Nismo Clutch

fuct · 05-06-2013, 08:42 AM

my CSC broke at 24k miles. sound s exactly like your problem OP.

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 09:31 AM

mine on the 09 failed at about 39k miles. im not making the same mistake with the 13 nismo its getting an aftermarket CSC. have a nagging feeling the JDM cars probably dont have this problem lol :P always been curious why there are so MANY differences between them. not only the JDM mods they then slowly trickle out to the american public. thats about 1/3 of the total differences between the cars. my fiance is japanese, and i got to inspect a 2012 nismo in japan........ they get TONS of **** we dont, including factory leather nismo seats and stuff. so i wouldnt doubt for a second things like the slave cylinder have been replaces with cheap **** for the american car to save money. since the japanese car has a different rear dif, and clutch as well. which btw u can buy for an asston of money.

theDreamer · 05-09-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

mine on the 09 failed at about 39k miles. im not making the same mistake with the 13 nismo its getting an aftermarket CSC. have a nagging feeling the JDM cars probably dont have this problem lol :P always been curious why there are so MANY differences between them. not only the JDM mods they then slowly trickle out to the american public. thats about 1/3 of the total differences between the cars. my fiance is japanese, and i got to inspect a 2012 nismo in japan........ they get TONS of **** we dont, including factory leather nismo seats and stuff. so i wouldnt doubt for a second things like the slave cylinder have been replaces with cheap **** for the american car to save money. since the japanese car has a different rear dif, and clutch as well. which btw u can buy for an asston of money.

I highly doubt they get anything different. They just buy the parts in bulk and throw them in. Yes, in Japan you have more options to put into a Z in each model but the parts are bid out to 3rd parties and they are not going to run different ones per region like that.

Also, would like to see more details on how they get a different cluch and such from factory. Now they do have access to aftermarket Nismo parts more than we do, is that what you are referring to?

chii370 · 05-09-2013, 10:23 AM

just going by what i saw and heard from the owner. he claimed it was a stock factory nismo. i dont have documentation or proof so it is what it is. but supposedly they have a clutch type rear dif, similar to the GT pro we can buy from nismo for like..... 3k+ the leather seats and upholstery, the SAT NAV!!! in a nismo, with the boss system "mind you this was a 2012 model" we didnt get the boss till 13, and still no satnav. rear wiper like a 350z "ugly" different clutch, not sure if its single or dual. several frame supports, and from what he said, some suspension differences. not sure on exact details dude, wish i did. he didnt seem the type to really know **** about cars, so obviously he was just rattling this stuff off his memory from the spec sheet he probably memorized to feel like he knew something about his own car. he was a mid life crisis Z driver lol. which leads me to believe what he told me is TRUE for 2 reasons. first, didnt strike me as knowledgeable enough to modify a car so if it WAS different.... the factory supplied it. and second, not knowing makes it less likely he would even know those parts existed in the first place to "pretend" you have on your car.

i for one would like some formal documentation like a side by side comparison, part for part. american v japanese. I honestly disagree with you, its WELL known that several vehicles from almost EVERY japanese manufacture have subtle to extreme differences compared to their american counterparts. trust me man, im in denial mode too but is it really that far fetched that the Z is one of those cars? everyone who is an owner of something wants to believe they didnt pay more for less than the same thing somewhere else. most of those parts that we can BUY for our nismo come on theirs, so who is to say there arent things we CANT buy that they have? because there is. only thing i can tell you is, learn to speak japanese, go there, find out for yourself. otherwise your just pulling your knowledge base from the same location every other american Z owner does. the internet, magazines, and tv. we all get the same info.

OR this guy was just lying. unfortunately there wasnt 10 other 2012 japanese nismos next to each other with their respective owners, so i couldnt run a comparison test lol

fuct · 05-10-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct

my CSC broke at 24k miles. sound s exactly like your problem OP.

i was right

Baer383 · 05-10-2013, 12:33 PM

I just replaced mine with the one from Z speed with a Southbend stage 3 ,no more worrying when it will decide to give out.

Armhunter · 05-11-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I just replaced mine with the one from Z speed with a Southbend stage 3 ,no more worrying when it will decide to give out.

Ill do this the next time it goes out. I will be ready for it this time. This came out of no where and i didnt want to wait for delivery.

Baer383 · 05-11-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Armhunter

Ill do this the next time it goes out. I will be ready for it this time. This came out of no where and i didnt want to wait for delivery.

That's when it happens ,out of nowhere ,I got my clutch ***. 2 days after I ordered it.

Gmendez · 05-20-2013, 12:19 PM

Guys, I had the same thing happened to me on Friday (pedal to the floor - no leaking, fluid level was fine). Dealer flushed the DOT3 fluid (OEM) out, filled with fresh DOT 4, bled properly and problem solved. Our cars run very hot and with the fluids absorbing water over time, thus lowering the boiling point, the DOT 3 fluid boils at much lower temps rendering it useless.

Armhunter · 05-20-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmendez

Guys, I had the same thing happened to me on Friday (pedal to the floor - no leaking, fluid level was fine). Dealer flushed the DOT3 fluid (OEM) out, filled with fresh DOT 4, bled properly and problem solved. Our cars run very hot and with the fluids absorbing water over time, thus lowering the boiling point, the DOT 3 fluid boils at much lower temps rendering it useless.

very interesting.

djtodd · 05-20-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmendez

Guys, I had the same thing happened to me on Friday (pedal to the floor - no leaking, fluid level was fine). Dealer flushed the DOT3 fluid (OEM) out, filled with fresh DOT 4, bled properly and problem solved. Our cars run very hot and with the fluids absorbing water over time, thus lowering the boiling point, the DOT 3 fluid boils at much lower temps rendering it useless.

Yep. Bleeding the clutch after track days is always a gruesome sight

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05-06-2013, 08:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	my CSC broke at 24k miles. sound s exactly like your problem OP.

05-09-2013, 09:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	mine on the 09 failed at about 39k miles. im not making the same mistake with the 13 nismo its getting an aftermarket CSC. have a nagging feeling the JDM cars probably dont have this problem lol :P always been curious why there are so MANY differences between them. not only the JDM mods they then slowly trickle out to the american public. thats about 1/3 of the total differences between the cars. my fiance is japanese, and i got to inspect a 2012 nismo in japan........ they get TONS of ** we dont, including factory leather nismo seats and stuff. so i wouldnt doubt for a second things like the slave cylinder have been replaces with cheap ** for the american car to save money. since the japanese car has a different rear dif, and clutch as well. which btw u can buy for an asston of money.

05-09-2013, 10:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	just going by what i saw and heard from the owner. he claimed it was a stock factory nismo. i dont have documentation or proof so it is what it is. but supposedly they have a clutch type rear dif, similar to the GT pro we can buy from nismo for like..... 3k+ the leather seats and upholstery, the SAT NAV!!! in a nismo, with the boss system "mind you this was a 2012 model" we didnt get the boss till 13, and still no satnav. rear wiper like a 350z "ugly" different clutch, not sure if its single or dual. several frame supports, and from what he said, some suspension differences. not sure on exact details dude, wish i did. he didnt seem the type to really know **** about cars, so obviously he was just rattling this stuff off his memory from the spec sheet he probably memorized to feel like he knew something about his own car. he was a mid life crisis Z driver lol. which leads me to believe what he told me is TRUE for 2 reasons. first, didnt strike me as knowledgeable enough to modify a car so if it WAS different.... the factory supplied it. and second, not knowing makes it less likely he would even know those parts existed in the first place to "pretend" you have on your car. i for one would like some formal documentation like a side by side comparison, part for part. american v japanese. I honestly disagree with you, its WELL known that several vehicles from almost EVERY japanese manufacture have subtle to extreme differences compared to their american counterparts. trust me man, im in denial mode too but is it really that far fetched that the Z is one of those cars? everyone who is an owner of something wants to believe they didnt pay more for less than the same thing somewhere else. most of those parts that we can BUY for our nismo come on theirs, so who is to say there arent things we CANT buy that they have? because there is. only thing i can tell you is, learn to speak japanese, go there, find out for yourself. otherwise your just pulling your knowledge base from the same location every other american Z owner does. the internet, magazines, and tv. we all get the same info. OR this guy was just lying. unfortunately there wasnt 10 other 2012 japanese nismos next to each other with their respective owners, so i couldnt run a comparison test lol

05-20-2013, 12:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gmendez Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 114 Drives: '10 PW 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 16	Guys, I had the same thing happened to me on Friday (pedal to the floor - no leaking, fluid level was fine). Dealer flushed the DOT3 fluid (OEM) out, filled with fresh DOT 4, bled properly and problem solved. Our cars run very hot and with the fluids absorbing water over time, thus lowering the boiling point, the DOT 3 fluid boils at much lower temps rendering it useless.