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FL 4Motion 11-12-2023 06:23 AM

Back in a Z once again.
 
Well, I’ve been on this forum from almost the very beginning and the wife and I have owned quite a number of Nissan sports cars over the decades including 2 Nismo 370z’s. However, we moved away from our JDM sports cars around 7 years ago and embraced my love for Teutonic power (ala the four rings: Audi). I grew up loving fast Audi’s and VWs and for the last 5 1/2 years, we’ve been rocking a MKIII 8s TT RS as our sports car.

Well, with the warranty 6 months away from being done and the direction and future of the car at a crossroads, we decided it was the best move to trade it in and go back to my other love (and my wife’s first love), the Z. It didn’t hurt that the TT RS held its value incredibly well.

So without further ado, I’m proud to introduce our new addition to the stable, a 2024 RZ34 Nismo in stealth gray. We’ve affectionately named him “baby shark”. :icon17:

I’ll miss the Audi but no regerts ;), it feels like coming home to be back in a Z again and first impressions of the new nismo are excellent, it exceeded our expectations. We’ve got break in to get thru before I can give a real review of how it compares to both the TT RS and our old 370 Nismos.

I’ll be posting some pictures of the new Z later.

Oh, and for the love of god, mods/ak whoever is listening and has the power, pls rename the new Z section to RZ34 or refreshed Z or anything better than 400z. :icon14:

FL 4Motion 11-12-2023 06:24 AM

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ZontheRocks 11-13-2023 05:41 AM

Looking forward to your insight on the new Nismo.

cv129 11-13-2023 05:00 PM

Congrats, patiently waiting for pictures!

FL 4Motion 11-13-2023 06:32 PM

I have no fvcking clue why some of the pics are upside down or sideways. :icon14:

They were all correct on my phone and iPad. :confused:

FL 4Motion 11-13-2023 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 4046988)
Looking forward to your insight on the new Nismo.

You’re local, you could check it out in person sometime if you wanted. :tup:

Rusty 11-13-2023 07:03 PM

:tup: Nice.

SteveVQ 11-15-2023 03:02 PM

Congrats man! Great spec! Wow, didn't think the Nismo's were in dealerships yet.

Considering the price tag / mark ups (if any). Did you cross shop anything else or did you already make up your mind you were getting a new Nismo Z no matter what?

Gonna take her to OSW after break-in or any other race track stuff ?

Congrats again :tup:

gr8-wrx 11-15-2023 05:29 PM

Congrats!

In your case, I'd advocate for a 420Z section :)

FL 4Motion 11-16-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveVQ (Post 4047056)
Congrats man! Great spec! Wow, didn't think the Nismo's were in dealerships yet.

Considering the price tag / mark ups (if any). Did you cross shop anything else or did you already make up your mind you were getting a new Nismo Z no matter what?

Gonna take her to OSW after break-in or any other race track stuff ?

Congrats again :tup:

Thank you. :tiphat: Yeah, the first Nismos started trickling in about 2-3 weeks ago. The west coast folks got a handful around that time, ours came in last week, it’s one of the first. There are 400 Nismos coming stateside between now and this coming February fyi.

I’ve never paid over sticker for anything and I plan on keeping that streak going as long as possible;) (until we finally get an RS Porsche, no getting around markups there, but that’s a ways off).

Price wise, imo the Z and Z Nismo prices (at Msrp) are fair and in-line with historical price structure. If you look at the 350z or 370z prices and then adjust them for inflation, $54k for a fully loaded regular Z is fair and $66-$68ishK Msrp for a nismo is also fair. We didn’t cross shop anything else bc wife and I are diehard Z and GTR peeps. I also love fast Audis so it was either keep the TT RS or get the Z Nismo.

The Nismo is not a glorified body kit like the last gen, everything was touched on this car: all bushings upgraded including engine mounts, oil cooler, diff cooler, transmission cooler, trans programmed for 20-40% faster shifts, they added extra friction disks to each clutch pack for better heat tolerance, the wheels are incredible in person with perfect offsets (almost perfectly flush, but not quite), better brakes, functional aero, recaros, etc.

On 91 octane, most independent testers are getting 0-60 in 3.9 and 12.0 1/4 mile @ 115. Nismo engineers have said the car loses 30 hp on 91, it was made for 93 and on 93, they are confident it’ll run in the high 11s. That’s not too shabby imo.

Is it worth the money? For us absolutely, no question. The Supra is a bimmer and we don’t like the over the top styling and fake vents everywhere, I’m an Audi guy, so an M2 ain’t happening ( it’s a great car though). Vettes in my experience, are American Chevy pos. Know a guy who hated his c8 so much he ditched it for a new Z. Vette build quality has always been crap imo. Mustangs, no thanks, bad ergonomics for me last time I sat in a gt500, hated it. Good news is we have lots of choices, so everyone has an option to suit theirs tastes. :tup:

Wife is the hpde track rat so she’ll eventually take it to Daytona and Sebring, she’s really getting seriously back into ice hockey again so tracking is on 5he back burner for now. I’m thinking AMS alpha 5 in the next year or two though. :stirthepot:

FL 4Motion 11-16-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gr8-wrx (Post 4047063)
Congrats!

In your case, I'd advocate for a 420Z section :)

I like where your heads at. :tup:

Rusty 11-16-2023 09:14 PM

RS Porsche. :yum: Love a GT4. :yum:

SteveVQ 11-17-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4047110)
Thank you. :tiphat: Yeah, the first Nismos started trickling in about 2-3 weeks ago. The west coast folks got a handful around that time, ours came in last week, it’s one of the first. There are 400 Nismos coming stateside between now and this coming February fyi.

I’ve never paid over sticker for anything and I plan on keeping that streak going as long as possible;) (until we finally get an RS Porsche, no getting around markups there, but that’s a ways off).

Price wise, imo the Z and Z Nismo prices (at Msrp) are fair and in-line with historical price structure. If you look at the 350z or 370z prices and then adjust them for inflation, $54k for a fully loaded regular Z is fair and $66-$68ishK Msrp for a nismo is also fair. We didn’t cross shop anything else bc wife and I are diehard Z and GTR peeps. I also love fast Audis so it was either keep the TT RS or get the Z Nismo.

The Nismo is not a glorified body kit like the last gen, everything was touched on this car: all bushings upgraded including engine mounts, oil cooler, diff cooler, transmission cooler, trans programmed for 20-40% faster shifts, they added extra friction disks to each clutch pack for better heat tolerance, the wheels are incredible in person with perfect offsets (almost perfectly flush, but not quite), better brakes, functional aero, recaros, etc.

On 91 octane, most independent testers are getting 0-60 in 3.9 and 12.0 1/4 mile @ 115. Nismo engineers have said the car loses 30 hp on 91, it was made for 93 and on 93, they are confident it’ll run in the high 11s. That’s not too shabby imo.

Is it worth the money? For us absolutely, no question. The Supra is a bimmer and we don’t like the over the top styling and fake vents everywhere, I’m an Audi guy, so an M2 ain’t happening ( it’s a great car though). Vettes in my experience, are American Chevy pos. Know a guy who hated his c8 so much he ditched it for a new Z. Vette build quality has always been crap imo. Mustangs, no thanks, bad ergonomics for me last time I sat in a gt500, hated it. Good news is we have lots of choices, so everyone has an option to suit theirs tastes. :tup:

Wife is the hpde track rat so she’ll eventually take it to Daytona and Sebring, she’s really getting seriously back into ice hockey again so tracking is on 5he back burner for now. I’m thinking AMS alpha 5 in the next year or two though. :stirthepot:

Those numbers are pretty impressive for a 3700lb 420hp car. Me thinks its a little underrated like the Supra? Advertising crank hp when its actually whp.

I hope they come out with a M/T for the new Nismo. Because once my baby gets old enough to sit in the front seat. I'll be in the market for another 2 seater.

FL 4Motion 11-18-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveVQ (Post 4047123)
Those numbers are pretty impressive for a 3700lb 420hp car. Me thinks its a little underrated like the Supra? Advertising crank hp when its actually whp.

I hope they come out with a M/T for the new Nismo. Because once my baby gets old enough to sit in the front seat. I'll be in the market for another 2 seater.

For sure, one of the independent tests weighed the car, it’s a bit over 3600lbs. Not light by any means. It’s been dynoed independently as well and it makes 380ftlbs at the wheels on 91 and 354 whp. On 93 it’d be even more, apparently quite a bit if the Nismo engineers are to be believed.

Nismo engineers said they could drop a manual trans into the car no problem, it wouldn’t require any special changes. They said it’d be noticeably slower though, the transmission is one of the highlights of this car. It’s totally designed around performance and faster lap times.

They mentioned that if 5he car sells well and there’s enough demand for it, we will likely see a m/t Z Nismo at some point.

I’m personally hoping for an extra saucy RS version at the end of the model run to give a big send off to what is likely to be the last non hybrid gas powered Z.

SteveVQ 11-20-2023 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4047150)
For sure, one of the independent tests weighed the car, it’s a bit over 3600lbs. Not light by any means. It’s been dynoed independently as well and it makes 380ftlbs at the wheels on 91 and 354 whp. On 93 it’d be even more, apparently quite a bit if the Nismo engineers are to be believed.

Nismo engineers said they could drop a manual trans into the car no problem, it wouldn’t require any special changes. They said it’d be noticeably slower though, the transmission is one of the highlights of this car. It’s totally designed around performance and faster lap times.

They mentioned that if 5he car sells well and there’s enough demand for it, we will likely see a m/t Z Nismo at some point.

I’m personally hoping for an extra saucy RS version at the end of the model run to give a big send off to what is likely to be the last non hybrid gas powered Z.

Does the Trans feel like a DCT?


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