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KingJoseph 04-14-2013 03:57 PM

FI CF CBE installed on 2012 Nismo!
 
After much delay, I finally installed the FI CF CBE (w/ 12" resonators) on my 2012 Nismo. A couple quick notes for anybody who's on the fence.

First, the car sounds INSANE. In a good way, of course. I've never heard the SS version in person (or any other brand exhaust), but I can't imagine anything sounding better than this.

Second, I had concerns that I would lose power vs. the stock Nismo exhaust. I haven't dynoed the vehicle, but it felt faster and not just at the high end. I left the negative terminal of the battery off during the install hopefully my ECU is already learning to deal with its newfound respiratory abilities.

Third, the carbon fiber cans look fantastic. I think most untrained eyes won't even notice them because the dark color gives them kind of a stealth effect... but so far, those who have are unanimously in love w/ the CF look.

I also have Berk HFCs, so that should be taken into account... but the new addition of the exhaust has made me fall back in love with my car once again.

Rusty 04-14-2013 09:48 PM

'bout time! :tup:

KingJoseph 04-15-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2267200)
'bout time! :tup:

Haha, true that... but I still got some work to do to catch up to you! :)

Wonka2581 04-15-2013 12:37 AM

Pics?

KingJoseph 04-15-2013 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2267350)
Pics?

I didn't take any during the install; I thought about doing a DIY, but I did the install at a friend's personal shop and he has a newborn, so I didn't want to infringe too much on his time.

Here's a ghetto pic of the finished product, albeit on a dirty car. Damn this Seattle weather; I just got the car fully detailed and waxed a week ago. Ouch.

Armhunter 04-15-2013 08:08 PM

I have the same exhaust.. Everyone trips out on the carbon fiber cans!! Everyone always comments on how sick it sounds too.
I have the Stillen CAI and the FI test pipes. I also had my tuned my Specialty Z...

Congrats by the way!

forza370z 04-15-2013 10:29 PM

Sweet :tup:

bb370z 04-16-2013 12:51 PM

Nice! Getting the same for mine w/18" resonators. Due to ship any day now. Can't wait!

XwChriswX 04-16-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2266678)
After much delay, I finally installed the FI CF CBE (w/ 12" resonators) on my 2012 Nismo. A couple quick notes for anybody who's on the fence.

First, the car sounds INSANE. In a good way, of course. I've never heard the SS version in person (or any other brand exhaust), but I can't imagine anything sounding better than this.

Second, I had concerns that I would lose power vs. the stock Nismo exhaust. I haven't dynoed the vehicle, but it felt faster and not just at the high end. I left the negative terminal of the battery off during the install hopefully my ECU is already learning to deal with its newfound respiratory abilities.

Third, the carbon fiber cans look fantastic. I think most untrained eyes won't even notice them because the dark color gives them kind of a stealth effect... but so far, those who have are unanimously in love w/ the CF look.

I also have Berk HFCs, so that should be taken into account... but the new addition of the exhaust has made me fall back in love with my car once again.

I'm not sure how you could ever be worried about this, but trust that there is nothing to fear. :tup: F.I. only adds power. :tup:

luigi90210 04-16-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2269574)
I'm not sure how you could ever be worried about this, but trust that there is nothing to fear. :tup: F.I. only adds power. :tup:

I think he means losing low end to gain top end, which IMO that's a huge compromise when you are driving the car on the street.

I personally would rather have more usable power over having all top end power and high HP numbers.

KingJoseph 04-16-2013 05:44 PM

After a few days, I honestly do think I lost a little low end... Typically, I never downshift and I pass with ease. It seems just a bit more labored now. That said, it does pull harder once I crest maybe 5500 RPMs and the sound at all RPMs is so sweet.

As Luigi said, low end = usable power on the street so I'm once again considering the M370 manifold since, from the dyno sheets I've seen, it seems bring up that low end at the expense of a little high end.

Not to mention Birdman has that youtube video with M370, Berk HFCs, and FI CBE and his car sounds ridiculously good.

Z-Girl 12 04-16-2013 06:11 PM

FI CF CBE best mod I've done to my baby. absolutely no regrets. congrats

luigi90210 04-16-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2270189)
After a few days, I honestly do think I lost a little low end... Typically, I never downshift and I pass with ease. It seems just a bit more labored now. That said, it does pull harder once I crest maybe 5500 RPMs and the sound at all RPMs is so sweet.

As Luigi said, low end = usable power on the street so I'm once again considering the M370 manifold since, from the dyno sheets I've seen, it seems bring up that low end at the expense of a little high end.

Not to mention Birdman has that youtube video with M370, Berk HFCs, and FI CBE and his car sounds ridiculously good.

You might be able to regain the lost power with a tune but that will only do so much.

I would love to know how the M370 is with your exhaust.

forza370z 04-16-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2270189)
After a few days, I honestly do think I lost a little low end... Typically, I never downshift and I pass with ease. It seems just a bit more labored now. That said, it does pull harder once I crest maybe 5500 RPMs and the sound at all RPMs is so sweet.

As Luigi said, low end = usable power on the street so I'm once again considering the M370 manifold since, from the dyno sheets I've seen, it seems bring up that low end at the expense of a little high end.

Not to mention Birdman has that youtube video with M370, Berk HFCs, and FI CBE and his car sounds ridiculously good.

I think it's time for you to have your car tuned. The exhaust, hfc/tp and CAI gain HP overall. But mainly the powerband is at high end. And you will feel sluggish at low/mid end. A fine tune don't necessary gain you much peak power but it definitely can correct your A/F ratio from running lean or rich. And you will definitely gain a lot mid range torque thus you will feel the car accelerates effortless.

KingJoseph 04-16-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2270516)
I think it's time for you to have your car tuned. The exhaust, hfc/tp and CAI gain HP overall. But mainly the powerband is at high end. And you will feel sluggish at low/mid end. A fine tune don't necessary gain you much peak power but it definitely can correct your A/F ratio from running lean or rich. And you will definitely gain a lot mid range torque thus you will feel the car accelerates effortless.

I'm just nervous about voiding the warranty. I had some issues w/ the dealership (they stiffed me on the 3M I paid for and went out of business like a week after I bought the car), so I had to settle up with corporate and all they could do was beef up my warranty. I still don't necessarily understand the ramifications of a tune w/ respect to warranty, but it sounds like it's voided if they detect a re-flash if there were any drivetrain issues...?

KingJoseph 04-16-2013 10:38 PM

By the way... for anybody curious what it sounds like, here is my Nismo with Berk HFCs and FI CF CBE w/ 12" resonators ONLY. No other mods.

Nismo 370Z w/ Berk HFCs and Fast Intentions Carbon Fiber CBE (12" resonators) - YouTube

Couldn't really get good acceleration due to a lot of traffic, but you'll get the idea.

forza370z 04-16-2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2270587)
I'm just nervous about voiding the warranty. I had some issues w/ the dealership (they stiffed me on the 3M I paid for and went out of business like a week after I bought the car), so I had to settle up with corporate and all they could do was beef up my warranty. I still don't necessarily understand the ramifications of a tune w/ respect to warranty, but it sounds like it's voided if they detect a re-flash if there were any drivetrain issues...?

Yea I see. I am not aware of that coz my warranty is out already. You might want to do a little more research on that.

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2270590)
By the way... for anybody curious what it sounds like, here is my Nismo with Berk HFCs and FI CF CBE w/ 12" resonators ONLY. No other mods.

Nismo 370Z w/ Berk HFCs and Fast Intentions Carbon Fiber CBE (12" resonators) - YouTube

Couldn't really get good acceleration due to a lot of traffic, but you'll get the idea.

Holy sh!t! That sounds nice!:tup:

XwChriswX 04-17-2013 12:15 AM

Yes adding a mid will make it sluggish, when you're done with breathing mods, get a tune and you will be amazed at how much power you have on tap now.

luigi90210 04-17-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJoseph (Post 2270587)
I'm just nervous about voiding the warranty. I had some issues w/ the dealership (they stiffed me on the 3M I paid for and went out of business like a week after I bought the car), so I had to settle up with corporate and all they could do was beef up my warranty. I still don't necessarily understand the ramifications of a tune w/ respect to warranty, but it sounds like it's voided if they detect a re-flash if there were any drivetrain issues...?

a tune will void your warranty if any drivetrain issues arise, even if the tune is good and the tune and aftermarket part didnt cause the issues(IE engine starts consuming oil), the dealer can say its because of the added stress the modifications caused because its running at *insert extra hp you are making here* more then what the car is rated for and they feel that they shouldn't be paying to fix something you broke and you could fight it in court but while you are doing that, your car is down and you wont be able to enjoy it and if you lose, you will still have to fix the car AND pay your attorney fees and possibly theirs as well so you end up losing even more money

its as the saying goes, if you wanna play, you gotta pay

the only time they will honor your warranty is if the modification doesnt contribute to the cause of the problem in any way shape or form(IE if turbo your Z, they still have to fix your steering wheel if the leather rips off from normal wear and tear but they dont have to fix the engine if you blow that up)


in my honest opinion, if you are really worried about warranty, just stay stock until you are out of warranty, the nismo 370z is an awesome street car stock

Stevie Z 04-18-2013 08:57 AM

The sound is amazing , totally transforms the experience. I'm thinking of doing the FI catback exhaust on my 2012 pearl white NISMo only 1 question, will I void my factory warranty, not sure, and what size resonators as well as what would look better on pearl white, carbon fiber mufflers or stainless? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

forza370z 04-18-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2271570)
a tune will void your warranty if any drivetrain issues arise, even if the tune is good and the tune and aftermarket part didnt cause the issues(IE engine starts consuming oil), the dealer can say its because of the added stress the modifications caused because its running at *insert extra hp you are making here* more then what the car is rated for and they feel that they shouldn't be paying to fix something you broke and you could fight it in court but while you are doing that, your car is down and you wont be able to enjoy it and if you lose, you will still have to fix the car AND pay your attorney fees and possibly theirs as well so you end up losing even more money

its as the saying goes, if you wanna play, you gotta pay

the only time they will honor your warranty is if the modification doesnt contribute to the cause of the problem in any way shape or form(IE if turbo your Z, they still have to fix your steering wheel if the leather rips off from normal wear and tear but they dont have to fix the engine if you blow that up)


in my honest opinion, if you are really worried about warranty, just stay stock until you are out of warranty, the nismo 370z is an awesome street car stock

Steering wheel got bent or the leather rips off because of the intense level the driver has everytime the turbo kicks in. So no, they won't fix it.:icon17:

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Once you had your turbo kit installed, you say bye-bye to your warranty.:tup:

forza370z 04-18-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevie Z (Post 2272798)
The sound is amazing , totally transforms the experience. I'm thinking of doing the FI catback exhaust on my 2012 pearl white NISMo only 1 question, will I void my factory warranty, not sure, and what size resonators as well as what would look better on pearl white, carbon fiber mufflers or stainless? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Usually the CBE is fine with the factory warranty unless the dealership want to give you a hard time. The carbon fiber ones are slightly louder then the SS ones. And they are lighter too. Both will look sick on the car. But if you want the stealth look then go for the carbon fiber ones.

luigi90210 04-18-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2273107)
Steering wheel got bent or the leather rips off because of the intense level the driver has everytime the turbo kicks in. So no, they won't fix it.:icon17:

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Once you had your turbo kit installed, you say bye-bye to your warranty.:tup:

You mean drive train warranty.

Like I said in my post, if you modify the ecu or engine, your drive train warranty is out the door but if you are under basic warranty(so interior Is covered), then they cant completely void your warranty because of the modifications unless the modification directly effects the problem(IE if your steering wheel peels or if your glove box stops opening, they have to fix it unless they can prove either you broke it, or your modification caused the problem)

forza370z 04-19-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2273722)
You mean drive train warranty.

Like I said in my post, if you modify the ecu or engine, your drive train warranty is out the door but if you are under basic warranty(so interior Is covered), then they cant completely void your warranty because of the modifications unless the modification directly effects the problem(IE if your steering wheel peels or if your glove box stops opening, they have to fix it unless they can prove either you broke it, or your modification caused the problem)

Yea I hear ya. I was just kidding.:icon17:

luigi90210 04-20-2013 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2274985)
Yea I hear ya. I was just kidding.:icon17:

ah ok, its hard to tell sometimes when its on the internet XD

1cleanZ 06-27-2013 11:51 AM

This exhaust on a Nismo just looks sexyyyy!!!!!! I've been debating between two setups....

Resonated HFCs paired with 12" resonated Xpipe
or for the added gains
Resonated TPs paired with 18" resonated Xpipe

Chuck33079 06-27-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2273722)
You mean drive train warranty.

Like I said in my post, if you modify the ecu or engine, your drive train warranty is out the door but if you are under basic warranty(so interior Is covered), then they cant completely void your warranty because of the modifications unless the modification directly effects the problem(IE if your steering wheel peels or if your glove box stops opening, they have to fix it unless they can prove either you broke it, or your modification caused the problem)

If your dealer is a stickler for the rules, this is true. There are also a lot of mod-friendly dealers out there that won't give you crap about being tuned. Ask local guys.

Armhunter 06-27-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2382278)
If your dealer is a stickler for the rules, this is true. There are also a lot of mod-friendly dealers out there that won't give you crap about being tuned. Ask local guys.

Just do what I did.. Make friends with a Nissan Mechanic.. Done deal.. They install all my mods and warranty everything.. :)

Tiny Tokes 06-27-2013 09:38 PM

I am also getting ready to pull the trigger on this. I have a 2012 Nismo and just installed the Stillen Gen3, Swifts and 15/20 H&R's.... I talked with Tony (great guy btw) @ FI and he sold me on the long tube headers and TDX pipes (thinking 12" res. will be perfect) He said you should gain back a lot of lower/mid with this setup... If anyone has this PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND BE HEARD.. LOL.

Armhunter 06-27-2013 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiny Tokes (Post 2383003)
I am also getting ready to pull the trigger on this. I have a 2012 Nismo and just installed the Stillen Gen3, Swifts and 15/20 H&R's.... I talked with Tony (great guy btw) @ FI and he sold me on the long tube headers and TDX pipes (thinking 12" res. will be perfect) He said you should gain back a lot of lower/mid with this setup... If anyone has this PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND BE HEARD.. LOL.

Talk to the guys at Specialty Z too.. The guy knows everything about Z's.. We had a long talk about headers.. After all this is done, you will need to get your car tuned anyway!! Make the call bro!

DCNISMO 06-28-2013 03:12 PM

I had the same thing on my Nismo. Berk cats first with Nismo cold air intake and uprev tune. I then added the FI exhaust weeks later and had dyno pulls done, and not retuned as they were booked up. It did lose power on low and mid range and labored as you noted. The dyno sheets showed it and I felt the power loss. So you really should get uprev to tune it. It can't adapt that much.

sillyoldtayo 06-30-2013 04:12 PM

I want this same exhaust! ive heard it on some g37s and other nismos...how long did it take to ship?


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