trust me man, im in denial mode too but is it really that far fetched that the Z is one of those cars? everyone who is an owner of something wants to believe they didnt pay more for less than the same thing somewhere else. most of those parts that we can BUY for our nismo come on theirs, so who is to say there arent things we CANT buy that they have? because there is. only thing i can tell you is, learn to speak japanese, go there, find out for yourself. otherwise your just pulling your knowledge base from the same location every other american Z owner does. the internet, magazines, and tv. we all get the same info.

OR this guy was just lying. unfortunately there wasnt 10 other 2012 japanese nismos next to each other with their respective owners, so i couldnt run a comparison test lol

theDreamer · 05-09-2013, 11:30 AM

I don't really care what extra stuff they get, it would be like Ford holding back the Mustang in other countries so the US version is different & unique.
The options have been known for years, Japan owners can add leather, nav, bluetooth, etc. to any model as an option while we get packaged versions. It is easier since they have to build them, ship them and then sell them here so reduces overhead.

I would imagine if the guy got anything special it was a Nismo upgrade they offer that is tough to get here other than sourcing it through certain vendors. I still doubt they make the car any different, remember the Z is an assembly line car that is built in bulk with Nissan working with 3rd parties to supply parts. It would expensive to have them supply one clutch for the US and another for Japan and a horrible business move. Now for the GT-R I could see them doing thing different because the car is more hand built and parts are a bit more custom made per each car.

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 11:36 AM

all nismo Z's are assembled in japan and shipped here but regular 370z are NOT. so no, it would be localized and not an "overly expensive" move at all.

also, we have all the same options for all the cars we sell overseas. but dont have all the models available. pretty much the only country that does that. everyone else reserves the best for themselves, that DOES happen actually.

Chuck33079 · 05-09-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

all nismo Z's are assembled in japan and shipped here but regular 370z are NOT.

Are you sure? I was under the impression they all came from Japan.

Chuck33079 · 05-09-2013, 12:06 PM

370Z Final Point of Assembly

Here we go. Built in Japan.

theDreamer · 05-09-2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chii370

all nismo Z's are assembled in japan and shipped here but regular 370z are NOT. so no, it would be localized and not an "overly expensive" move at all.

also, we have all the same options for all the cars we sell overseas. but dont have all the models available. pretty much the only country that does that. everyone else reserves the best for themselves, that DOES happen actually.

All Nissan Z are built in Japan and shipped over, so yes it would be expensive, remember Nissan works on economics of scale with the Z so one item change in the assembly line can be a huge cost.

theDreamer · 05-09-2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

370Z Final Point of Assembly

Here we go. Built in Japan.

I don't think he really understands what he is talking about.
Probably just heard some random guy talking and took it as facts.

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 12:10 PM

99.9% sure, give me a few to find some reputable backup on that statement. not saying i cant be wrong on this, but that was what i had always heard. since nismo is only in japan, we have nissan motorsports america, but they dont assemble cars lol. at the very LEAST the nismos are not on the same assembly line in the same location. but im pretty sure some, if not all the american 370z's "non nismo" are ASSEMBLED in the us. they can still be manufactured in japan lol, two different things.

Chuck33079 · 05-09-2013, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chii370

but im pretty sure some, if not all the american 370z's "non nismo" are ASSEMBLED in the us. they can still be manufactured in japan lol, two different things.

Nope. Built in Japan.

theDreamer · 05-09-2013, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chii370

99.9% sure, give me a few to find some reputable backup on that statement. not saying i cant be wrong on this, but that was what i had always heard. since nismo is only in japan, we have nissan motorsports america, but they dont assemble cars lol. at the very LEAST the nismos are not on the same assembly line in the same location. but im pretty sure some, if not all the american 370z's "non nismo" are ASSEMBLED in the us. they can still be manufactured in japan lol, two different things.

Nope, they are built & assembled in Japan. The only thing done in the US is they add items like the kickplates or splash guards.

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 12:19 PM

ah, i was mistaken on that one then. disregard. but the nismos are not assembled on the same line though right? im not sure WHERE i heard/read/watched that but it wasnt something i was made aware of only once....... am i wrong about that too?

Chuck33079 · 05-09-2013, 12:21 PM

I would have bought the **** out of a Nismo with touring+nav if they offered it here.

05-08-2013, 10:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
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05-09-2013, 11:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	I don't really care what extra stuff they get, it would be like Ford holding back the Mustang in other countries so the US version is different & unique. The options have been known for years, Japan owners can add leather, nav, bluetooth, etc. to any model as an option while we get packaged versions. It is easier since they have to build them, ship them and then sell them here so reduces overhead. I would imagine if the guy got anything special it was a Nismo upgrade they offer that is tough to get here other than sourcing it through certain vendors. I still doubt they make the car any different, remember the Z is an assembly line car that is built in bulk with Nissan working with 3rd parties to supply parts. It would expensive to have them supply one clutch for the US and another for Japan and a horrible business move. Now for the GT-R I could see them doing thing different because the car is more hand built and parts are a bit more custom made per each car. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

05-09-2013, 11:36 AM	#21 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	all nismo Z's are assembled in japan and shipped here but regular 370z are NOT. so no, it would be localized and not an "overly expensive" move at all. also, we have all the same options for all the cars we sell overseas. but dont have all the models available. pretty much the only country that does that. everyone else reserves the best for themselves, that DOES happen actually. Last edited by chii370; 05-09-2013 at 11:38 AM.

05-09-2013, 12:06 PM	#23 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	370Z Final Point of Assembly Here we go. Built in Japan. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-09-2013, 12:21 PM	#30 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I would have bought the **** out of a Nismo with touring+nav if they offered it here. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-09-2013, 10:31 AM	#17 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	mine on the 09 failed at about 39k miles. im not making the same mistake with the 13 nismo its getting an aftermarket CSC. have a nagging feeling the JDM cars probably dont have this problem lol :P always been curious why there are so MANY differences between them. not only the JDM mods they then slowly trickle out to the american public. thats about 1/3 of the total differences between the cars. my fiance is japanese, and i got to inspect a 2012 nismo in japan........ they get TONS of ** we dont, including factory leather nismo seats and stuff. so i wouldnt doubt for a second things like the slave cylinder have been replaces with cheap ** for the american car to save money. since the japanese car has a different rear dif, and clutch as well. which btw u can buy for an asston of money.

05-09-2013, 11:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	just going by what i saw and heard from the owner. he claimed it was a stock factory nismo. i dont have documentation or proof so it is what it is. but supposedly they have a clutch type rear dif, similar to the GT pro we can buy from nismo for like..... 3k+ the leather seats and upholstery, the SAT NAV!!! in a nismo, with the boss system "mind you this was a 2012 model" we didnt get the boss till 13, and still no satnav. rear wiper like a 350z "ugly" different clutch, not sure if its single or dual. several frame supports, and from what he said, some suspension differences. not sure on exact details dude, wish i did. he didnt seem the type to really know **** about cars, so obviously he was just rattling this stuff off his memory from the spec sheet he probably memorized to feel like he knew something about his own car. he was a mid life crisis Z driver lol. which leads me to believe what he told me is TRUE for 2 reasons. first, didnt strike me as knowledgeable enough to modify a car so if it WAS different.... the factory supplied it. and second, not knowing makes it less likely he would even know those parts existed in the first place to "pretend" you have on your car. i for one would like some formal documentation like a side by side comparison, part for part. american v japanese. I honestly disagree with you, its WELL known that several vehicles from almost EVERY japanese manufacture have subtle to extreme differences compared to their american counterparts. trust me man, im in denial mode too but is it really that far fetched that the Z is one of those cars? everyone who is an owner of something wants to believe they didnt pay more for less than the same thing somewhere else. most of those parts that we can BUY for our nismo come on theirs, so who is to say there arent things we CANT buy that they have? because there is. only thing i can tell you is, learn to speak japanese, go there, find out for yourself. otherwise your just pulling your knowledge base from the same location every other american Z owner does. the internet, magazines, and tv. we all get the same info. OR this guy was just lying. unfortunately there wasnt 10 other 2012 japanese nismos next to each other with their respective owners, so i couldnt run a comparison test lol

05-09-2013, 12:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	99.9% sure, give me a few to find some reputable backup on that statement. not saying i cant be wrong on this, but that was what i had always heard. since nismo is only in japan, we have nissan motorsports america, but they dont assemble cars lol. at the very LEAST the nismos are not on the same assembly line in the same location. but im pretty sure some, if not all the american 370z's "non nismo" are ASSEMBLED in the us. they can still be manufactured in japan lol, two different things.

05-09-2013, 12:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	ah, i was mistaken on that one then. disregard. but the nismos are not assembled on the same line though right? im not sure WHERE i heard/read/watched that but it wasnt something i was made aware of only once....... am i wrong about that too?

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