Game of Thrones

BlackZeda

The awesomeness continues...

As I state last week, HBO saved George R.R. Martin. A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons were decent IMO, but they also belied the fact that GRRM was a bit wandering where he wanted to go. The first three books and the TV series were equal, but it is apparent that the TV series is going to have a better, more concise story. Just look at HBO's track record: The Sopranos, Rome, Boardwalk Empire, Six Feet Under, Band of Brothers and The Wire (my god, The Wire is the best, most unseen TV show ever). This can only benefit The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring. I am excited about both!



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ElVee

I agree, only more emphatically. I've read plenty of fantasy series over the years, and it's not uncommon for an author to hit upon some success, and then milk the hell out of it. It's rare enough when success happens, and it's hard to fault an author for doing it. But it's still never a good taste in the mouth for the audience.

I felt AFOC and ADWD were awful. They slogged on about nothing just because he opted late to split it into two books and needed filler. I greatly dislike his change from having every chapter named and centered on a main character, and instead now brings in some ancillary characters, sometimes completely throw-away. And it also means I can go 20 chapters before getting back around to the ones I actually like. Including more characters can be nice, but man it bloats the content.

And it suffers from that same problem that other milked fantasy series experience: nothing happening. Sure some things happen, but it's a long slog to get there, and it's typically just end-of-book things...major milestones GRRM needed all that filler to get to. Busywork for major characters that really doesn't matter much.

And by the end of ADWD, we have supposedly just two books left, and I struggle to think of how this could all be wrapped up in two more books.

saber

Yeah, they've really condensed down the idiocy GRMM insists on building in his books.

I mean, I'm all for added detail and building the story, but especially in FoC (haven't read DWD yet) it was awful 80% of the time.

I did not expect Bronn to be sparring with Jaime. Let's see what creative licenses HBO takes with this. Probably won't stray too far from source material, but it's hard to imagine that Jaime can get away with sparring with Bronn for so long versus the mute Ilyn Payne as he does in the books.



What a great episode.

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