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Old 12-01-2013, 04:36 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Some of this is a bit odd; a bit like the texting teen thread on the forum earlier in some aspects. Somebody starts a thread expressing condolences to the family, some others do the same, then there are some that feel the need to assert fault in the deceased and their lack of compassion for those involved.

This thread didn't start by telling anyone what to feel, nor was fault at the heart of the matter. People are visited by misfortune of their own making and otherwise; they often leave behind loved ones. Why some folks feel the need to proclaim their indifference for either the deceased or their families here is bizarre. You don't care? ok, good for you, but why do you care enough to post your indifference or to blame those involved? Sure, they were probably at fault and that has been largely uncontested, but somewhere two parents lost a child and a child lost her father. That the passenger entered the car on his own volition doesn't change that. Moreover, the notion that we should be chided for expressing compassion for the families of people who die in accidents of their own making is unfair. I get it, it's the fault of the participants, some people care others don't. This isn't the "expressions of blame and indifference thread" it's title is "Rest in Peace Paul Walker" thread.
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Condolences to all involved. Sad as he was an exciting actor and passionate motoring fan.

Unfortunately the car is one that is very tricky at the limit or not very close. Start watching at around 6 minutes for Stigs' experience as Jeremy describes his feelings on the car. Not at all very forgiving even at lower speeds/dynamic loads.

BBC: Porsche Carrera GT Car Review- Top Gear - YouTube

Looking at the crash photos - the front wheels appear to be cranked into a slide to the right and the rears came around as the chassis was fractured severely if not broken in half. I would suspect the impact immobilized both of them and unable to escape the fire.

Many similar accidents at the Nurburgring in exotics that are tricky near the limit/unforgiving.
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Even if the road was closed for the charity event, the poles are still there. Performance driving should never be done on a street, even if its closed. So RIP Paul, he seems like a kind of guy you could sit with and talk cars all day long. Most of us had friends growing up that died in street races.
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Rip Paul.. obviously the high speed was the big factor to make the car look like that but still not sure about all the details ... Super nice guy to end his life this young of age.. prayers for his family specially his 15 year daughter..
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so it was true...
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Condolences to the daughter. Since I must obey all traffic devices, I guess I will trade the Z in for a Yugo. Really? Some of you guys sound like mothers. In an age in which there are 600 hp cars available to anyone with good credit, how can we pass judgement. RIP Paul Walker.
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Always hate to hear this kind of news.
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Did the GT have the electronic nannies? My V has them and a few times it's saved me from wadding around a tree.
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Man I still can't believe this. ..sad for both
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Few of my friends where there an a few first to the scene w extinguishers but the extinguishers did nothing!! Roger was driving owner of Ae performance and both fellow race car drivers !!
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Some of this is a bit odd; a bit like the texting teen thread on the forum earlier in some aspects. Somebody starts a thread expressing condolences to the family, some others do the same, then there are some that feel the need to assert fault in the deceased and their lack of compassion for those involved.

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This deserves reposting. Do these same people show up at funerals and insult the deceased and try to point out fault to grieving loved ones in some sort of better-than-thou demonstration?

That this happens on a performance car forum many of whose drivers have done stupid things with their car when not on a track that could end in a similar accident is icing...

Not many celebrity deaths have made me sit back and think, but Paul's passing is doubly important to me as it stands as a reminder to always respect the speed, power, and life around you. Is it more tragic than another car enthusiastic death? Perhaps not, but Paul is high profile and lived in a world (at least to our perception) of being above commonman mortality and problems. F&F didn't completely get me into performance cars, but it was the start of the thoughts and of my appreciation for the passion he brought to his life and work.
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probably didnt help that it was supposedly shortly after they left the event. cold tires, cold brakes probably didnt do them any good. RIP
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Few of my friends where there an a few first to the scene w extinguishers but the extinguishers did nothing!! Roger was driving owner of Ae performance and both fellow race car drivers !!
Chemical fire, and exploding car made very little help possible. Would have needed a Class C fire extinguisher, I think.
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