Interest in New Intake Design? Looking for a test car!
 

Hey there,

I'm just looking to see if anyone in the MD area would be interested in being the test monkey for a new intake design.

Swift Racing is making this beautiful intake, which includes high velocity stack airhorn and heat shield/resonanace chamber for the FR-S/BRZ.

Something like this would be awesome for our cars too.

Detailed pics and more info here SRT FR-S/BRZ High Flow Intake System R&D - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB

I'm expecting our design to have a filter inside the resonance chamber rather than that 90* bend (only there to duct air from the OEM location on the FR-S).

I'm envisioning something that follows OEM path, replaces the OEM airbox with the horn, and then either utilizes a filter in front of where the resonance box would link to the OEM bumper duct, or perhaps a cone filter that is inside the chamber (which would be located where the OEM airbox is currently), mounted to the velocity stack.

Here's why I'm so interested in this design for us:

***Potential Advantages over SRI or modified OEM (e.g., tubes plus panel filter) type intakes***

1. Relative to SRI's, heat shielding that fully encloses filter and mates to OEM ductwork (could be powder coated black to appear truly OEM as well!)

2. Relative to both, airhorn velocity stack should net superior airflow and therefore more power.


***Potential Advantages over G3 type intakes***

1. No need to remove bumper to install or to clean fliters.

2. Absolutely zero chance of hydrolock

3. Straighter, more direct path for air to motor.


I'm just in the discussion stages with Swift, but to even attempt it, they need a test car for fitting.

So if you would like to do that, post here and or/PM me and I'll see if we can get this project underway :tiphat:

Worst case scenario, nothing comes of this. Best case scenario, we have another intake option for those of us who prefer to keep it simple and OEM looking.

I think I might be interested in this...it sounds sweet.

This looks and sounds interesting. I've got a stock 2011 Nismo and I've been looking for an intake solution to start the mod bug.

Cool! Keep the interest coming and the thread alive -- am hoping we will hear something from Swift later this coming week.

Tell me those airhorns don't look cool as ****! I'm not much of a "show off my underhood" kind of guy, but those pieces are works of art, AND should net decent gains, as well as sound amazing.

I'm envisioning something like this crude picture --

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...rn-concept.jpg

Everything would be sealed, so no hot air can get in. Could even have the cool plexiglass top so you can ogle the air horn, as on the FR-S version.

i'd do it but unless you can promise HP gains over my stillen G3 I'll pass.

^^^ Won't know until it's built and tested, but match or exceed is the goal.

Actually, I'd like to see a shootout vs the G3's anyway...

I was first to show interest, so dont forget 'ol eastwest

E/W doesn't have an intake yet - use him.

EXACTLY:happydance::happydance:

Understood -- I'll keep you guys posted :tup:

If you want to hack up my car to work on it, I can afford to lose it for a while for testing. As long as it's done before/after Oct 6/7 when my HPDE at Summit Point is happening.

Thanks bro..:tup:

obviously not the first to express interest but still interested.

so the idea here is to build a cold air intake that lives in the engine bay? I'm failing to see the point of this design otherwise or how it is improvement over existing designs. On that brz you might as well just hook the cone filter up right up to the manifold. Its been a while since I've had thermo dynamics in college and I might be a bit rusty but as far as I can tell that box is doing nothing other than looking awkward. I'm not trying to bash the design, just haven't been able to wrap my mind around how it's better than whats already available and would love to be educated.

I'd do this for the G3 comparison, but with the Z being my only car I can't really have it sitting in the shop for a while getting tested. Either way, I'm in for results. I don't see how this will do as well as the G3's either.

Read my points in first post, click on link to see example of Swift's work. The key is the elliptical bellmouth design for improved flow dynamics and complete enclosure plus OEM ducting for optimal heat shielding. Also, ease of installation and cleaning and pretty underhood bling.

Whether or not it actually outperforms any existing intake is an empirical question, which cannot be answered without building and testing it... hence the thread.

I have no pre-existing relationship with Swift -- just saw the design and thought it would be a great option for us...

Eastwest -- YGPM :tiphat:

Unlike you Blades, they can have my Z for as long as they want, I have the S2000. I think this sounds cool, so Im down for it.

Thanks Jordo, I got both your PM's, I'll be calling them tomorrow to hopefully set something up.

Unlike you, I have intakes installed already. Did you put a special request in to have them hand you the intakes uninstalled after they finish development? Trollolololol :stirthepot:

Everything I do, I do for you buddy... dont need no HFCs, dont need this and dont need that, all i need to do is smoke your little runned down Z, and life is good. :owned::owned:

Looking at the sketch, they're going for a velocity stack setup. Just do a search on google and you'll learn all you need to know about the science behind velocity stacks.

In for dyno results.

Is it gonna work?

Talk is cheap bro. I can back mine up, you can't do sh1t :owned:

Ok let's take this to another thread since this one is actually trying to be useful.

I'll waste some gas smoking you on the track, Im just gonna have to... trolls need to be trolled!:icon17:

fwiw the sites I've come across tend to say that a good velocity stack design that is properly tuned for the motor they're on are good for a 2-4% gain. Don't know how true that is but on a Nismo that would be anywhere from 7 to 14 hp.

Nice!! heck yeah man. Thats sweet.

Track? **** you wont even go on a cruise :-p

:owned:

hahaha... dude, all I need is one run to smoke his azz, thats it... forget wasting a tank of gas on a roadtrip you fellas do each week...forget that sh1t.:bowrofl:

Why waste your time with this intake when you're gonna leave your car parked to save gas money instead of driving it? :icon17:

So when the trolls (that be you) come talking trash, talking about my car is this and that, and lets go to the track...blah blah blah... I can be ready, without all the wear and tear on the Z..

Dont worry, my Z wants some, and you'll get your chance, so come get some...

Sounds like an interesting project. You might want to google around these forums for the custom intakes that Modshack made a while back, some of the concepts and lessons are similar.

If the G3's suck water, you've already got other problems (like, you drove into a lake). The filters are up on top of the crash beam in a pocket, the water has to go above the crash beam line and reverse direction to reach them. I've driven the G3 in some pretty torrential conditions, never an issue. Pic from out my windshield driving around with newly-installed G3's a few years ago:

http://www.the370z.com/members/wstar...2280-rain3.jpg

I feel all of this frustration between you two, D/Shahid. When are you guys going to challenge each others to fisticuffs....or admit that the sexual tension between you two is at the breaking point?

At a certain someone's housewarming orgy :roflpuke2:

:icon18:

Im gonna toss his azz in the anacostia river!:tup:

Meeting up with Swift Tech tonight at 630pm, they wanna look at the car... Im pretty stoked, thanks Jordo!

Uhhh... anyway.

Sorry for anyone trying to PM me -- box is now open.

Guys, this is different from existing SRI's because the plan is:

1. Elliptical bellmouth velocity stack -- that should make a big difference in airflow.

2. The plan is to COMPLETELY SEAL to the OEM airducts -- that means NO underhood heat will be drawn in.

Every other SRI either fails to fully use the OEM ducting or fails to completely seal out underhood heat, with the exception of the OEM airbox, which doesn't have the flow advantage of a big CNC machined velocity stack.

3. Potential advantage over G3's = ease of installation and cleaning, and hopefully equal (or greater?) power. No way to know without building and testing.

Regarding the hydrolock issue, although I'd say the G3's have the best and safest design of any "filter outside the bumper" CAI, if the filter is outside the bumper, the risk is always there.

If the argument doesn't apply to the G#'s, it absolutely applies to the other CAI's for this car.

In either case, that is less of a merit to me than the ease of installation and cleaning if the filters are kept underhood and temps are kept cool.

Whether or not this works out is again something to be empirically tested. I'm just trying to get the project going. No harm in trying, and you guys know i like to evaluate the value of something based on clear dynos.

If someone doesn't want it or prefers the G3's or whatever, that's fine. This is just potentially another option, and based on fluid dynamics theory and basic tuning principles, it should work very well.

Again, I have no prior relationship with Swift -- just saw what they were building for the FR-S, and thought why not see if they'll make one for us.