Saga of Wheels

Meulen · 02-20-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

We're using the same PowderCoater that Forgestar uses... although with less than stellar results.

Well......

being I used to work for a powder coater......

There are countless color options. There should be another product close to what you want. I have never heard of a color that was not a viable option. Usually, what you see is a bad batch of powder or a flaw in the process. There may be another supplier out there that has your color in a different brand. I'm just saying it's probably a viable option, but they are probably having problems with a supplier or don't want to spend the money to buy a new batch of that color for you.

osbornsm · 02-20-2014, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen

Well......

being I used to work for a powder coater......

There are countless color options. There should be another product close to what you want. I have never heard of a color that was not a viable option. Usually, what you see is a bad batch of powder or a flaw in the process. There may be another supplier out there that has your color in a different brand. I'm just saying it's probably a viable option, but they are probably having problems with a supplier or don't want to spend the money to buy a new batch of that color for you.

Well put sir. I shall consider this as well.

jlo370z · 02-20-2014, 03:55 PM

Kick their arse Sean!

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osbornsm · 02-20-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo370z

Kick their arse Sean!

On yeah, i've been furiously IM-ing with the vendor all afternoon.

UPDATE: The color "textured red" is not available for Forgestar wheels. Only a fire-engine red is avail... yuck. HOWEVER, i spoke with the Manufacturer via the Vendor... and found that the candy red color above IS available.

So the new wheel color is called: Blood Red

I'm okay w this... about 2 more weeks they say....

Ubetit · 02-23-2014, 10:49 AM

Not sure I'd want a forged wheel heated, bead blasted and then reheated. Maybe Meulen can chime in

Xplicit97 · 02-23-2014, 11:30 AM

I don't believe the monoblock F14s are forged.. Only the three piece I believe.

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osbornsm · 02-24-2014, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubetit

Not sure I'd want a forged wheel heated, bead blasted and then reheated. Maybe Meulen can chime in

Why is this bad ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit97

I don't believe the monoblock F14s are forged.

Forgestar calls it Flow Forming, but def NOT forged.

Meulen · 02-24-2014, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

Why is this bad ?

Forgestar calls it Flow Forming, but def NOT forged.

I can see why some people would be nervous. I'm not an expert on steel so this may be a better question for the wheel manufacter. What I do know is forging is a heating process that takes steel to 2000+ degrees. This is just before the steels melting point and the metal is able to shaped. There's something about the carbon in the steel at that temp that creates a chemical reaction hardening the steel. I believe, heating it up again after that chemical reaction takes place may distort the metal. However, the powdercoating process is only heated to around 400 degrees. I don't believe that would be near enough to worry about distorting the metal. It's significantly below it's melting point. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. If you think about, forged rods and pistons probably are subject to more heat in their own use.

Ubetit · 02-26-2014, 09:50 PM

I was thinking more in terms of forged aluminum. Not sure I've seen forged steel wheels.

Meulen · 02-26-2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubetit

I was thinking more in terms of forged aluminum. Not sure I've seen forged steel wheels.

Yeah, same deal if they are aluminum forged. It's worth a call to the wheel mfg. they'll know what aluminum alloy was used and what heat tolerance they can take.

osbornsm · 03-21-2014, 10:36 AM

Captain's Log, star-date 03.21.14

Wheels have passed Quality Control and have been shipped. Thank all that is holy that i am finally getting these wheels.

They should be here: 3/26/14.
- And no, not delivered to my front door.

I ordered them on Black Friday, which puts this order at 4 months.
- Was it worth the wait? ...damn straight.

Forgestar F14 - Blood Red

Front: 19x9.5
Rear: 19x11 (super deep concave)

=============================================

Meulen · 03-21-2014, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

Captain's Log, star-date 03.21.14

Wheels have passed Quality Control and have been shipped. Thank all that is holy that i am finally getting these wheels.

They should be here: 3/26/14.
- And no, not delivered to my front door.

I ordered them on Black Friday, which puts this order at 4 months.
- Was it worth the wait? ...damn straight.

Forgestar F14 - Blood Red

Front: 19x9.5
Rear: 19x11 (super deep concave)

==

HAWT!!

osbornsm · 04-21-2014, 02:51 PM

Oh, now the center caps don't fit because the paint is too thick.

*sigh

Vendor is sending new ones, free... Pain in the @ss included!!

DJ86 · 05-03-2014, 02:15 AM

Any suggestions for me with regards to dealing with Forgestar? I'm in the 18th week and still awaiting on my wheels. I've been given multiple delivery dates. As of last Friday, the vendor told me they just got the front cores in and they would try to have them ready ASAP... However, no dates were given.... Like you, I'm certainly beyond frustrated at this point.

02-20-2014, 03:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
jlo370z Im a Fireball Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Ill in noise Posts: 3,370 Drives: 11 370z Red 6spd Rep Power: 43426	Kick their arse Sean! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ ❝The Jlo370Z Build❞ 523HP \| 455 ftb tq \| 11.5 PSI \| 93 Octane *2017 Porsche 991.2 C4!l*

02-23-2014, 11:30 AM	#21 (permalink)
Xplicit97 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bremerton, WA Age: 45 Posts: 875 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 300	I don't believe the monoblock F14s are forged.. Only the three piece I believe. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ [B]2011 Brilliant Silver Nismo 370Z # 0305, 15 Nismo wide body conversion, Motordyne E370/Art pipes, Stillen G3, Airlift suspension,20X10 /20X12 Avant Garde F111 forged wheels

03-21-2014, 10:36 AM	#26 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	Captain's Log, star-date 03.21.14 Wheels have passed Quality Control and have been shipped. Thank all that is holy that i am finally getting these wheels. They should be here: 3/26/14. - And no, not delivered to my front door. I ordered them on Black Friday, which puts this order at 4 months. - Was it worth the wait? ...damn straight. Forgestar F14 - Blood Red Front: 19x9.5 Rear: 19x11 (super deep concave) ============================================= ============================================= ============================================= ============================================= johnson14785 and Meulen like this. __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

04-21-2014, 02:51 PM	#28 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	Oh, now the center caps don't fit because the paint is too thick. sigh Vendor is sending new ones, free... Pain in the @ss included!! __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE* (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

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Ubetit Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Drives: the women lazy Rep Power: 14	Not sure I'd want a forged wheel heated, bead blasted and then reheated. Maybe Meulen can chime in

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DJ86 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Chicago Posts: 26 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 11	Any suggestions for me with regards to dealing with Forgestar? I'm in the 18th week and still awaiting on my wheels. I've been given multiple delivery dates. As of last Friday, the vendor told me they just got the front cores in and they would try to have them ready ASAP... However, no dates were given.... Like you, I'm certainly beyond frustrated at this point.