nismo Vs base/sport

andre12031948

As far as the tune, the H.P. gain is at the engine, not at the wheels. I THINK a Osires uprev tune can add more H.P. than that factory one. When mods like test pipes or exhaust or just about any mod is added, the Osires tune woulds make even more sense. With a custom tune you can also have your redline raised.

Isamu

huh? think about what you wrote, and then hit yourself in the head with a book.. and then re-write it...

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zae757

I'm just confused as others with the comparison of the Nismo to the base or sports models. I understand one comes with 18 more hp and other doesn't but with the money you save, you can be equal or even more hp than the Nismo. You can also do your tune, suspension, bodykit, etc and still possibly save money vs buying the Nismo. Can someone please explain it to me because I'm not seeing the reason to have a Nismo vs a sport model 370?

Especially if you or most Nismo owners decide to take everything they paid extra for off and replace it with aftermarket parts, what's the point of purchasing the Nismo? Is the tag on the back of the car?

MJB

So it doesn't make sense to you why we bought a Nismo huh? Well, some people wonder why buy a Z when you could get a car like the 5.0 for the same price, that could outperform the Z all day. Its called personal preference you moron.

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zae757

Touchy touchy, it was just a general question. Was it something that drew you to it is mainly what I'm asking. Plus I wanted a car that you don't see too much on the road. I always see 5.0's, Camaro's, vettes, challengers, etc (muscle cars) and I didn't want to be like everyone else. I love the look of all 370Z's, nismo or not, just curious why buy a Nismo? It's not like buying a V6 mustang or Camaro, then I'd understand the 5.0 or SS...

MJB

No, don't play innocent, you posted the same stupid comment in another thread, and posted a quote from like 2 years ago bashing the Nismo. I just don't understand why ask why? Its personal preference plain and simple. Why do I have to explain that to somebody? Last time I checked, its my money and I don't have to answer to anybody about any purchases I make. Sorta like me asking you why you bought your wheels. I honestly think they are fugly... but you like them and who the hell am I to ask why you bought them?
Time to close this stupid thread.

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zae757

That's real...lol different strokes for different folks. Real rap though, never heard someone say the wheels didn't match the car. Lol don't get in your feelings my dude. I like the look of your car, never really seen a ugly Z regardless of the cosmetic difference...but your good

FortuneLSX-TT

Nope... no tag there. So that must not be it.

And it sounds like you get confused easily. The concept that people bought the Nismo for something other than just the 18 extra hp seems to elude you. The concept that you can actually sell your Nismo parts to non-Nismo owners for money seems to still escape you as well. Numbers also don't seem to be your friend. You also seem to have a great deal of trouble differentiating between your OPINION and FACT.

I would love to see how you would do a tune, suspension, body kit, rims/tires, exhaust and be cheaper than the Nismo.

Again, none of your "I bought my car USED for $27k" so I'm going to compare that price to the MSRP of the Nismo. As MJB said... don't try and come in here and play innocent. If you don't like the Nismo so much, why do you keep posting in the Nismo sub forum?

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Elan

Cause we get an epic wing and you don't. Nah nah nah boo boo.

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mmendez

Dude, cars are like woman, you have the one that you like, feels your needs, and can afford. In my case the Nismo was my poison...

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Isamu

the tune only gets you hp at the engine? engine hp translates into wheel HP...

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andre12031948

The Nismo/Nissan H.P is taken at the engine, so the 18(I believe is the number?) extra H.P that the Nismo reports would be much less on all the dynos we use that read H.P at the wheels. Got it???? No need to apologize

Isamu

The numbers are taken are BHP, but it still translates to more power to the wheels. Your statement makes it sound as tho, you would only gain BHP and no wheel hp... got it?


the base Z is the same way incase you were still unsure of yourself

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andre12031948

That EVERYBODY here knows that MUCH H.P is lost when they get to the rear wheels. Clutch/disk, trans, drive shaft, gears, axles, tires, wheels, brake size/weight & I'm sure more are the reason why we dyno at the wheels.

I guess I was wrong about EVERYONE understanding that. So 18h.p at the engine is NOT that much.

FortuneLSX-TT

I'm pretty sure we dyno at the wheels because taking our engines out of the car and hooking them up to an engine dyno is not exactly a very cost effective measure. Dynos are useful for tuning. The track is useful for proving who is actually the fastest. My numbers fluctuate by a ridiculous number from dyno to dyno and day to day. Dynos are a useful indicator of performance gained, but by no means are they the end all be all of performance. I thought everyone knew that one.

Secondly, peak numbers only tell a fraction of the story. The area under the curve, and getting that power to the ground effectively matter a lot more. So a car with more power can still lose to a car with less power. Everything else being equal, then yes the car with ONLY 18 extra bhp will still win.

Does the drive train lose power? Yes. Does 18bhp matter to some people? Without a doubt it does. If 18hp wasn't that much of a gain then why do some people bother getting an intake or a test pipe or whatever other mod that ONLY gets them a few rwhp.

It still baffles me to no end, why does everyone think that owning a Nismo means you are not allowed to change any part ever?

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