HyperFest 13: Saturday June 15th

ResIpsa · 06-16-2013, 11:48 AM

Yeah it really sucked. It was one thing to have a mechanical failure ruin my weekend but to then have a freak accident in the paddock. The pointless damage to my car…the embarrassment…

Man, I could have run someone over or taken out some $100,000.00 race car. At least no one got hurt other than my badly skinned knee (from being dragged about 20 feet).

MightyBobo · 06-16-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Yeah it really sucked. It was one thing to have a mechanical failure ruin my weekend but to then have a freak accident in the paddock. The pointless damage to my car…the embarrassment…

Man, I could have run someone over or taken out some $100,000.00 race car. At least no one got hurt other than my badly skinned knee (from being dragged about 20 feet).

Yeah, definitely.

If it makes you feel better, when we were there a month ago, we visited the gift shop at Main where some event was going on. We park, get out, and here a loud KER-KLUNK - some dude didnt secure his car properly onto his trailer, and it rolled right off and fell a solid 2 feet to the ground. Saw him sprint to hop into the window and pull the brake before it went too far.

ZCarMan · 06-16-2013, 01:00 PM

ResIpsa, I'm very sorry to hear of the failure of your CSC that caused a potential catastrophy at the track. I am happy to hear you were not injured along with anyone else. Cars can always be repaired by flesh and bones is a different story.

I would think this is a major safety issue that Nissan North America would want to know about, considering this could have caused life threatening injuries in the worst of situations. Anyhow, glad you are safe and insurance will cover the damage.

MightyBobo · 06-16-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

ResIpsa, I'm very sorry to hear of the failure of your CSC that caused a potential catastrophy at the track. I am happy to hear you were not injured along with anyone else. Cars can always be repaired by flesh and bones is a different story.

I would think this is a major safety issue that Nissan North America would want to know about, considering this could have caused life threatening injuries in the worst of situations. Anyhow, glad you are safe and insurance will cover the damage.

I dunno, Jon - the clutch safety switch is pretty much universal across cars. The only way for the computer to figure out if it should start the car, is if the clutch pedal is physically to the floor. Otherwise, maybe they'd have to install a sensor into the transmission that detects when the clutch is actually disengaged? But I don't think a single manual transmission car has that. Nissan would just argue back that their safety device worked perfectly: it sensed the clutch was to the floor, and it started the car.

Honestly, as much tough love as it is to think about it, it really was user error, but it's one that almost any one of us might do, forgetting about that switch.

ResIpsa · 06-16-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I dunno, Jon - the clutch safety switch is pretty much universal across cars. The only way for the computer to figure out if it should start the car, is if the clutch pedal is physically to the floor. Otherwise, maybe they'd have to install a sensor into the transmission that detects when the clutch is actually disengaged? But I don't think a single manual transmission car has that. Nissan would just argue back that their safety device worked perfectly: it sensed the clutch was to the floor, and it started the car.

Honestly, as much tough love as it is to think about it, it really was user error, but it's one that almost any one of us might do, forgetting about that switch.

I tend to agree. That switch is there to prevent exactly what happened to me. The fact that it is now universal shows that this must have been a real problem in the past.

The real problem with our cars is that they have too much torque. If Nissan had only installed a weaker motor my car would have quickly stalled without me depressing the gas pedal!

MightyBobo · 06-16-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa

I tend to agree. That switch is there to prevent exactly what happened to me. The fact that it is now universal shows that this must have been a real problem in the past.

The real problem with our cars is that they have too much torque. If Nissan had only installed a weaker motor my car would have quickly stalled without me depressing the gas pedal!

Yeah, the ORIGINAL problem was people starting their cars without depressing the clutch - so you could argue that the problem was already fixed lol.

Lol to the second part

ResIpsa · 06-16-2013, 06:53 PM

Bobo, have you had any problems with your clutch master or slave cylinder?

ZCarMan · 06-17-2013, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I dunno, Jon - the clutch safety switch is pretty much universal across cars. The only way for the computer to figure out if it should start the car, is if the clutch pedal is physically to the floor. Otherwise, maybe they'd have to install a sensor into the transmission that detects when the clutch is actually disengaged? But I don't think a single manual transmission car has that. Nissan would just argue back that their safety device worked perfectly: it sensed the clutch was to the floor, and it started the car.

Honestly, as much tough love as it is to think about it, it really was user error, but it's one that almost any one of us might do, forgetting about that switch.

I see your point. It does seem to me that there have been several people on this forum who have had failures of the CSC but nothing in terms of the dangerous situation that ResIpsa encountered. If anything, its a good reminder to anyone of what could happen in a similar situation.

Sales@AAMComp · 06-17-2013, 08:45 AM

sunburn, check

ZCarMan · 06-17-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp

sunburn, check

For Asians, sunburn is just a sun tan screaming to get out!

06-16-2013, 11:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 339	Yeah it really sucked. It was one thing to have a mechanical failure ruin my weekend but to then have a freak accident in the paddock. The pointless damage to my car…the embarrassment… Man, I could have run someone over or taken out some $100,000.00 race car. At least no one got hurt other than my badly skinned knee (from being dragged about 20 feet). __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

06-16-2013, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 26	ResIpsa, I'm very sorry to hear of the failure of your CSC that caused a potential catastrophy at the track. I am happy to hear you were not injured along with anyone else. Cars can always be repaired by flesh and bones is a different story. I would think this is a major safety issue that Nissan North America would want to know about, considering this could have caused life threatening injuries in the worst of situations. Anyhow, glad you are safe and insurance will cover the damage. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

06-16-2013, 06:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 339	Bobo, have you had any problems with your clutch master or slave cylinder? __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

06-17-2013, 08:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sales@AAMComp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Annapolis Junction, MD Posts: 4,079 Drives: GT-R Rep Power: 21	sunburn, check ZCarMan likes this. __________________ Tyler Day, Technical Sales TylerD@aamcompetition.com 301-497-9214 Direct AAM Competition \| YouTube channel \| LIKE us on Facebook!

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