Tools at Marley Station at a car meet

eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:03 PM

Bashing these guys for the stunt they pulled and not looking at ourselves would be a hypocrisy.

Masa · 05-20-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Bashing these guys for the stunt they pulled and not looking at ourselves would be a hypocrisy.

eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa

The truth hurts bro..

Z Stig · 05-20-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Bashing these guys for the stunt they pulled and not looking at ourselves would be hypocrisy.

Dee, do you listen to yourself as you are typing or just let it fall out of your head through your fingers? Sometimes I think you are trying to rile some of us up? Well, I hate to say that it worked for me this time! So here goes...

Comparing me driving a little over the speed limit on fairly desolate roads but maintaining complete control over my vehicle and people drifting or doing donuts in a parking lot, that is not specifically isolated from the public for an event, is rediculous! They ARE NOT the same thing! When people are drifting and doing donuts, they are pushing the vehicle past it's performance design objective and most likely close to the driver's ability to control the car. Donuts cause smoke and diminished visibility for the driver. We have all seen the videos of donuts gone wrong in public places.

What I have noticed about our group spirited driving, is that it is reserved for desolate roads with no cross traffic and it slows down near populated areas, also when traffic appears. Most of the drives are spent near the speed limit. I want to continue to have car shows and gatherings. As people are caught doing donuts and drifting in parking lots, then the venues themselves will dry up and not allow gatherings. The venues cannot have the liability of allowing drivers behaving that way. I will be surprised if the Mega Meet is allowed to be back at that same venue next year. If that behavior becomes more noticeable, we'll become the addition to the "No Skateboarding or bike riding on the sidewalk" signs in store parking lots.

Yes, I agree that opinions should be allowed, but insinuating that we, in MAZOC, are hooligans and hipocrites because we are car guys that enjoy our performance cars is rediculous. I just attended the drive on the return from ZDayZ where we (4 MAZOC cars) were passed by several mini-vans and large SUVs because they were willing to drive much more over the speed limit than we were. It was nice to be driving close to the speed limit and not having to "panic brake" when we saw a police vehicle.

I am a little upset with myself that I let this thread get to me enough that I wrote this, and you may get irritated with me; but I am betting that it won't be nearly as irritated as I got with you about this topic. Feel free to PM if you want to "chat" about this further.

Not trying to

just responding to your messages about this.

eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Stig

Dee, do you listen to yourself as you are typing or just let it fall out of your head through your fingers? Sometimes I think you are trying to rile some of us up? Well, I hate to say that it worked for me this time! So here goes...

Comparing me driving a little over the speed limit on fairly desolate roads but maintaining complete control over my vehicle and people drifting or doing donuts in a parking lot, that is not specifically isolated from the public for an event, is rediculous! They ARE NOT the same thing! When people are drifting and doing donuts, they are pushing the vehicle past it's performance design objective and most likely close to the driver's ability to control the car. Donuts cause smoke and diminished visibility for the driver. We have all seen the videos of donuts gone wrong in public places.

What I have noticed about our group spirited driving, is that it is reserved for desolate roads with no cross traffic and it slows down near populated areas, also when traffic appears. Most of the drives are spent near the speed limit. I want to continue to have car shows and gatherings. As people are caught doing donuts and drifting in parking lots, then the venues themselves will dry up and not allow gatherings. The venues cannot have the liability of allowing drivers behaving that way. I will be surprised if the Mega Meet is allowed to be back at that same venue next year. If that behavior becomes more noticeable, we'll become the addition to the "No Skateboarding or bike riding on the sidewalk" signs in store parking lots.

Yes, I agree that opinions should be allowed, but insinuating that we, in MAZOC, are hooligans and hipocrites because we are car guys that enjoy our performance cars is rediculous. I just attended the drive on the return from ZDayZ where we (4 MAZOC cars) were passed by several mini-vans and large SUVs because they were willing to drive much more over the speed limit than we were. It was nice to be driving close to the speed limit and not having to "panic brake" when we saw a police vehicle.

I am a little upset with myself that I let this thread get to me enough that I wrote this, and you may get irritated with me; but I am betting that it won't be nearly as irritated as I got with you about this topic. Feel free to PM if you want to "chat" about this further.

Not trying to

just responding to your messages about this.

You must of missed it when I called the MAZOC members hooligans and hipocrits (ohh wait, I didn't! hello?!!?). Just wanted to clear that up. I also said, what they did was wrong and I didnt condone it, but I also said we're definitely NOT saints either, and yes believe it or not, I have been on a cruise (how quickly we forget) and I'll agree with you, they are not highly traffic roads, BUT someone could easily go off the road, or someone could pull out of their driveway, and could get hurt, the possibility is always there.. so to say nothing could happen because our cruises are on less traffic roads is naive.. just saying.

And one other thing.. you spell rediculous, ridiculous.

Z Stig · 05-20-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

You must of missed it when I called the MAZOC members hooligans and hipocrits (ohh wait, I didn't! hello?!!?). Just wanted to clear that up. I also said, what they did was wrong and I didnt condone it, but I also said we're definitely NOT saints either, and yes believe it or not, I have been on a cruise (how quickly we forget) and I'll agree with you, they are not highly traffic roads, BUT someone could easily go off the road, or someone could pull out of their driveway, and could get hurt, the possibility is always there.. so to say nothing could happen because our cruises are on less traffic roads is naive.. just saying.

And one other thing.. you spell rediculous, ridiculous.

OK, I am so sorry if I put words in your post! Yes, you did not literally "type" that, but the insinuation was there, and that is what I take umbrage with.

Thanks for the correction on my choice of spelling. (please see my other recent post).

aniceh · 05-20-2013, 06:25 PM

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You must of missed it ...

And one other thing.. you spell rediculous, ridiculous.

And another thing..must've is a contraction of "must have," not "must of." "Must of" clearly doesn't make any sense. Just sayin'.

But I don't guess grammar police on the iggy list of an offender make a difference.

1st · 05-20-2013, 10:46 PM

Woo Hoo for the C63 and the 370z.

I hope they make a clean get away.

Masa · 05-20-2013, 12:25 PM

eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:26 PM

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Masa · 05-20-2013, 12:27 PM

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eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:27 PM

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Masa · 05-20-2013, 12:28 PM

eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:29 PM

eastwest2300 · 05-20-2013, 12:35 PM

The point is, irregardless if its drifting or "spirited driving," wrong is wrong, they're both dangerous, with people around, or by yourself, its dangerous.. and I again, Im not saying I support they did, I just thought the video was cool.

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,020 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684552	The point is, irregardless if its drifting or "spirited driving," wrong is wrong, they're both dangerous, with people around, or by yourself, its dangerous.. and I again, Im not saying I support they did, I just thought the video was cool. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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