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MyKindaGuise 05-24-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2332244)
Also I bought the kit today so there's no turning back now :3


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Damn. Guess your cashing in all of your chips now.

Please get this install before the beach trip!

dmhenderson 05-24-2013 09:05 PM

I looked at a couple SC kits and I've been 100% positive this is the way I want to go for a while now. No regrets


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Kirkster 05-24-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2332246)
There are GTM badges that go on the piping. I asked them to do a GTM logo on the IC in the powder and they said "lol no"


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No GTM badges on mine...

Woot!!!

dmhenderson 05-24-2013 09:17 PM

Well I could leave them off but they're nice for showing.


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Chuck33079 05-24-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2332235)
It's the nickel and dime stuff that's starting to add up

Welcome to boosting a z.

dmhenderson 05-24-2013 10:10 PM

Oh it's happening. Just seeing how bad it's going to deplete my savings at this point.


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dmhenderson 05-24-2013 10:14 PM

I'm gonna buy bits and pieces until the kit shows up. Want khoi's discounted oil pan spacer this weekend and I'm gonna hit up Z1 to see if they'll cut me a break on an oil cooler., I've spent a decent amount there.


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dmhenderson 05-24-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2332254)
Damn. Guess your cashing in all of your chips now.

Please get this install before the beach trip!

Hypothetically speaking, we should absolutely race in a legal, controlled environment once both of our FI builds are done.


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MyKindaGuise 05-24-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2332356)
Hypothetically speaking, we should absolutely race in a legal, controlled environment once both of our FI builds are done.


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Hahaha "legal" for sure. Maybe you can take a crack against the 458 Italia or the ZR1 too.

Kirkster 05-25-2013 09:54 AM

Not seeing the need for the oil pan but that is just me. The oil cooler and lines added another quart for me...

Chuck33079 05-25-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 2332649)
Not seeing the need for the oil pan but that is just me. The oil cooler and lines added another quart for me...

The oil pan seems like more of a "want" than a "need" for me. I'd do the oil cooler and a radiator first and see if my temps were ok.

dmhenderson 05-25-2013 03:23 PM

Recommend a radiator?

Chuck33079 05-25-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2332891)
Recommend a radiator?

If you live somewhere that gets hot, yeah. If it doesn't get too hot in the summer you might be ok. I'm in Texas, so it's pretty much a requirement.

dmhenderson 05-25-2013 03:36 PM

I'm in Maryland so it's not usually THAT brutal but you never know. Any particular radiator I should look at?

Chuck33079 05-25-2013 03:42 PM

I've got a CSF and it's been great. Fits with stock fans, etc. GTM's got one but it's fairly pricey and I believe you might have to use their fans. The CSF was $600-$650 or so, but it's not really a DIY since you have to evacuate/recharge the AC system when you install it since the radiator is attached to the AC condensor. You may be ok without one since it's a SC setup. My turbos are oil and water cooled, so they ask a lot more of the cooling system. It won't ever hurt to add a radiator. If I were in your shoes, I'd hold off and see if temps are ok at the hottest part of the summer up there.

dmhenderson 05-25-2013 03:51 PM

Ill go with the AAM oil pan and oil cooler. If that doesn't do the trick, ill look at radiators


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Chuck33079 05-25-2013 03:53 PM

Does that pan hang lower than stock? I've always been terrified of the oil pans and spacers that make the oil pan the lowest point of the car.

MyKindaGuise 05-25-2013 05:00 PM

The oil pan is great because it provides better cooling and it is pretapped for oil feed lines and stuff. Also with zspeed shroud I wouldn't worry about it. Plus DM you aren't lowered at all.

Chuck33079 05-25-2013 05:03 PM

I'm not sure if the zspeed panel works with a significantly lower oil pan. It's pretty close. If the OEM panel fits without bending the hell out of it, the zspeed will fit.

MyKindaGuise 05-25-2013 05:51 PM

I'm not sure how it will fit. I mean its only a spacer so might drop it an inch?

GaleForce 05-25-2013 07:00 PM

I think version V2 has been redesigned to accommodate lower oil pans.

Edit, yes, verified via their description,

ZSpeed Performance Aluminum Engine Splash Shield 370Z Nissan

dmhenderson 05-25-2013 10:56 PM

Too bad the nismo version is $400 or w/e


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MyKindaGuise 05-25-2013 11:01 PM

Mark, Pat and I made some good progess today. Check out the new pics. We did injectors and fitted the up pipe and down pipe and some other *****.

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 12:11 PM

I saw the stuff you posted on facebook. Looks great. You'll be done LONG before my SC kit is even built and shipped.

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 12:13 PM

So was talking about gauges to a friend yesterday and he asked if there's a gauge cluster solution that replaces the OEM gauges - there are several for the WRX. I said I didn't think so and if there is, it's insanely expensive.

Short of buying individual gauges, do I have other options?

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 02:26 PM

I'm assuming I'm also gonna need some sort of grille to protect the IC and oil cooler. I want a nice black powdered mesh grille.
I could buy wire from a hardware store but I'd rather have something powdered and pre-fit. Ideas?

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 04:20 PM

Z1 34 row oil cooler with thermostatic plating = $628.00

Kill me.

MyKindaGuise 05-26-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2333866)
I'm assuming I'm also gonna need some sort of grille to protect the IC and oil cooler. I want a nice black powdered mesh grille.
I could buy wire from a hardware store but I'd rather have something powdered and pre-fit. Ideas?

I went to home depot and bought diamond shaped aluminum mesh and the form fitted it to the inside of my bumper.

Also I cannot comment on the gauge question.

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 04:30 PM

BJ Zacharias (Doran Racing driver) says there are few options for gauges unless you buy the AIM digital MDX - or whatever it's called - solution that starts at $1100.

My only thing with the grille is that it can't be silver. Has to be black and paint won't hold up there unless I clear it so it'll have to be powder.

Z Stig 05-26-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2333919)
Z1 34 row oil cooler with thermostatic plating = $628.00

Kill me.

It's soooooo worth it! Even on my NA.

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 04:39 PM

I just emailed Z1 to see if they'd cut me a break on the price. I've spent a bunch of money with them over the last 3 years.

Kirkster 05-26-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2333866)
I'm assuming I'm also gonna need some sort of grille to protect the IC and oil cooler. I want a nice black powdered mesh grille.
I could buy wire from a hardware store but I'd rather have something powdered and pre-fit. Ideas?

I did not put any protection in front of my IC, no issues and only have had to straiten out a few fins in 2 years...

Chuck33079 05-26-2013 08:04 PM

I'd be interested in some sort of screen to protect the ic as well. Mines coated black, and there's a few chips in it. Let us know what you find.

Kirkster 05-26-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2333779)
So was talking about gauges to a friend yesterday and he asked if there's a gauge cluster solution that replaces the OEM gauges - there are several for the WRX. I said I didn't think so and if there is, it's insanely expensive.

Short of buying individual gauges, do I have other options?

Not for the Three gauge cluster. You have to rip them all out and put in individual gauges.

It sucks and that is why I have not done it yet... I would love to get rid of the POS stock clock. but I like the stock temp and voltage gauge, but you just can't get rid of one...

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 08:36 PM

Well I can't run without boost/AFR gauges so I don't even know. I will not run a boost controller because I will get mad/stupid and blow the motor up but the gauges need to be there don't they?

My HU has a clock on it so I don't care about that at all. I don't really care about voltage either. What I want to see is boost, AFR, oil temp, engine temp and that's about it.

Chuck33079 05-26-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2334131)
I will not run a boost controller because I will get mad/stupid and blow the motor up

Its a supercharger. You don't need a boost controller.

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 08:44 PM

I thought psi was a thing for both SC and TC. Only difference being that mine is accessory belt driven vs exhaust pressure driven.

Chuck33079 05-26-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2334140)
I thought psi was a thing for both SC and TC. Only difference being that mine is accessory belt driven vs exhaust pressure driven.

You're correct, it's pulley driven. You only need a boost controller for turbos. The pulley is what determines your boost pressure. You can't run more or less boost than the pulley will allow.

SS_Firehawk 05-26-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2334140)
I thought psi was a thing for both SC and TC. Only difference being that mine is accessory belt driven vs exhaust pressure driven.

It's a centrifugal SC, you gear the SC to the motor. As the motor increases RPM, the SC increases boost pressure. At redline, the SC makes maximum boost.

dmhenderson 05-26-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2334142)
You're correct, it's pulley driven. You only need a boost controller for turbos. The pulley is what determines your boost pressure. You can't run more or less boost than the pulley will allow.

Wait..wait, you are cracking the pulley mystery. Can one of you explain this? GTM asked me to specify pulley size for the kit. There were like 5 options. I want maximum hp without risking blowing up the motor.

Suggestions?


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