Nismo VS New M3

FrancoPhoto · 05-04-2012, 08:51 AM

i live in a neighborhood where no kid works for their money , its just given to them by their parents so everyone here has an M3 S4 etc.

i was driving thru town the other day and came around a wide street sideways and there happen to be some rich kid with an M3 (new body) behind me , after he saw me do that he automatically thought i wanted to race so he rode my *** for sometime . i didn't do anything cuz i don't street race in town ( maybe a little on the highway) .

but it made me wonder how much faster that car actually is ?

its only 404 HP and nismo is 350

is it like night and day ? or for $40K did i buy the closest thing to an M power wise?

wind.zero · 05-04-2012, 10:01 AM

Not that I condone street racing or being given/gifted a new car but you are comparing cars that are not in the same class. Not really a fair match-up stock for stock IMO.

2012 MSRP $60,100 4.0-liter 414-hp/295-tq V-8 3704 lbs (taken from BMW USA)
Power to weight =1:8.9
versus
2012 MSRP $41,660 3.7-liter 350-hp/276-tq V-6 3314 lbs (taken from Nissan USA)
Power to weight = 1:9.5

Ask your parents to invest in FI and you will have a better chance assuming you can find sufficient traction.

My NISMO with the GTM Stage 1 SC on a Dynojet and the numbers are at the wheels:
3.7-liter 419-hp/350-tq V-6 ~3314 lbs
Power to weight = 1:7.9

Even with the GTM SC kit and all of the supporting mods, I am well under the price of admission from BMW for an M3.

Red__Zed · 05-04-2012, 10:35 AM

The m's are a bit quicker. They'll comfortably crack into the 12's stock (corrected times).

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Originally Posted by FrancoPhoto

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is it like night and day ? or for $40K did i buy the closest thing to an M power wise?

You can get closer

m4a1mustang · 05-04-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FrancoPhoto

after he saw me do that he automatically thought i wanted to race so he rode my *** for sometime .

I think BMW M3s are programmed to ride the *** of just about any other car, regardless of what you do or don't do.

Cmike2780 · 05-04-2012, 10:42 AM

M3 is a beast, but Nismo = eagle.....tough call.

Nikkolai · 05-04-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The m's are a bit quicker. They'll comfortably crack into the 12's stock (corrected times).

You can get closer

lol careful...

TerribleONE · 05-04-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by red__zed

the m's are a bit quicker. They'll comfortably crack into the 12's stock (corrected times).

You can get closer

5.no

MacLean · 05-04-2012, 12:58 PM

The M3 stock will spank the sh*t out of the stock Nismo. You are comparing apples to oranges here. A full loaded M3 is like 80k while a fully loaded Nismo is like maybe 44k. I would compare a Nismo to any 1 & 3 Series stock, but not the 1M or M3 if Nismo is stock. The 1M & M3 is in a whole different league.

Pauly · 05-04-2012, 01:03 PM

bmw drivers (most not all) are d-bags with ego problems. the ride the rear thing is just scratching the surface of the egotistical behavior of a typical bmw driver. i had one yesterday pass me on the interstate (i was going the speed limit) and as he passed the front of my car he swerved over so close that he took the bug guts off of the bumper, as if to say "hey look at me i drive a bmw". im always thinking "yea bmw, who cares, i didnt want that turd, i wanted this Z, so eat sh*t, guy". literally, you couldnt fit a sheet of paper between the two cars when he switched lanes.

m4a1mustang · 05-04-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly

bmw drivers (most not all) are d-bags with ego problems. the ride the rear thing is just scratching the surface of the egotistical behavior of a typical bmw driver. i had one yesterday pass me on the interstate (i was going the speed limit) and as he passed the front of my car he swerved over so close that he took the bug guts off of the bumper, as if to say "hey look at me i drive a bmw". im always thinking "yea bmw, who cares, i didnt want that turd, i wanted this Z, so eat sh*t, guy". literally, you couldnt fit a sheet of paper between the two cars when he switched lanes.

Yep. Tailgating and cutting people off... two of the staple moves from "average BMW M-guy."

bdavis89 · 05-04-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FrancoPhoto

i live in a neighborhood where no kid works for their money , its just given to them by their parents so everyone here has an M3 S4 etc.

i was driving thru town the other day and came around a wide street sideways and there happen to be some rich kid with an M3 (new body) behind me , after he saw me do that he automatically thought i wanted to race so he rode my *** for sometime . i didn't do anything cuz i don't street race in town ( maybe a little on the highway) .

but it made me wonder how much faster that car actually is ?

its only 404 HP and nismo is 350

is it like night and day ? or for $40K did i buy the closest thing to an M power wise?

No. You're looking for the new mustangs. Those things go toe to toe with the M3, from what I've read anyways.

m4a1mustang · 05-04-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

No. You're looking for the new mustangs. Those things go toe to toe with the M3, from what I've read anyways.

And if you think M3s give Zs a hard time... try driving around one in a 5.0.

Nikkolai · 05-04-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

And if you think M3s give Zs a hard time... try driving around one in a 5.0.

I hear you on that. I was pretty much left alone when I had my Nismo. Now I get picked on by Camaros, trucks, Challengers, Chargers, BMWs, etc.

m4a1mustang · 05-04-2012, 01:39 PM

I get picked on my M3s and the occasional Scion tC.

Red__Zed · 05-04-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikkolai

I hear you on that. I was pretty much left alone when I had my Nismo. Now I get picked on by Camaros, trucks, other Mustangs, BMWs, etc.

The worst is when you get tailgated by kids in their skateboards...got such an ego...it's like, I'm trying to get to work, not street race here.

And then they go flying past you like they own the road.

05-04-2012, 08:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
FrancoPhoto Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: queens NY Posts: 235 Drives: 2012 White Nismo 370 Rep Power: 14	Nismo VS New M3 i live in a neighborhood where no kid works for their money , its just given to them by their parents so everyone here has an M3 S4 etc. i was driving thru town the other day and came around a wide street sideways and there happen to be some rich kid with an M3 (new body) behind me , after he saw me do that he automatically thought i wanted to race so he rode my *** for sometime . i didn't do anything cuz i don't street race in town ( maybe a little on the highway) . but it made me wonder how much faster that car actually is ? its only 404 HP and nismo is 350 is it like night and day ? or for $40K did i buy the closest thing to an M power wise?

05-04-2012, 10:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
wind.zero Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The 49th State Posts: 296 Drives: NISMOSIS Rep Power: 14	Not that I condone street racing or being given/gifted a new car but you are comparing cars that are not in the same class. Not really a fair match-up stock for stock IMO. 2012 MSRP $60,100 4.0-liter 414-hp/295-tq V-8 3704 lbs (taken from BMW USA) Power to weight =1:8.9 versus 2012 MSRP $41,660 3.7-liter 350-hp/276-tq V-6 3314 lbs (taken from Nissan USA) Power to weight = 1:9.5 Ask your parents to invest in FI and you will have a better chance assuming you can find sufficient traction. My NISMO with the GTM Stage 1 SC on a Dynojet and the numbers are at the wheels: 3.7-liter 419-hp/350-tq V-6 ~3314 lbs Power to weight = 1:7.9 Even with the GTM SC kit and all of the supporting mods, I am well under the price of admission from BMW for an M3. Last edited by wind.zero; 05-04-2012 at 10:18 AM.

05-04-2012, 10:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	M3 is a beast, but Nismo = eagle.....tough call. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

05-04-2012, 01:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pauly Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lafayette, La Posts: 645 Drives: and parks Rep Power: 14	bmw drivers (most not all) are d-bags with ego problems. the ride the rear thing is just scratching the surface of the egotistical behavior of a typical bmw driver. i had one yesterday pass me on the interstate (i was going the speed limit) and as he passed the front of my car he swerved over so close that he took the bug guts off of the bumper, as if to say "hey look at me i drive a bmw". im always thinking "yea bmw, who cares, i didnt want that turd, i wanted this Z, so eat sht, guy". literally, you couldnt fit a sheet of paper between the two cars when he switched lanes. shayandude likes this. __________________ Gun Metallic* 2012 370 Z 7AT

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I get picked on my M3s and the occasional Scion tC. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

05-04-2012, 12:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
MacLean A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,589 Drives: '12 GM Nismo # 0445 Rep Power: 16	The M3 stock will spank the sh*t out of the stock Nismo. You are comparing apples to oranges here. A full loaded M3 is like 80k while a fully loaded Nismo is like maybe 44k. I would compare a Nismo to any 1 & 3 Series stock, but not the 1M or M3 if Nismo is stock. The 1M & M3 is in a whole different league.

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