Walking Dead

The Dimer · 12-01-2014, 09:44 AM

Before the episode aired they said we wouldn't see the ending coming. Watching the episode and realizing nothing was happening for the first 75% of it I was wondering what the shocking moment was going to be and quickly landed on someone getting killed, especially after Hardwick came on and said they had a special guest on Talking Dead.

Once you know someone is going to die it's pretty easy to figure out who. You just have to look at which underdeveloped and underused characters are starting to get more time in front of the camera. Thought they might just let Carol succumb to her injuries or put her out of her misery if they were going to leave her crippled, but that wouldn't have been exciting enough. After that Beth is really all you got left.

I never really liked her character or her signing, but I still felt a little sad seeing her go. Especially since Maggie is now the only one left from the Greene family. That being said, I was expecting more out of Beth's last stand. After all that buildup she stabbed Dawn in the collarbone. They could have had Beth slice her jugular so even after she gets blasted she still would have taken Dawn out.

If Dawn hadn't been so quick on the trigger she would have just looked at it like

and it would have been a really awkward moment for everyone in that hallway. So while I get why she did it, it really makes her death seem rather pointless.

DCNISMO · 12-01-2014, 10:19 AM

I agree, I wanted the scissors to the jugular of Dawn. Stabbing the collarbone was lame, she was better than that with weapons and scissors.

Jordo! · 12-01-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

I agree, I wanted the scissors to the jugular of Dawn. Stabbing the collarbone was lame, she was better than that with weapons and scissors.

It also made no sense (actually, neither did their whole weird "police state" system -- when you have a community of 50 people, limited supplies, and some clamoring to get in while others want out, its pointless to force survivors whose sole job is to basically serve as custodial staff to stay at gunpoint

). That silly bitch was HOME FREE. What did she think was going to happen when she pulled a shiv during a "Mexican standoff"? Dumb plot device.

Anyway, Maggie will have plenty more to cry about soon enough...

Because, the next story arc should be leading up to

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DCNISMO · 02-08-2015, 09:28 PM

Geez! another main character is offed!!

StLRedrider · 02-08-2015, 09:49 PM

Well Fvck :/

HKYStormFront · 02-08-2015, 10:12 PM

Good episode though. At least it wasn't just one scene and done.

DCNISMO · 02-08-2015, 10:39 PM

Great episode, was more like an art film of dream sequences. But how many main people can they kill off and keep us watching? If they off Daryl I'm done with it. They should have killed that dumb FVuck Abraham or the redneck Eugene.

Jordo! · 02-09-2015, 02:35 AM

This whole season has one purpose: Put everyone in one place with walls, and then run into the Saviors.

Oh, and kill off everyone irrelevant to the actual story (good, bad, welcome or unwelcome). In theory, that makes Eugene and Abraham bullet and zombie proof for a while, BTW... but who knows.

Tyrese was overdue to go. I was not a fan of the hallucination storytelling angle. It felt really forced. I'm sure Chris Hardwick was very excited to talk about it.

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The Dimer · 02-09-2015, 01:44 PM

I generally like the episode, but the fever dream was a bit much for me. I did like how they tried to keep you guessing on whether Tyreese was going to make it or not. He's bit and screwed, cut his arm off maybe not, bleeds out done for. I'm sad to see him go, but he wasn't as badass as his comic book counterpart, and he was supposed to die at the prison so I knew he was on borrowed time to begin with. I just didn't think they'd open the season with his demise.

But I got to see Bob one more time! Can't really explain it myself, but I really liked the character for some reason.

I like some of the other character development from this episode though. Like how Glenn has notice himself changed by the world and Michonne is nearing a breaking point and just wants to stop moving.

It'll be interesting to see how they work their way to Savior story line and whether they decide to take anymore detours before they get there. Obviously that town they had gone to had been attacked as evident by the bent in fence and the firebombed houses, but why did they turn all those zombies into nuggets and shove them in the back of an abandoned truck.

Hopefully Noah doesn't end up being everyone's new favorite character to hate, which I already fear that set the path for. At least we know he's super fast. He can outrun everyone in the group with a broken leg.

Jordo! · 02-09-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer

I generally like the episode, but the fever dream was a bit much for me. I did like how they tried to keep you guessing on whether Tyreese was going to make it or not. He's bit and screwed, cut his arm off maybe not, bleeds out done for. I'm sad to see him go, but he wasn't as badass as his comic book counterpart, and he was supposed to die at the prison so I knew he was on borrowed time to begin with. I just didn't think they'd open the season with his demise.

But I got to see Bob one more time! Can't really explain it myself, but I really liked the character for some reason.

I like some of the other character development from this episode though. Like how Glenn has notice himself changed by the world and Michonne is nearing a breaking point and just wants to stop moving.

It'll be interesting to see how they work their way to Savior story line and whether they decide to take anymore detours before they get there. Obviously that town they had gone to had been attacked as evident by the bent in fence and the firebombed houses, but why did they turn all those zombies into nuggets and shove them in the back of an abandoned truck.

Hopefully Noah doesn't end up being everyone's new favorite character to hate, which I already fear that set the path for. At least we know he's super fast. He can outrun everyone in the group with a broken leg.

If you're up on the comic, I think that those were set aside to construct part of the Saviors' "fence"...

The Dimer · 02-10-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

If you're up on the comic, I think that those were set aside to construct part of the Saviors' "fence"...

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I'll have to go back a reread the story arc when it looks like we're getting closer to first contact.

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

They need to tighten up the continuity of time and location of where they are and where they are going. Plus the seasons, in this episode you can see where the trees look like early autumn in one scene with leaves changing....and the next its mid summer with vibrant green. For the roads they drive on, the grass seems freshly cut beside it. Its been at least two winters now and years since the outbreak, in the south it would be all grown up for weeds and grass by now. The whole thing needs to evolve in terms of the environment and what it should look like now.

They have done a pretty poor job letting the audience know how much time has passed between episodes/seasons. They never really show the group dealing with winter so unless one of the characters mentions it one could end up assuming everything is taking place within the same year.

As for the environment around them I can only assume that they don't think it's worth the money to do it. They're filming in places that probably see some sort of everyday traffic so letting it all go to hell naturally isn't going to happen and they probably assume the average viewer isn't going to pay that much attention to trees and grass.

HKYStormFront · 02-09-2015, 09:56 PM

Speaking of Noah, that's probably my biggest issue with this show is that in probably 50% or more of the episodes, one or more characters (not Noah specifically) does something incredibly stupid, incredibly irrational, or just "looses their sh!t" randomly and ends up causing a problem simply because the plot needs them to. Case in point, Andrea's entire season with the Governor. Seriously... nobody is that dumb or ignorant at this point in this world.

Noah may have been somewhat sheltered from the horrors outside by staying in the hospital but he still has seen awful things and done awful things. I realize it was his home and what not but he suddenly realized he was at his street in his home town and randomly takes off running like a madman. Why? Oh, to get Tyreese into a zombie infested house... Ah, that makes sesnse *rolls eyes*.

To be fair, I still liked this episode overall but my God they get really liberal with the characters doing dumb crap if it makes things easier to move the plot along. No one ever claimed that TWD tv show had the best scripting but even I could come up with a better way to get Tyreese into that position that wasn't so ridiculous.

DCNISMO · 02-10-2015, 07:18 AM

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Andrea's entire season with the Governor. Seriously... nobody is that dumb or ignorant at this point in this world.

Women DO do dumb things as we all know, and think they can change men as well.

My beef is that they went from Atlanta to Richmond, in a land full of walker herds and few supplies pretty quickly and without incident. There would be cars stranded and walkers all over the place. Atlanta to Richmond is a long drive, even without zombies trying to eat you. Now it appears they are off to DC, but have to walk the final parts? They need to tighten up the continuity of time and location of where they are and where they are going. Plus the seasons, in this episode you can see where the trees look like early autumn in one scene with leaves changing....and the next its mid summer with vibrant green. For the roads they drive on, the grass seems freshly cut beside it. Its been at least two winters now and years since the outbreak, in the south it would be all grown up for weeds and grass by now. The whole thing needs to evolve in terms of the environment and what it should look like now.

Tadpole · 02-10-2015, 10:47 AM

It's a TV show boys and girls for entertainment. Just go with it.

KittenMittens · 02-10-2015, 11:03 AM

lol get it... "jesus"

12-01-2014, 09:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
The Dimer Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bolingbrook, IL Posts: 632 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 16	Before the episode aired they said we wouldn't see the ending coming. Watching the episode and realizing nothing was happening for the first 75% of it I was wondering what the shocking moment was going to be and quickly landed on someone getting killed, especially after Hardwick came on and said they had a special guest on Talking Dead. Once you know someone is going to die it's pretty easy to figure out who. You just have to look at which underdeveloped and underused characters are starting to get more time in front of the camera. Thought they might just let Carol succumb to her injuries or put her out of her misery if they were going to leave her crippled, but that wouldn't have been exciting enough. After that Beth is really all you got left. I never really liked her character or her signing, but I still felt a little sad seeing her go. Especially since Maggie is now the only one left from the Greene family. That being said, I was expecting more out of Beth's last stand. After all that buildup she stabbed Dawn in the collarbone. They could have had Beth slice her jugular so even after she gets blasted she still would have taken Dawn out. If Dawn hadn't been so quick on the trigger she would have just looked at it like and it would have been a really awkward moment for everyone in that hallway. So while I get why she did it, it really makes her death seem rather pointless. __________________ K&N Drop-Ins, Z1 Post-MAF Tubes, FI 18" CF TDX, TWM Short Throw Shifter w/ A6 Leopard Knob, 'esfourteen' clutch helper spring, 'kellyefields' hood struts.

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Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	This whole season has one purpose: Put everyone in one place with walls, and then run into the Saviors. Oh, and kill off everyone irrelevant to the actual story (good, bad, welcome or unwelcome). In theory, that makes Eugene and Abraham bullet and zombie proof for a while, BTW... but who knows. Tyrese was overdue to go. I was not a fan of the hallucination storytelling angle. It felt really forced. I'm sure Chris Hardwick was very excited to talk about it. ( Click to show/hide ) Perhaps a little foreshadowing in Glenn's new weapon pick-up? Hmmmm.... __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 02-09-2015 at 02:40 AM.

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The Dimer Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bolingbrook, IL Posts: 632 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 16	I generally like the episode, but the fever dream was a bit much for me. I did like how they tried to keep you guessing on whether Tyreese was going to make it or not. He's bit and screwed, cut his arm off maybe not, bleeds out done for. I'm sad to see him go, but he wasn't as badass as his comic book counterpart, and he was supposed to die at the prison so I knew he was on borrowed time to begin with. I just didn't think they'd open the season with his demise. But I got to see Bob one more time! Can't really explain it myself, but I really liked the character for some reason. I like some of the other character development from this episode though. Like how Glenn has notice himself changed by the world and Michonne is nearing a breaking point and just wants to stop moving. It'll be interesting to see how they work their way to Savior story line and whether they decide to take anymore detours before they get there. Obviously that town they had gone to had been attacked as evident by the bent in fence and the firebombed houses, but why did they turn all those zombies into nuggets and shove them in the back of an abandoned truck. Hopefully Noah doesn't end up being everyone's new favorite character to hate, which I already fear that set the path for. At least we know he's super fast. He can outrun everyone in the group with a broken leg. __________________ K&N Drop-Ins, Z1 Post-MAF Tubes, FI 18" CF TDX, TWM Short Throw Shifter w/ A6 Leopard Knob, 'esfourteen' clutch helper spring, 'kellyefields' hood struts.

12-01-2014, 10:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	I agree, I wanted the scissors to the jugular of Dawn. Stabbing the collarbone was lame, she was better than that with weapons and scissors.

02-08-2015, 09:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	Geez! another main character is offed!!

02-08-2015, 10:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	Great episode, was more like an art film of dream sequences. But how many main people can they kill off and keep us watching? If they off Daryl I'm done with it. They should have killed that dumb FVuck Abraham or the redneck Eugene.

02-09-2015, 09:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	Speaking of Noah, that's probably my biggest issue with this show is that in probably 50% or more of the episodes, one or more characters (not Noah specifically) does something incredibly stupid, incredibly irrational, or just "looses their sh!t" randomly and ends up causing a problem simply because the plot needs them to. Case in point, Andrea's entire season with the Governor. Seriously... nobody is that dumb or ignorant at this point in this world. Noah may have been somewhat sheltered from the horrors outside by staying in the hospital but he still has seen awful things and done awful things. I realize it was his home and what not but he suddenly realized he was at his street in his home town and randomly takes off running like a madman. Why? Oh, to get Tyreese into a zombie infested house... Ah, that makes sesnse rolls eyes. To be fair, I still liked this episode overall but my God they get really liberal with the characters doing dumb crap if it makes things easier to move the plot along. No one ever claimed that TWD tv show had the best scripting but even I could come up with a better way to get Tyreese into that position that wasn't so ridiculous. __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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Tadpole A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lockhart, TX Posts: 1,082 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z A7 Rep Power: 18	It's a TV show boys and girls for entertainment. Just go with it. __________________ Takeda TR3009P Short Ram Intakes, Custom Dual Exhaust, X-Piped with 18" Resonators & TopSpeed Axle Backs. EVO-R Led Third Foglight,

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KittenMittens Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austin Posts: 118 Drives: 18 Nismo 370Z BLK M6 Rep Power: 17	lol get it... "jesus"

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