de-tuned vq and 2.5 4 cyl... soo more than likely a 220hp and 300hp platform...

hmm..

IF that's the case, i'll stay 370

A "de-tuned" VQ37 in a 2,700 lb car would be a monster of a tuning platform.

depending on how they de-tune it. BUTTTT how can they get down to 2700lbs with the vq in it is what im wondering. vq is a heavy engine

Small, no frills, tuner chassis?

It's going to have to be a substantially lighter/cheaper car to not compete with the Z if they are doing a de-tuned VQ.

I still think all signs point to a turbo 4-cyl for the new-platform and a ~360 HP VQ37 for the Z.

agree completely. im callin it:

2.5T (~220hp)
3.7 VQ with DI (~355hp base)

now those with 2900-3000 lbs could get interesting

Yes the Exoticspeed R2Titan Exhaust PWR exhaust

Not even worried about a new Z. We should all just get GTR's lol

U Mean 911 turbos...:stirthepot:

To much money. Gosh an exhaust for that car is like $10,000 :icon17:

Because German Racecar? :driving: I would totally do a 911 T, or a GTR (an AND wouldbe better IMO)

u guys see they are doing a novemeber 1 fast friday this week

aaand what would u guys thinking about doing a cruise soon? before winter hits

I'm tearing the car apart this weekend, so FF would be my last hoorah for a few weeks.

more interested to see potential for what the platform can become, less how it rolls off showroom floor.

IMO light, cheap, turbo's are what manufactures need to bring back youth.

and definitely more than 220. guessing 250.

hmmm not so hyped on these anymore. ya I want one. would I cut off a toe for one. hell no. way too $$$$. I'd take a hakosuka over a r35 any day of the week.

or i'd build 240z with rb26.

that's what I like to hear!! I know I'm not the only one who'd rather build my dream car, than over extend myself financially for someone else's used stock toy (let's face it, not going to have much left to modify it )

Multiple sources are saying now next Z will have no less power than current platform...

A final reminder! Looks like Saturday's rally is full BUT Sunday's rally on unpaved roads has openings.

I can't do the Fast Fridays this weekend I'll be working wooooh..... And depending on when you would want to do the cruise I'd be up for it.

This. Look at the way the youth has clung to the Subi twins. The car has to be affordable. At $30k for base, it's tough for the younger generation to get into a Z. The Z33 is just now to a point where it's affordable on the used market.

I love the GTR, but for the price of a used, higher-mileage one, I can build a super clean, low-mileage boosted Z that puts down better numbers without the maintenance costs that make me feel guilty about driving it.

I'm just gonna leave this here:
http://i.imgur.com/LrQRh8q.png

This time next year the GTR depreciation will fall a lot. the Nismo GTR will be out and we will be months away from the R36. I will be able to pick up a used GTR for about $45K to $50K with a $20K down payment. I'm looking at a $30K GTR W/ my down payment. I don't consider 35,000 miles a lot of miles for a GTR. Now I have not seen a FI Z come close to beating a GTR even FI TT 370z that traps 127 MPH didn't beat that tuned GTR. jus think if it faced a Full bolt on GTR. I'll take a bolt on GTR making 600 any day. Yes it cost more but not that much more. When your done with your build im sure your gonna be looking at 15K+ with out a built engine. The maintenance for the GTR is blown out of proportion and I can use the car as a DD and year around.


Plans for my GTR? take the car to Jacks in Colorado Springs for his $11,400 package. That includes his Drag 800 trans and the engine build with R&R labor, I-beam rods, pistons, head bolts, balance, bearings, gasket set and cleaning. So basically you drive the car in and then pick it up with a built engine and trans $11,400 later. The bottom end can hold 1300-1400hp without issue. trains would be the limitations so i'd keep the car sticking to the 800-900hp range. The Drag 800 trans holds 700 TQ. Then use the SBD850 Package for $10,295 that includes SBD850 Turbos, SBD FMIC Upgrade, SBD 64mm Turbo Inlets, TurboSmart Kompact BOV Upgrade, 90mm SBD Race Spec Exhaust, 90mm SBD Race Spec Midpipe, 76mm SBD Cast Downpipes, 1150cc SIR Injectors, SBD 290lph Fuel Pumps, SBD 3" Intakes with K&N Filters, ECUTek E-Tune by John Visconti

$21,695 later id have a GTR making at least 800 HP Trap over 150 MPH running 9's with my eyes closed.

If you want that set up in a Z well your gonna spend $45K
GTM VQ37VHR 800HP TWIN TURBO PACKAGE-M/T-GTR KILLER is 45K and that's not even 800 to the wheels!!

So even if I spend $50K on a GTR and another $22K ( ill round up) on mods I have a faster car that's rare and sexy and still come out cheaper.

I'm sure we have all paid at least 30K for our Z So add 45K for that GTM package and your at $75K.

FI 370z's cant even beat NA 5.0's im talking cams and heads and all!! Which they make near 480 to the wheels. Love FI Z's and love to see everyone doing it but not me :wtf2:

My single will handle well over 700 HP and I can promise you it wouldn't take a $35k motor to handle it. :stirthepot:

would take a 550whp 370 over a 700hp gtr tho. if ultimate speed is your goal, the gtr is the best car u can buy imo. but its just not a drivers car imo

and u can do 550whp in a 370z for about $15k (not the point tho)

man after the Z i still wanna go supra or 911 turbo. supra has always been a dream car to me. mild engine work and a single turbo and i'm in heaven

I'm with Edub in that when you get into that price range it is about emotional connection more for me than stats. I could buy one of the fastest cars out there but I'll end up buying what I feel most connected with and 911 turbo is one of those cars. I'd never turn down a GTR nor will I bash one, nor will I think less of someone who owns one. I do not have an emotional feeling for that car is all.

We aren't really comparing apples to apples here either....

2014 MSRP's
911 Turbo - $148k+
GTR - $100k+
370Z - $30k+

talking used prices tho. And u can easily get into a 996 turbo for $40k. 997 will be around $70k+. 996 turbo gets my vote

How can you say a GTR is not a drivers can tho? or not fun? Have you took a GTR around the track. So A car not having a 6speed makes it not a drivers car?

Is a 911 turbo a drivers car?

All around performance everything the car has to offer is the goal thats why i would take a 700hp GTR over a 550 Z. I just dont know what the Z has to offer that the GTR cant master even better.

But a 911 and a GTR are identical cars. granted the 911 curb weight. So what ever you bash about a GTR i mean your kinda bashing about the 911 too

Weather doesn't look terrible for tomorrow night. On the fence. Anyone going?

I kinda feel what Ethan's saying here. Then again, I've never taken a GTR around a track, so I can't honestly say I have a reference point. Yet, something makes me still want one. If they made a GTR that was a manual, I bet it would have even larger market appeal. And yes, that is the one thing that always made me shy away from one (at least when I used to be able to afford one.) I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

I'm thinking im gonna go tonight. don't know if i can meet up much before 7 tho. what time were u thinking about going?

Trust me the feeling of driving a GTR is something else....I had that same feeling for it not being a manual but once you get in and drive it, you immediately forget about it. GTR is still my dream car, just too bad i cant afford one.

I drove a Cayman, Cayman S and a 911 Cabriolet before deciding on the Z. I wasn't looking at cost of the vehicle, just for 'seat of the pants, wow factor'. Then it was look around and see what I spot around town. Lots of Caymans & 911s, not many Zs. I really liked the Cayman S, I'm still considering ordering one fully loaded with the yellow brakes, custom paint and interior. I'd love to drive a GTR just to have another reference point. That being said, since I like to DD my cars, having a GTR would probably just completely unhinge me, given that I can't stand the idiots that are allowed to drive here.... :icon14:

nope. those cars are such different machines. on paper, they might look similar, but there is a certain "feeling" that cars give you. kinda hard to explain.

for instance: if you push a gtr too hard into the corner, it will have loads of grip then eventually start to understeer letting u know you're pushing it too hard, a 911, on the other hand, will have loooooads of grip followed by promptly spinning and putting u *** first into a ditch.

now thats a terrible example, but its the only thing i could think of to explain the difference in a drivers car vs a gtr. both will get thru the corners very quickly, but that certain element of danger in the back of your head in the 911 adds a little excitement imo.

now i'm not saying the GTR is a bad car or anything. hell i'd drive one, but i do understand why people say they are big video games

That was what I noticed about the 911 I drove. The car tends to 'lead' from the rear, it's real easy to crack the backend loose, kind of like the old AC Cobras. I couldn't upset the Cayman since it's mid-engined. I'd like to take a GTR out for a drive, just to see what I'm missing. :icon17:

So not true... I'm on the GTR forum more then im on here and you can ditch a GTR just like any other car. really don't feel like finding videos n a Friday night to show you tho

Even if the car had a manual ppl would still find something to complain about and a reason not to buy it. A GTR being a drivers car is not gonna sell the car. A manual GTR would be so much slower. The 7At 370z takes off on a M6 370z a dig or roll. Horsepower sales cars just ask the 370z and the Mustang 5.0 right now.

Doing some research and was wondering if there is a place in KC that specifically stores tires and rims for a reasonable price? :tiphat:

That stores them? Like you own them and just want somewhere to put them? I would imagine any storage facility could do that, if that is what you are referring to.

I agree I could just rent a place of my own but I figure it would be cheaper and less time consuming if I pay someone that has their own facility and stores lots of tires.

them's fightin words!!! :stirthepot:

but yes a GTR would be much slower with a six speed

Well that my friend I am unable to assist you in. I have only been in Overland Park for a year and a half. I never really looked into it sorry bud.