370Z disappointment -is Nismo the cure?

TreeSemdyZee · 11-13-2012, 10:05 PM

Different strokes for different folks.

My base with sport still gives me wood every time I get into it.

Rusty · 11-13-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TomM

Thx all---It is really sad---I loved my 280ZX and I loved my 300ZX :-(

My Mini is the JCW model and the Vette has the Z51 suspension and the RX-7 is far from stock. They all make noise and are point and shoot.

I really wanted to love this car. I thank you all for weighing in with your honest f/b and help.

I am going to try and go drive a Nismo. If I like it, I will get all your help figuring out how to make it "noisy"

Noisy. Try LTH, no cats, 12" resonators, and cbe.

Click on picture for video.

Zuppy51 · 11-14-2012, 11:06 AM

Honestly, do what I did. Test drive "Similar Cars". Boxster, Cayman, Z4, etc. then drive the Nismo. Only then will you understand what makes it unique, and revered. Otherwise, well it's apples and oranges...

BTW- Rusty, you have one bad *** car!

Armhunter · 11-14-2012, 11:47 AM

I thought more about this. My car goes right where I point it. The Nismo is awesome, the best handling car I have ever driven. I say go test drive it. An hour is not far!

Hotrodz · 11-14-2012, 02:47 PM

I agree,you got to drive as many of the cars in the same class as possible. Then decide which one best meets your needs and cash flow. I have drive most of the ones listed in thread and the Nismo rocks!

GelNapat · 10-23-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Think you would be better off in a GT-R if you wanted a Nissan.

I have the Nismo Z and 35 Gtr, I guess I'm lucky. But I like the Z better, the car really gives you that amazing "feeling"

Chuck33079 · 10-23-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GelNapat

I have the Nismo Z and 35 Gtr, I guess I'm lucky. But I like the Z better, the car really gives you that amazing "feeling"

That amazing feeling when you bump a year old thread?

Yes, you're very lucky if you own both a GTR and Z. Don't rub it in.

NissanGuy23 · 10-23-2013, 05:59 PM

Autoblog said they didn't like the base/sport Z, but loved the Nismo version. Its just one persons opinion but its worth reading. I personally love the Base/Sport/Nismo and would buy other trims in a heartbeat

First Drive: 2010 Nissan 370Z Nismo simply rocks - Autoblog

chii370 · 10-25-2013, 09:06 AM

I agree with the best handling car. But its not the best with feedback. It will do exactly what you tell it to do, but its a car you have to get a feel for. where as a car like a BRZ or cayman S just have that good connection with the driver. They dont handle any better, they just FEEL like they do. Great car, but if your on the ropes its not for you. Its a very unique platform, ether you hate it, or you love it. Everyone that owns a nismo swear by it, everyone that doesnt.... will talk it down. but its not a car you will "like or dislike" on a silly hour long test drive. since you even MENTIONED a vette in the same sentence as a 370z it sounds like your more interested in uncontrollable useless power and lots of noise, but then you mentioned a mini. which also has something in common to the vette, they are both made worse than a chinese plastic toy from 1985. If you want a shitty car, dont buy the Z.

theDreamer · 10-25-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

I agree with the best handling car. But its not the best with feedback. It will do exactly what you tell it to do, but its a car you have to get a feel for. where as a car like a BRZ or cayman S just have that good connection with the driver. They dont handle any better, they just FEEL like they do. Great car, but if your on the ropes its not for you. Its a very unique platform, ether you hate it, or you love it. Everyone that owns a nismo swear by it, everyone that doesnt.... will talk it down. but its not a car you will "like or dislike" on a silly hour long test drive. since you even MENTIONED a vette in the same sentence as a 370z it sounds like your more interested in uncontrollable useless power and lots of noise, but then you mentioned a mini. which also has something in common to the vette, they are both made worse than a chinese plastic toy from 1985. If you want a shitty car, dont buy the Z.

You were doing so well in this post and then you just veered off so quickly.
I hope you mention of the Corvette and Mini is from long extended first hand experience, since as you said it takes more than a short 1 hour test drive. Additionally, no one talks down on the Nismo, they say the value of the purchase could be obtained better through other sources.

Isamu · 10-25-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You were doing so well in this post and then you just veered off so quickly.
I hope you mention of the Corvette and Mini is from long extended first hand experience, since as you said it takes more than a short 1 hour test drive. Additionally, no one talks down on the Nismo, they say the value of the purchase could be obtained better through other sources.

as a NISMO owner, I can mostly attest to this.. only I paid for my NISMO what a sport model Z cost so I can't complain to much

Chuck33079 · 10-25-2013, 09:47 AM

I was under the impression that a C6 is lighter than a Z, makes more power than a Z and has more tire under it and pulls higher skidpad numbers. And for the price of a new Nismo, you're in "used Z06" territory.

FortuneLSX-TT · 10-25-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

as a NISMO owner, I can mostly attest to this.. only I paid for my NISMO what a sport model Z cost so I can't complain to much

Ditto. I don't know what all the fuss has ever been about. Don't think its worth the price, don't buy it.

For me, bigger rims, aero, suspension, and exhaust for 3k was not a bad option at all. I got mine new for 36 and a half. I don't see people complaining about all the Touring models being how much more for some leather.

Coincidentally, the argument "Why pay more for parts that you're going to replace" doesn't hold water either. You replace your exhaust on a base 370Z, and you've got some scrap metal? I was able to sell my Nismo exhaust to get my new exhaust for a fraction of the price.

Chuck33079 · 10-25-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FortuneLSX-TT

Ditto. I don't know what all the fuss has ever been about. Don't think its worth the price, don't buy it.

For me, bigger rims, aero, suspension, and exhaust for 3k was not a bad option at all. I got mine new for 36 and a half. I don't see people complaining about all the Touring models being how much more for some leather.

Coincidentally, the argument "Why pay more for parts that you're going to replace" doesn't hold water either. You replace your exhaust on a base 370Z, and you've got some scrap metal? I was able to sell my Nismo exhaust to get my new exhaust for a fraction of the price.

For that it makes sense. At $43k it's a harder sell.

chii370 · 10-25-2013, 10:58 AM

Comparing a mini and a vette to a nissan in build quality and reliability is apples and oranges. All that needs to be said there. I too sold my nismo exhaust for 500. Which means i bought a brand new ark dts for 900 bucks. But some people dont WANT to modify every single thing on their car. Yes u can get aftermarket parts a slight bit better than the nismo has at a fraction of the cost. But my TIME is worth the premium alone. Not only do u have to waste countless hours researching parts, setups, prices. Then u have to find a reliable place to install it using more valuable time and money. Even at 43 its still a damn good deal considering a sport with nav can nip on the heels of 40k. And dont even mention a convertable those are MORE. Its called price of convenience. I got a fantastic car, paid a fair price,and didnt have to do a damn thing but pick it up.

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10-25-2013, 09:47 AM	#27 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I was under the impression that a C6 is lighter than a Z, makes more power than a Z and has more tire under it and pulls higher skidpad numbers. And for the price of a new Nismo, you're in "used Z06" territory. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

10-25-2013, 10:58 AM	#30 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	Comparing a mini and a vette to a nissan in build quality and reliability is apples and oranges. All that needs to be said there. I too sold my nismo exhaust for 500. Which means i bought a brand new ark dts for 900 bucks. But some people dont WANT to modify every single thing on their car. Yes u can get aftermarket parts a slight bit better than the nismo has at a fraction of the cost. But my TIME is worth the premium alone. Not only do u have to waste countless hours researching parts, setups, prices. Then u have to find a reliable place to install it using more valuable time and money. Even at 43 its still a damn good deal considering a sport with nav can nip on the heels of 40k. And dont even mention a convertable those are MORE. Its called price of convenience. I got a fantastic car, paid a fair price,and didnt have to do a damn thing but pick it up. Last edited by chii370; 10-25-2013 at 11:02 AM.

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11-13-2012, 10:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	Different strokes for different folks. My base with sport still gives me wood every time I get into it.

11-14-2012, 11:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Zuppy51 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 95 Drives: 2010 PG Nismo #414 Rep Power: 15	Honestly, do what I did. Test drive "Similar Cars". Boxster, Cayman, Z4, etc. then drive the Nismo. Only then will you understand what makes it unique, and revered. Otherwise, well it's apples and oranges... BTW- Rusty, you have one bad *** car!

11-14-2012, 11:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
Armhunter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 338 Drives: 12 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 13	I thought more about this. My car goes right where I point it. The Nismo is awesome, the best handling car I have ever driven. I say go test drive it. An hour is not far!

10-23-2013, 05:59 PM	#23 (permalink)
NissanGuy23 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 36 Posts: 752 Drives: 09 370Z NISMO PG 6MT Rep Power: 15	Autoblog said they didn't like the base/sport Z, but loved the Nismo version. Its just one persons opinion but its worth reading. I personally love the Base/Sport/Nismo and would buy other trims in a heartbeat First Drive: 2010 Nissan 370Z Nismo simply rocks - Autoblog

10-25-2013, 09:06 AM	#24 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	I agree with the best handling car. But its not the best with feedback. It will do exactly what you tell it to do, but its a car you have to get a feel for. where as a car like a BRZ or cayman S just have that good connection with the driver. They dont handle any better, they just FEEL like they do. Great car, but if your on the ropes its not for you. Its a very unique platform, ether you hate it, or you love it. Everyone that owns a nismo swear by it, everyone that doesnt.... will talk it down. but its not a car you will "like or dislike" on a silly hour long test drive. since you even MENTIONED a vette in the same sentence as a 370z it sounds like your more interested in uncontrollable useless power and lots of noise, but then you mentioned a mini. which also has something in common to the vette, they are both made worse than a chinese plastic toy from 1985. If you want a shitty car, dont buy the Z.