Ahh Man...Mustang 5.0 swap???
 

Went with a friend to test drive mustangs. He was interested in a V-6 price fuel all that jazz...while I was there I decided to test drive a 5.0 auto. Don't know if I have become soft but it was comfy and the exhaust note sounds just right and the thing will snap your neck back. From a dead stop it seemed really slow, could be the 6 speed auto or it was that smooth and deceptive, don't really know. But off a roll, it will get up and go with authority. The V-6 mustang is as fast as the nismo... And I can drop reg in the 5.0 and the insurance is cheaper...??? Ahh Man...I think I may be getting back into a stang.

Its ok nobody is perfect :)

That's why I advise that people that want to keep enjoying their Z don't test drive Mustangs.

So you figured out that bigger motors tend to make more power? The v6 mustang isn't remotely in the same league as a nismo, don't kid yourself. There is a lot more to performance than "snapping your neck back".

Word. That's why I'd want a mustang. Even the V6 leaves the Nismo around a track.
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Really? The V6 Stang is as fast as the Nismo? Forget the fact that the V6 tops out at like 117mph it is in no way as fast or faster then any 370. I love CarandDriver but it has been proven that the Nismo they drove around in there Lightning lap was worn out (tires brakes etc) from being a slut for like a million other magazines.

What track are you talking about?!?!

Dig up a V6 or even a V8 "stang" and let's test this theory at Roebling or Road Atlanta. :icon17:

Got a source for the bolded part? I've heard that claim made, but I've never seen in backed up.

$35 to remove the rev limited. With it off, the v6 knocks several seconds off the lap time, pushing it well below 3:12.

i'm going to have to double check which episode it was but on Top Gear UK you catch a glimps of the 370's track time and the Roush 540 time, and IIRC the 370 was about the same around the their track as it was, so i don't think the v6 is going be be quicker then a Nismo on anyones track.

A V6 Mustang will not beat a 370z with the SP or a Nismo around a track. It lacks straight line and cornering abilities in objective terms, not to mention a slight disadvantage in weight (with the exception of the Nismo) and it is not like it has a better chassis than the Z either. This isn't fanboism, this is simply what is out there to be gathered from reviews and specs. Down in acceleration, braking, weight, and grip.

Now a 5.OH, that car is mightily impressive in many ways. It is INSANE what simple bolt ons can do for the GT.

Woahhhh fellas. Not doggin on anything just saying the stang, modern 2011 version, is quite impressive. A 2010 gt forget it. Ford did good with their 5.0. And im not talkin track times. Nismo comes in 350hp 0-60 in 5.3sec 1/4mile in 13.8 those times are the same as the v6 mustang as some people have indicated. The 5.0 comes in at 4.4sec and 12.7. IVE SEEN IT in plenty of reviews and really didnt care when i got my nismo. Just sayin after a test drive....wow.

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You serious?

3:12.0 - Nissan NISMO 370Z (2010)
3:12.5 - Ford Mustang V6 (2011)



The mustang lost over a second due to the speed limiter. Probably closer to two seconds.

Yup stock for stock the mustang got beat leave it at that...... Now when we have two cars fully done with all boltons and a good tune then the mustang can get a re match.
And it will be another replay..

I just pulled on the 2011 camero ss hard in third and he never had a chance.. NISMO FTW...

Wow man. You know what? Get rid of your Z and get a V6 Stang. Seems like thats what you want. I'm not going to sit here and do research to back my claim of the Z being beat to balls by several other mags. This was also the same Nismo I believe pulled off a 0-60 time of like 5.2 seconds and a mid 13 second quarter mile in CarandDriver mag and even they admitted the car was seeing signs a real bad abuse. If you really believe a V6 Stang is faster in any way especially around a track then a Z a car that was designed to be better the some Porches then you sir need to :gtfo2:

Cool, 1 less Z on the road, and 1 more of the tens of thousands of Mustangs on the road.

Now you can wave at 10-20 Mustangs a day as you pass them throughout your daily routine.

There is something to be said for exclusivity, this is why the mustang will always be a fail in my eyes.

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When it comes down the Z is a more nimble car where as the stang puts it down on the straights.
Now if you are a gearhead you would choose your own poison.
Most of us on the forums will go boost hopefully.
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/\ you'll need to change your username then, might I suggest Traitorracer, or perhaps, Failracer...:gtfo2:

This is a forum for everyone and just because some decide to go in another direction? Doesn't make them traitors or any less a good owner or person. I suggest that folks hold off on the name calling and such since it's only going to lead to the thread to be locked. I personally don't mind other brand owners as this is a forum for all enthusiast.

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thats funny, I was just reading an article that about a 2010 Mustang GT Premium vs 2009 370Z. here is the link
2010 Ford Mustang vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Comparison Test on Inside Line

There are a few of them rolling around Fort Hood / Killeen. I had one try to chase me down on the highway. Let's just say it was interesting to see his facial expression when I told him that i wasn't turbo'd yet when we stopped at the gas station, lol.

Boost incoming...........I can't wait to see some of these guys at the 1/4 mile strip when I get back. Hopefully, they will have opened the road course that they have been working on forever......

OP:

If Mustangs float your boat, then make the move. One of my boys is looking to get a 5.0 GT and we are usually pretty competitive. Our last rivalry was his '88 5.0 LX vs my '89 CA-powered S13. Should be fun.......

What Nismo you looking at? The 370z, Nismo or regular, is known to run 13.2-13.5 pretty consistently with even a published 13.1 for an automatic 370z. Yes, the 5.0 stang will run 12.7 to 12.9 all day but the V6 stang is a 14 sec car. I think only on the most perfect of days at the best prepped track with the best driver will you see a V6 stang dip into the 13's. The v6 stang is a respectable car for a change compared to previous 6cly mustangs, but a competitor with the 370z I think not. On the track forget it. The mustang v6 suspension is way too soft and has too much body roll. The Z, especially the Nismo, is much more capable in the turns.

Totally agree. But when people start saying stupud stuff like 117mph V6 Stangs are faster or as fast then a 370Z people get a little mad.

There is a world of difference between a 2010 Mustang GT and a 2011 Mustang GT. It's directly under the bonnet. :tiphat:

There is a little too much fanboyism going on on both sides here.

First, the V6 with the performance package (summer tires, GT suspension) can get very close to the GT's times on certain tracks where speeds don't exceed its limiter, and the GT is faster than the 370Z on most all road courses, so I don't think it's too far fetched to think the sport version of the V6 could be quicker than a NISMO on some tracks. Plus, we all know that outright speed doesn't really matter as the Z would be in limp mode after one lap without an oil cooler ;) :p.

Second, if you think the 370Z is "exclusive" you are sadly mistaken. What are the barriers to entry that make it "exclusive?" It's a very inexpensive sports car that anyone can buy. The correct word is rare. There are far fewer 370Zs than there are Mustangs around (~10,000 370Zs sold a year vs. ~30,000 Mustang 5.0s). There's absolutely nothing "exclusive" about a $30k car.

Third, everything Trips said is correct. Instead of bashing people for their choice of vehicle, focus on being happy with yours.

The v6 stang can probably "hang with" a Z, and I think the drivers will determine the winner. Start modding them both, it's cheaper to turn the v6 stang into a monster than it is the Z, and top end, mod-for-mod, the v6 Stang may hold the edge. Back down to earth, for the same money as a Nismo Z, you can get a GT, which will torch a Z around a track.

Bottom line, buy what you like. The Z is still a fantastic and fast car. The Mustang is simply as fast or faster. There's no shame in that.
:iagree: Rarity is nice, but it's also a sign that the Z won't be around much longer :(
Yep, Triple's was right on.

:iagree: and that's what I worry about. I know the bean counters at Nissan aren't too happy with the 370Z since they approved the project on the basis of selling 30k a year, so it makes you wonder if they are going to go ahead and invest in developing another Z or just throw in the towel. It's tough because its in a super competitive market. The $30-45k segment is tough... It's competing with Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Genesis, G37, etc.

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They may keep it around as a halo car. Like Mazda keeps producing RX-8's in small numbers to keep a rotary in the lineup, Nissan may choose to keep the Z in the lineup just to say "we still make a Z car". There have been periods where GM has taken massive losses in producing the Corvette, but they kept it around because they felt the PR hit was too great if they stopped production, even for a few years.

The GT-R is their halo car. That's the one that will stick around regardless of whether it makes money, IMO.

I think the Z could go the way or the dodo bird, they could keep it around in it's typical 2-seater configuration, or they could try to reinvent it as a 2+2 to compete better with the other 2+2s on the market. I hope they don't, but it's a definite possibility.

Then there's obviously Nissan's green initiative... I could see a hybrid Z or full electric Z in the near future. :/

Hopefully Nissan does not throw in the towel on the Z. It is an icon. The have the GT-R, but the Z is pretty much what defines NISSAN. Other than the Maxima and Altima, what is left?

I would be interested to see some of the Mustang owners once I return from "hell", just to get a grip on how great they are as opposed to the lowly Z (sarcasm). Maybe I will go to a Ford dealer and test drive one for giggles.............

The GT-R is "a" halo car. I'm unsure of whether they make profit on it or not. But the PR would be bad for Nissan to admit defeat and give up on the Z car.

It definitely could happen, but it would look bad.

The problem is I am not sure if Nissan cares about the Z's heritage. They are trying to push a very green lineup so I wouldn't be surprised to see them just use the name to help promote some new lame electric car. :/

I'm not sure if the PR would be too bad. To be honest, the press never gave the Z car that much attention to begin with.

Plus, like I said, with Nissan trying to reinvent itself as a future-looking, green brand, I think any good PR from that would outweigh whatever bad PR castrating the Z might bring.

I could see that, too, although I don't know if it would be a bad thing. If the car performs well, I don't care what's powering its wheels or if it has a gearbox.

Still, they're certainly not keeping it around because it's exclusive like the Reventon. The Nissan 370Z does not come with a helicopter delivery option or take prizes at the Concours D'Elegance. lol it weighs down showroom floors :roflpuke2:

Bottom line is we are a dying breed. Not by our own choice, and we probably haven't seen the peak yet, but I think we're very close to the end of the high-powered, gas slurping cars we love so much. This is why I am a big proponent of enjoying it while we still can instead of fanboy fighting like we tend to do on these forums. ;)

332 hp 3.7L, 412 hp 5.0... we're all going to end up in some 1.8L gas/electric hybrid nanny-mobile.

Drive like you stole the god damn thing, fellas. Enjoy it while you still can. ;)

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I agree with all of that.. I just got a new STi and it gets an awesome 17mpg :shakes head: but im going to drive the hell out of it!

agree to an extent. huge motor gas slupring cars are coming to an end at some point. But that doesnt mean that all future cars will be nanny-mobiles.

There is obviously still a large enough demand for faster/exciting cars. Mustangs, STI, EVO, Corvettes, CTS-V, Porsche, etc that the exciting cars will not die off.

Sure it may be a 2.5 liter with some awesome technology that produces a ton of hp with low gas consumption, or a hybrid that is a torque monster, or even a pure electric that goes like hell.

If anything it seems that at some point people started getting more attached to the Big Engine Number vs the actual experience of driving the car. Aka, its a 6.3 liter oh baby yeah vs.. This car is awesome to drive.

One thing that will be missed personally though is the sound that the big v8's can make.. I still miss the sound my GTO made.

I could definitely see that happening.