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Old 06-16-2015, 11:01 AM   #1021 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2015, 11:14 AM   #1022 (permalink)
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GoT is really testing my patience with this season. It almost feels like a burden to watch now. Especially after the key deaths in the past couple episodes, though I guess one was paid off almost immediately this week. Still a great show, just wish it wasn't quite so bleak. Having said that... I wonder if the character that dies at the very end of this week's episode is really gone. With what we know about faith and magic, is that really their fate? I almost wanted the last shot to be of the character blinking once right before cutting to credits. Maybe that's just me though...
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Many theories abound and the books leave it far more open to to Jon being able to survive...though unlikely. There's no doubt that Jon is dead. Does he stay dead is a different story and he wouldn't be the first. Drogo sort of came back and so did Beric Dondarrion. Lady Stoneheart too if you've read the books. That's not even counting the countless reanimated wights, but they've but all lost who they were. Still, just proves that dead doesn't necessarily mean dead forever.

Many think the red priestess could revive him from death, but I don't think it would be that obvious. We know she's powerful, but we also know her visions and powers have been completely wrong. My guess. Jon is half Targaryen and there's plenty of evidence to suggest this. They'll burn his body (for fear that he'll come back as a wight)...he'll wake up, reborn from the fire, just as Danny did with her dragons. He may even fulfill the prophecy of The Prince That Was Promised. According to prophecy, the Prince That Was Promised would be reborn "amidst salt and smoke" and pull a flaming sword from the flames, Lightbringer, to combat the coming darkness...

They have a ton of similarities if you look closely. Both are orphans, both had their mother died during childbirth, both have creatures they share a common bond with (dragon/direwolf) and both gained positions of power through honorable acts.

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Old 06-16-2015, 11:22 AM   #1023 (permalink)
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Just a theory, lol
IMO I think you nailed it Very similar to my thoughts after I finished Dance with Dragons however long ago that was.

I'm interested to see the split now since the show has caught up. I can't imagine GRRM pushing out the next book just to keep HBO on schedule. More likely HBO will continue to take creative liberties as they have already done. It is possible they will consult with GRRM for his thoughts before the show scripts are written, but I'm not sure how likely that is.
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If you wish to know the future of Jon Snow...

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Kit Harrington stated in an interview "I'm dead. I'm not coming back next season." Source: 'Game of Thrones' star on that shocking death | EW.com
A few interviews he has done suggest otherwise
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http://www.latintimes.com/game-thrones-spoilers-author-george-rr-martin-accidentally-reveals-jon-snow-not-dead-winds-winter
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Old 06-16-2015, 11:28 AM   #1025 (permalink)
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I feel like they are dragging the storylines along so as to not surpass the books too much, trying to spoil as little as possible. Its like one big waiting game to see any sort of resolution for the good guys
They've already surpassed the books. If anything, they're moving a lot faster than the books. If you've been watching or reading the whole story so far.... GoT has never been about quick resolutions. Though the subject matter is clearly fantasy, it's pace is closer to reality and having the good guys resolve everything in one episode would be kind of boring. The only thing slow is GRRM's book releases. Its been an excruciatingly long wait between books and there's no doubt now that the series will surpass the books. It's been 4 years since "A Dance with Dragons" for crying out loud....20 years since the "A Game of Thrones." GRRM is still not done with "Winds of Winter" and there's no way he'll finish and release the last book before season 7 concludes.
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Old 06-16-2015, 11:34 AM   #1026 (permalink)
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They've already surpassed the books. If anything, they're moving a lot faster than the books. If you've been watching or reading the whole story so far.... GoT has never been about quick resolutions. Though the subject matter is clearly fantasy, it's pace is closer to reality and having the good guys resolve everything in one episode would be kind of boring. The only thing slow is GRRM's book releases. Its been an excruciatingly long wait between books and there's no doubt now that the series will surpass the books. It's been 4 years since "A Dance with Dragons" for crying out loud....20 years since the "A Game of Thrones." GRRM is still not done with "Winds of Winter" and there's no way he'll finish and release the last book before season 7 concludes.
They've surpassed the books yes, catching up ( or surpassing) dany,stannis and jon's stories as they are in the books, however I feel like next season will still be revisiting some parts of the books that they have not yet touched on , like Jaime in the riverlands, the emergence of Euron and the greyjoy brothers, and dorne's intentions being revealed, possibly introducing (revealing) a certain someone.


and i agree.. the wait is excruciating, not sure if i buy 7 seasons, just don't see it happening in only 7 yet
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:26 PM   #1027 (permalink)
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so, my wife and I each saw the scene differently. Did Reek and Sansa plunge to their deaths, or plunge to the snow to escape?
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:27 PM   #1028 (permalink)
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so, my wife and I each saw the scene differently. Did Reek and Sansa plunge to their deaths, or plunge to the snow to escape?

Snow to escape.


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Yeah to me it looked like they intended to jump to safety, not to die. Though that was a long way down!
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In the show version, it seems to me that Sansa and Theon are making the decision to escape, or die trying. They really have little choice at this point as Ramsey may not be pleased.
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The show creators have already went on record that they have had discussions with GRRM and know where they are going with the story and what the end will be. They only received his permission to do the show because they guessed who is Jon Snow's mother correctly.
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If you wish to know the future of Jon Snow...

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Kit Harrington stated in an interview "I'm dead. I'm not coming back next season." Source: 'Game of Thrones' star on that shocking death | EW.com
Not to be condescending, but what do you expect them to say? Its been stated from credible sources on reddit etc that he's signed through season 7. Someone like Ned Stark, who was killed off, was not extended beyond season 1. If his character were to return in some fashion, its per diem contracted appearance - not as a part of the contract for the primary cast, which typically also includes press requirements etc.

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If JS died on Sunday night, and on Monday morning everyone related to ASOIAF/Thrones is saying "nahhhh just wait, i'm not really dead, JS will be back!" It completely defeats the purpose of even killing him in the first place and wrecks the surprise of his return in a different form. Fans would not be happy, and most of all that would be a really stupid way to handle it. Plus, his outcome hasn't been revealed in the books yet either.

On his return, in whatever form it is, the significance of R + L = J will also be revealed.
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You never know, he could be out for a season like Brann was this season, then return the following season. Who knows, right?
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so, my wife and I each saw the scene differently. Did Reek and Sansa plunge to their deaths, or plunge to the snow to escape?
Yup, to escape. The same snow storm that stopped Stannis' army likely provided enough snow drifts to cushion their fall. If they wanted to kill themselves, they would have jumped of to the side where Theon pushed that other girl. They'll no doubt end up on the wall. Sansa knows Jon is there.
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Yup, to escape. The same snow storm that stopped Stannis' army likely provided enough snow drifts to cushion their fall. If they wanted to kill themselves, they would have jumped of to the side where Theon pushed that other girl. They'll no doubt end up on the wall. Sansa knows Jon WAS there.
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