ur right, i am sure he purchased the car from the dealer, because i called the dealer and he confirmed that the uy bought the car.

In either case, I'm surprised there was no insurance at all. When bought my car ca (in NY) I needed proof of insurance before I could leave the lot. Something doesn't add up.

Those laws probably vary state to state, but yes, I had to have proof of insurance as well before I left the dealership.

(Side story: they let me use one of their computers and I was so excited I went to sit down on the very edge of the leather chair at the desk. It was a really slick leather. To the floor I fell, right on my butt. :rofl2:)

Banks require prof of insurance, not dealerships.

So if you pay cash, technically you really don't need to prove that you have insurance.

I know you'll do whatever you want, and I understand they do things differently where you are, but I would strongly advise calling the local Police Dept. to get things figured out.

I would think especially if its a dealer to dealer sale.

the problem is that he bought the car personaly with my money!

and he insured for 10 days only, because he was planing to ship the car ASAP.

the last update now, is that i will talk to him in this weekend. and i will see how much he can pay, and the rest of the amount he will pay them to monthly.

i will call the police station, and thanx for providing me the no.

i need your prayers guys. :(

Good luck, bro. I hope everything works out and you are able to get all of your money back quickly.

i have a question,

does an email agreement considered as a legal agreement in the US?

Coz i will send the guy an email written in it that he will pay for me the amount as a monthly installments. and i will make him acknowledge the email!

i hope anybody is a lawyer here!!

best way to do it here is to send him an email form of the agreement clearly stating all terms, late payment penalties, who pays the transfer fees for the money, things like that have him print it, take to a bank here and have it signed and notorized then have him mail it to you Notorization here means that a witness an official and him all sign it and then the press a steel die into the paper to certify beyond a doubt this his @$$ really did sign it and then you have him by the balls if he decides to bail on the aggreement.

man very sad to see this thread as just saw it now :(

I bought mine from Texas but as this was my second purchase i bought it from nissan dealership as mine was a trade-in car, but they sent me the invoice and then i wire the money to them and then they sent me bill of sale and other papers

rest was easy getting a shipper picking then car and ship it to dubai

Did you ask him to send you the copy of bill of sale even if it was in his name?

thanx man,

i need some one in GA to tell me if his story tru that 3 cars was stolen, they were parked out side this dealer: ATL Autos, 3901 Hwy 78, Snellville, GA, Used Cars for Sale, (770) 736-6050

and i need someone also who have a friend or a relative that working in CREST CADILLAC AND HUMMER IN Alabama. just to confirm if the car was bought by my friend or no!!

I will say the same first check the Bill of sale from your friend, stolen or not stolen is after that. You need to be sure there are a sale in the first place

any body work in Nissan USA here?

this is the car VIN: deleted for privace

2009 Black 370z

MAYBE they can trace it since it got the SAT/NAV Option.

i need to know if its realy stolen or no!

Ahmed,

I just looked at an updated CarFax report on this VIN# for you.

ON 8/18/10 the car was offered up for sale at Gwinnett Place Nissan in Duluth, Georgia. It has 8,823 miles on the odometer as of the 18th of this month.

It looks like the car wasn't stolen after all. I fear you may have been scammed.

Ahmed, when you gave your payment to the guy that was buying your car, did you also include money to cover any other charges like shipping?

If you were scammed it would probably only be worthwhile for these guys to do it if you paid extra fees on top of the value of the car... that way they could take your money, buy the car, sell it, and pocket whatever extra cash they had left (basically their profit would be the export/shipping fees, finder's fee, and any other charges they might add on to the top of the price of the car itself).

Not really sure what else you can do right now to try and get your money back. Hopefully someone here with some more insight can chime in with some help, but it might be a good idea to try and get in contact with some local lawyers and see if they can advise you.

he took 2000 for shipping and 500 his profit.

i really dont know what to do now!

i just spoke with him yesterday, he told me that he will try to collect the money. i think he will sell it for higher price and and get me my same money back!

or even he might not return any cent!

i should talk to lawyer in the US who have experience in these things!

can you please send me the copy of the car fax record to my email.

abocheery@gmail.com

thanx

I think check with lawyers even in bahrain, usually they do have branches worldwide.

And dont let that guy know, that you know he sold the car, as you might be right, he will make some profit and then will send you money as he has taken a loan. So in the end he made a profit along with sympathy from your side.

yes, exactly. that why i will wait and give him more time.

and later once i receive the money, i will let him play the game with my rules.

but if he will not send anything, i will have to go to a lawyer :(

Check your e-mail. :tup:

I agree with docaam... check to see what a local lawyer could do for you. I'm sure they have dealt with international fraud cases and know the best course of action for you to take.

thanx for the email.

i will give him a chance of 2 weeks and if he wont send me anything. i will go to a lawyer.

Honestly, I wouldn't wait that long. At the very least get into e-mail contact with a lawyer and see if they are able to offer you a bit of advice, just do you can plan ahead.

If legal action is necessary the longer you wait the least likely it is that you'll be able to get your money back.

And I would still demand to see copies of the sale paperwork from the Alabama dealership where the guy originally bought the car.

i called crest cadillac and hummer!! but they refused to give me anything!!

they say the need a legal enforcement, to give me something from their records :shakes head:

Ahmed - the longer you wait, the less chance that you will get one cent back. Get a lawyer. Now! Every day you wait, or do not file a Police Report in the USA, decreases the chance you will get anything back. Good luck!

So, if you send $30k+ to someone overseas, with no legal contracts, there is a chance you may be scammed?! :eek:

Get a ******* lawyer already!!!!

i found a lawyer in my country, he have partners in the US!

we will raise a claim.

But the weird thing, the guy told me that he sent for me 7500 USD to my bank account and he need time to send the rest!! i will check my bank account soon!

and he still dont know that i know that the car was not stolen!

i have two choices!
1- wait until he send me the full money and i act like i dont now that he's lying!
2-i go to the lawyer and let him deal with it!!

i really dont know why he's doing this! :(

I know this story is sounding more like a scam than anything else.

The law enforcement agency I work for has a website that shows you the calls/crimes on thier web site. The CAD (computer assisted dispatch) program updates it live. Unfortunately the Snellville Dept. must be small and I didn't see any such program on thier site. However I did see this on thier WEBSITE:

Reports
Copies of Incident Reports and Accident Reports may be obtained in-person (or by mail),
Monday through Friday
7:00am to 5:00pm
$5.00 per Incident Report
$5.00 per Accident Report ($15.00 for private property accident reports)
(CASH ONLY)

Maybe you can see if the crime was reported, and if so get a copy of the police report. Also you should be able to call the police department and give them that VIN and ask them if it has been entered as stolen. I know our department will tell you if it's stolen or not. They may not give you personal info about the registered owner and stuff like that but at least you'll know if he's BSing you based on that. Also, if English is not your first language most police call takers have access to language translation services. They need it for 911 calls.

Hope that helps.

i know now that the car was not stolen! he scammed me!

thanx to carfax!

he bought the car for me and he's trying to resell it now in the states!

QUESTION!

When an individual want to show his car in a dealer (to sell the car) in the states, the car will be registered by the dealer name or the individual name?

I'm sorry about what is happening. It's people like these who makes me want to drop kick them in the face.

whats the update Ahmed?

If the dealer purchases the car then the dealership owns the title (but the car is not registered). If an individual is using a dealership to help sell the car on consignment then the owning individual still owns the title.

sounds like this dude wanted the car and since he couldnt get a loan to buy a car similar he told you its been stolen so he can pay you for it without involving a bank. Who would do that? who would pay someone 30+ K if they wernt leagally forced!? Because even though its not there fault it was stolen, they feel bad so they will just give you 30k!? It sounds like hes taking advantage that your in another country and he realizes you probably dont have the details to do much and by saying you will eventually get your money back you wont involve the law. HES PLAYING YOU!!!!!!

hii! well, i know he's playing me!

i think he needed the money, thats why he sold the car.

anyways he sent me 7500 USD last weeks :shakes head:

remaining amount is 24500! he told me to wait, so he can arrange for payment. coz now he dont have any cash!

well, in the mean while i am trying to collect evidence on him! encase he refused to pay. and i went to a lawyer! a decent lawyer will charge me around 9000 USD!!

so, i will try first to collect as much cash as i can! from the guy by my self.

:S the only thing that making me sad, that i am really need a car. and i cant buy one!

Hey Bro this is off topic but looking at the pics in your profile I recognize the building in the back round. How far are you from AL Faris 2 or AL Jazer(not sure if I spelled that right.) Just trying to make a mental picture of some of the building in your back round is all. Like I said I was stationed out there for like 7 months and i loved it. Very fun place and I will never ride go-carts again here in the states lol. Sorry to go off topic just was wondering and I got all excited since I had such a good time in your country.
Frank

hii!!! all the pictures was taken in my house!!!

in which country you was stationed? Bahrain?

Just read the story man that sucks. Everyone has been scammed atleast once in their life. That is a ton of cash to loose, Karma will get this guy in the end.

I pray for you that you eventually get your cash back, it could possibly be that he used your cash to finance a few other car deals. He used your cash to make himself more cash, the fact he sent you anything and didn't tell you to get lost probably means you will get 75% of your cash back.

IMO if you ever wanted to do that deal again you could find someone honest on this site that would do the deal for you, and not scam you.

your right, i guess next time i will buy a car straight from a good reputation dealer. i think Docaam's can advise me!