new 2012 370Z

wstar · 10-21-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

I think beyond warranty denial, they're also trying to cut the new-car accident rate. Getting most consumers to "go easy" on the car for a while at first will cut the rate of people who get on the car hard before they've learned to feel the car's reactions and know its capabilities, which leads to those low-mileage catastrophic wrecks.

But I agree with Red, as far as real engine break-in is concerned: (a) the factory has done it for you, and (b) if anything, if the engine *wasn't* fully broken in, you don't want to be too soft on the engine early on. The main thing with break-in on a modern engine is piston ring seating/sealing, and you want to make use of the cross-hatch score-marks on the cylinder walls to properly abrade the rings under stress conditions before the score-marks are worn smooth from regular driving.

Bonzo · 10-21-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

I really don't see what the big deal is. So you take it easy for the first month, B-F-D. Doing that CERTAINLY won't hurt, and it could help. Driving the crap out of it right away certainly COULD hurt. I say it's worth it to take it easy even if there is even a slight chance it will help in the long run. I want this car to last for a long time.

somatic · 10-21-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

im talking about the basic recommendation. i sell nissans everyday and im required to say 500 lol. thats what they say

Red__Zed · 10-21-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo

I really don't see what the big deal is. So you take it easy for the first month, B-F-D. Doing that CERTAINLY won't hurt, and it could help. Driving the crap out of it right away certainly COULD hurt. I say it's worth it to take it easy even if there is even a slight chance it will help in the long run. I want this car to last for a long time.

Read up on piston seating/sealing.

Your engine comes from the factory usually 80% broken in. If you don't do a pull, you are hoping Nissan got it right.

The vast majority of oil consumption cases on the 350 were due to failure to seat piston rings at the factory, and then consumers taking it easy as directed. The 370 had similar oil consumption issues...likely the same cause.

Red__Zed · 10-21-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by somatic

im talking about the basic recommendation. i sell nissans everyday and im required to say 500 lol. thats what they say

500 syncs up with gear requirements I guess....wonder where you get that number though...nissans company line is 1200.

somatic · 10-21-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

500 syncs up with gear requirements I guess....wonder where you get that number though...nissans company line is 1200.

lmao idk whats with my head today. ur right. i dont know why i mixed that up with the towing restriction lol.

thats right, i said it, red zed was right

Bonzo · 10-21-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Read up on piston seating/sealing.

Your engine comes from the factory usually 80% broken in. If you don't do a pull, you are hoping Nissan got it right.

The vast majority of oil consumption cases on the 350 were due to failure to seat piston rings at the factory, and then consumers taking it easy as directed. The 370 had similar oil consumption issues...likely the same cause.

Oh, I've done quite a bit of reading about things like this in the past, and this is a lot like the oil discussion you are having over on the other thread. I've owned several vehicles in my life and never ever had one single engine problem. Not one, including my 2004 Murano that has 160,000 miles on it. So I'll just do it my way, and you do it your way. There is no solid proof one way is 100% ultimately better than the other. If you think there is, then by all means follow it. If I get engine problems with my way, then shame on me and Nissan.

Red__Zed · 10-21-2011, 01:23 PM

Best of luck with that

b1adesofcha0s · 10-21-2011, 01:35 PM

Red__Zed is always right. The sooner you understand that, the better it will be for you. :|

danegrey · 10-21-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I agree. That would piss me off. Oh, and I'd make them remove the dealership decal they slapped onto the rear under the 370Z emblem.

did that this afternoon and took off the license plate holders and in process of formating my letter, which will also go to Nissan.....

danegrey · 10-21-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo

Oh sh*t, I just looked at your pictures again, I hope it's the lighting, but it appears from the limited pic they DID screw the front plate into your bumper. Hell, it even looks crooked. Please say it isn't so.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its not so, standard holder from factory, there license plate holder is gone

danegrey · 10-21-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Did they give you wheel locks? I can't tell from the pics (my eye sight is good, but not THAT good).

no wheel locks, just had to have the wheel locks removed on my 91 mustang gt, for someone lost the key and it was not me.

danegrey · 10-21-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by somatic

but nissan still reccomends you take it easy for the first 500 miles.

LOL, well there are 150 on it now, and a bit more, with having to learn how to drive a sports car vs a 91 Mustang, not looking at anything crazy just some fun and to find out how the car behaves.

danegrey · 10-21-2011, 04:18 PM

I am not sure if this is the oil cooler, did not get under the car, this is a pic through the front grill....

azn370z · 10-21-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey

I am not sure if this is the oil cooler, did not get under the car, this is a pic through the front grill....

That's the ps cooler. Someone already posted pics of the oil cooler.

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