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just saying, no nismo part is better than an aftermarket part you can get for MUCH LESS and performs BETTER. If somebody selects a nismo in the first place, they

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just saying, no nismo part is better than an aftermarket part you can get for MUCH LESS and performs BETTER. If somebody selects a nismo in the first place, they OBVIOUSLY must enjoy the nismo exhaust, springs and other opinions that are not available on the NON-NISMO OPINIONS. So why invest that much money on Nismo parts when you can spend much less on better quality. The nismo exhaust is not the greatest, the springs are not the greatest and the rims are not the greatest.... NOR the intakes. You can upgrade a sports package or a base Z and still end up spending less that purchasing a nismo. Unless you live in Montana, a decent shop is NOT hard to find. The hassle of spending 15 minutes online and reading 15 companies reviews and checking out local shops through forums from word to mouth is a simple task and if that is a problem then life must be really good to you where effort doesn't exist. I will even cut you a break and disclose my list of goodies.

Spec-S Full Aero
Shine Auto Project
Front Bumper 300
Side Skirts 350
Rear Bumper 200
850

Peachtree Paint Shop
Located in Douglasville
Roof 170
F. Bumper Blk 50
R. Bumper Blk 50
Kit painted Red 350
620

Exhaust,Springs, Intake
ERZ performance - Performance car parts , Auto Accessories - 404 Error
Invidia Race Pipes 200
EiBach Springs 235
435

Z1 motorsports
Z1 370Z/G37 SS Test Pipes
test pipes 250
Stillen Headers 560
Stillen Exhaust 1262
Stillen gen 3 intake 550
lightweight pulley 190
Oil Cooler Kit 398
Short throw shifter 165
3375

TOTAL: 5,280.00
MSRP BASE: 29,000

TOTAL:34,280

Compare the 34k to the 40k nismo. 6k savings, you can buy a Stillen supercharger kit. Compare the parts disclosed above with what you get with NISMO. You get better parts replacing nismo parts and PLUS Additional parts as show above. I don't mean to offend anybody but just making a point because I don't believe you have to be fortunate to purchase a nismo as stated in the previous post. The reason Nissan doesn't make many is because of simple SUPPLY AND DEMAND. I promise you if Nissan had 1 million pre-purchased NISMO's they would indeed product 1 million. I had the opinion of a Nismo but thought it wouldn't be a great idea since I would be modding an already overrated MODDED car. Why mod a car that you purchased modded for THOUSANDS MORE than base??? makes absolutely no since.
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just saying, no nismo part is better than an aftermarket part you can get for MUCH LESS and performs BETTER. If somebody selects a nismo in the first place, they OBVIOUSLY must enjoy the nismo exhaust, springs and other opinions that are not available on the NON-NISMO OPINIONS. So why invest that much money on Nismo parts when you can spend much less on better quality. The nismo exhaust is not the greatest, the springs are not the greatest and the rims are not the greatest.... NOR the intakes. You can upgrade a sports package or a base Z and still end up spending less that purchasing a nismo. Unless you live in Montana, a decent shop is NOT hard to find. The hassle of spending 15 minutes online and reading 15 companies reviews and checking out local shops through forums from word to mouth is a simple task and if that is a problem then life must be really good to you where effort doesn't exist. I will even cut you a break and disclose my list of goodies.

Spec-S Full Aero
Shine Auto Project
Front Bumper 300
Side Skirts 350
Rear Bumper 200
850

Peachtree Paint Shop
Located in Douglasville
Roof 170
F. Bumper Blk 50
R. Bumper Blk 50
Kit painted Red 350
620

Exhaust,Springs, Intake
ERZ performance - Performance car parts , Auto Accessories - 404 Error
Invidia Race Pipes 200
EiBach Springs 235
435

Z1 motorsports
Z1 370Z/G37 SS Test Pipes
test pipes 250
Stillen Headers 560
Stillen Exhaust 1262
Stillen gen 3 intake 550
lightweight pulley 190
Oil Cooler Kit 398
Short throw shifter 165
3375

TOTAL: 5,280.00
MSRP BASE: 29,000

TOTAL:34,280

Compare the 34k to the 40k nismo. 6k savings, you can buy a Stillen supercharger kit. Compare the parts disclosed above with what you get with NISMO. You get better parts replacing nismo parts and PLUS Additional parts as show above. I don't mean to offend anybody but just making a point because I don't believe you have to be fortunate to purchase a nismo as stated in the previous post. The reason Nissan doesn't make many is because of simple SUPPLY AND DEMAND. I promise you if Nissan had 1 million pre-purchased NISMO's they would indeed product 1 million. I had the opinion of a Nismo but thought it wouldn't be a great idea since I would be modding an already overrated MODDED car. Why mod a car that you purchased modded for THOUSANDS MORE than base??? makes absolutely no since.

If you opt for the regular 370z with no sport yea you can get it for 29k (but not 29k OTD). But when you add the sport package in which most buyers do, it will not be 29k. A base with sport here in Chicago goes for 35-36k OTD. A nismo will go for 41-42k OTD.

Aftermarket body parts usually has fitment issues. Even the Amuse rear bumper has fitment issues. The crack between the bumper and trunk is much larger than what you would find from a stock car. Looks is subjective. In my opinion, no aftermarket body kit looks better than the nismo.

The topic has already been beat down. People do not buy the nismo just for the exhaust. It is more than just the exhaust. It is the body kit you get with the great fitment. The rims that comes with it are gorgeous. Quality aftermarket rims + tires already will run you 4-5k. I am sure if you read all the comments from the nismo owners here, they will tell you they did not get it just for the exhaust.
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There are two types of 370z owners, those who love the nismo and think it's worth it, and those who don't.

Neither side can/or will be swayed by the other, as evidenced in this thread. If you are not sure if you want a nismo or think it's worth it, my guess is it's probably not for you and you should go w/another model.

Me and the wifey love our nismo and it was the only 370z we even considered. (briefly thought about a 40th anni, but when seen next to the nismo in person, no contest).

Aero/bodykit on the nismo is functional, not for show and fitment is oem. Wheels are great and on par w/ any RAYS/volk aftermarket, suspension, for a non adjustable/coilover setup is about as good as your going to get for track use.

Could it use more power? Yes
Could it have better brakes? Yes
Could it use and Oil Cooler? Yes

But any Z you get needs those things and quite frankly, just about any "street car" no matter how "sporty" is going to need at least 2 out of those three things as well.

We have zero regets getting the nismo and if we were to do it all over again, we'd have the same car sitting in the garage. Regardless of what you choose, as long as that's how you feel, you've made the right choice.

At the end of the day we're all Z enthusiasts and that's the most important thing.

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just saying, no nismo part is better than an aftermarket part you can get for MUCH LESS and performs BETTER. If somebody selects a nismo in the first place, they OBVIOUSLY must enjoy the nismo exhaust, springs and other opinions that are not available on the NON-NISMO OPINIONS. So why invest that much money on Nismo parts when you can spend much less on better quality. The nismo exhaust is not the greatest, the springs are not the greatest and the rims are not the greatest.... NOR the intakes. You can upgrade a sports package or a base Z and still end up spending less that purchasing a nismo. Unless you live in Montana, a decent shop is NOT hard to find. The hassle of spending 15 minutes online and reading 15 companies reviews and checking out local shops through forums from word to mouth is a simple task and if that is a problem then life must be really good to you where effort doesn't exist. I will even cut you a break and disclose my list of goodies.

Spec-S Full Aero
Shine Auto Project
Front Bumper 300
Side Skirts 350
Rear Bumper 200
850

Peachtree Paint Shop
Located in Douglasville
Roof 170
F. Bumper Blk 50
R. Bumper Blk 50
Kit painted Red 350
620

Exhaust,Springs, Intake
ERZ performance - Performance car parts , Auto Accessories - 404 Error
Invidia Race Pipes 200
EiBach Springs 235
435

Z1 motorsports
Z1 370Z/G37 SS Test Pipes
test pipes 250
Stillen Headers 560
Stillen Exhaust 1262
Stillen gen 3 intake 550
lightweight pulley 190
Oil Cooler Kit 398
Short throw shifter 165
3375

TOTAL: 5,280.00
MSRP BASE: 29,000

TOTAL:34,280

Compare the 34k to the 40k nismo. 6k savings, you can buy a Stillen supercharger kit. Compare the parts disclosed above with what you get with NISMO. You get better parts replacing nismo parts and PLUS Additional parts as show above. I don't mean to offend anybody but just making a point because I don't believe you have to be fortunate to purchase a nismo as stated in the previous post. The reason Nissan doesn't make many is because of simple SUPPLY AND DEMAND. I promise you if Nissan had 1 million pre-purchased NISMO's they would indeed product 1 million. I had the opinion of a Nismo but thought it wouldn't be a great idea since I would be modding an already overrated MODDED car. Why mod a car that you purchased modded for THOUSANDS MORE than base??? makes absolutely no since.
ok now actually get some body parts that are aerodynamically tested and ae actually functional...throw in only 1500+/- made so far...and what wheels did you say are better than 19x9.5 and 10.5 that each weigh in at 21/23...and if you think your right about supply and demand why do they make limited amount of s2000 CR which im sure a lot of ppl would want...or limited amount of porsche spyder/cayman r....im sure porsche ppl could afford it and would love it...ohhhhh its to be in a more limited group and have jealous people hate...but its ok...i love my nismo and i get nothing but ppl staring and telling me how nice it is compared to a base 370...ohhh and i forgot are you running the stock brakes? lol and stock 18's?
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I finally got a chance to address this post.

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Spec-S Full Aero
Shine Auto Project
Front Bumper 300
Side Skirts 350
Rear Bumper 200

Peachtree Paint Shop
Located in Douglasville
Roof 170
F. Bumper Blk 50
R. Bumper Blk 50
Kit painted Red 350
You cannot compare the Authentic Nismo kit with the longer nose front bumper and upgraded diffuser, sides, full rear bumper, and spoiler to any replica kit. The NISMO will still carry alot of it's value for years to come, the replica not so much.

Front Bumper with diffuser - $800
Sideskirts - $500
Rear bumper - $800
Spoiler - $900

Paint - Front bumper $300-$400, sides $300, rear $400, install for all three $200 typically what you will pay from a quality shop.
($1,300 at least total)

The rest of the items you were missing, and should also be highlighted because they are important to nerds like me.

-Akebono Brakes Typically $1,800 to $2,000 installed

-350hp engine Would take an install of intakes and exhaust to get close to this level. Currently $1,400 for quality parts of either

-NISMO-tuned dual exhaust with H-pipe configuration

$1,400 to purchase separately with $300 for the H-Pipe

-Nismo branded seats Would have to be custom made ($400+ per seat)

-Nismo floor mats $75

-Nismo Tachometer $700 - $800

-NISMO smooth leather-wrapped steering wheel $300 to get wrapped by an upholsterer

-NISMO smooth leather-wrapped shift knob $150

-NISMO signature red interior stitching $300+ from an upholsterer

-NISMO-tuned suspension with increased spring, dampening and stabilizer rates - $1,000

-NISMO reinforced 3-point front strut tower brace $200

-NISMO front and rear performance body dampers
- $400 each = $800 total

-SynchroRev & VLSD (included) $1,400 for VLSD by itself

--Special Edition RAYS wheels - $3,000

If you had built your car to the level of what the NISMO already includes (like I have tried to do with my Z33) it becomes a better value to just buy the NISMO instead and add a few mods afterwards IMO

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You can find a brand new nismo anytime anywhere? Granted if you want to travel or ship it I suppose you could. Where I'm at there are only 3. And you must have the luck of the irish to have good shops all over the place, with professional people that will take care of your car like it was theirs. How much down time is that anyways for all those mods... We all know its not a huge difference in greatness over a regular Z but it is a little better for the stuff you do get, hence the price and yes there probably are other parts that are better than the nismo parts but its a complete package. Not this part from this place and that from that place. Like stated before you can add all the better parts to your base Z and it won't be worth anything. You may have a better handling or faster Z in the end but you will have wasted even more money because the aftermarket parts you did throw on aren't worth a flip when you go to trade or sell. WE NISMO owners KNOW a better faster car can be had and they should have made a bigger difference which I'm sure would have cost even more $$$. But for what it is, with what it comes with...... We didn't over pay for just a body kit. Again is the nismo worth it....YES. Is it for you? That's something else.
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You can find a brand new nismo anytime anywhere? Granted if you want to travel or ship it I suppose you could. Where I'm at there are only 3. And you must have the luck of the irish to have good shops all over the place, with professional people that will take care of your car like it was theirs. How much down time is that anyways for all those mods... We all know its not a huge difference in greatness over a regular Z but it is a little better for the stuff you do get, hence the price and yes there probably are other parts that are better than the nismo parts but its a complete package. Not this part from this place and that from that place. Like stated before you can add all the better parts to your base Z and it won't be worth anything. You may have a better handling or faster Z in the end but you will have wasted even more money because the aftermarket parts you did throw on aren't worth a flip when you go to trade or sell. WE NISMO owners KNOW a better faster car can be had and they should have made a bigger difference which I'm sure would have cost even more $$$. But for what it is, with what it comes with...... We didn't over pay for just a body kit. Again is the nismo worth it....YES. Is it for you? That's something else.
thats why you sell the aftermarket parts on the FORSALE section . You at least make 30-70 percent of your original investment back.

also if you were to buy all the parts at the same time, IM definitely positive the company could slide a discount or deal in there for you considering the extent of the products your purchased.

The items I listed I all bolt on and that means BOLT OFF. So at the end of the day, say you spend 10k...you may get back 3-7 grand depending on condition. Lose value by standard depreciation which is less in a Z than a NISMO.

Buy a set of Venaci wheels for 3-4 grand and you can easily get 2500-3000 back. Of course your going to say, why mod the car knowing your going to lose 500 to a grand on the wheels....SAME THING I ASK NISMO OWNERS...why spend 40k and then a year later its down to 30k. Ratio is WAY MORE but I guess the modded Z loses yet again against the monster NISMO.
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