Interest is New Intake Design? Looking for a test car!

eastwest2300 · 08-21-2012, 03:43 PM

Dude, that picture looks sick.

Cmike2780 · 08-21-2012, 03:43 PM

Yup, that's what I was thinking. This would be something I'd definitely be interested in. It can't cost a more than the current CAI offerings like the Gen 3's though.

b1adesofcha0s · 08-21-2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Yup, that's what I was thinking. This would be something I'd definitely be interested in. It can't cost a more than the current CAI offerings like the Gen 3's though.

Yeah anything more than that is overpriced anyways for potentially very minimal gains if any.

After reading up on velocity stacks a little bit (ok I just read the wiki page

) this looks to be promising

Jordo! · 08-21-2012, 03:56 PM

^^^ Yep -- the primary goal here is improved flow without sacrificing air temps, with the secondary goals of ease of installation and cleaning.

As to price -- I made a point of mentioning to Swift that it needs to come in around or cheaper than the G3's to be competitive, so we'll see what they can do.

But, yeah -- that thing is a work of art! If they make the plexiglass cover for us, we can admire the lovely work while it's installed.

The real question is whether a cone element can be mated to it or if they can just make a screen for a panel filter. Either should be fine -- guess we just have to see what they come up with.

TenaciousZ · 08-21-2012, 04:16 PM

I'm in for updates.

I always thought the velocity stacks on s2k's were awesome.

remember reading that preludes and s2000s were seeing huge improvements in pedal response.

eastwest2300 · 08-21-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPoppa

I'm in for updates.

I always thought the velocity stacks on s2k's were awesome.

remember reading that preludes and s2000s were seeing huge improvements in pedal response.

Thats because the S2000 is a badass car.

eastwest2300 · 08-21-2012, 07:22 PM

Just got back from Swift Racing Technology... the shop is badass, and the cars were fricken awesome.. I was very impressed, they do excellent work. Everything from intakes, turbos to exhausts.. Really really cool stuff.. They'll be doing work on my Z, I cant wait. Its gonna be awesome.

Jordo! · 08-21-2012, 07:58 PM

^^^ Great!

A few more important details:

Before anything gets fabbed -

Diameter of the intake tube must match OEM otherwise tuning will absolutely be required; same for location and orientation of the MAF sensors. They're CNC'ing everything, so that shouldn't be hard to do (and they probably already know this... but never hurts to make sure).

After the prototype is made --

You will probably need to do 3 pulls for each run to see changes -- the ECU doesn't adjust immediately (true, even with tuning). There are other transient modifiers that take a few runs to "self-adjust".

Also, be sure to keep oil temps right around 200* F, not too much cooler or hotter, and do all runs in same gear (either 4th or 5th is fine).

I'm hoping you guys can find a dynojet, but really any dyno will do so long as baseline and Swift intake runs are done under same conditions.

If you can do it on a dynojet, please send me the drf's (actual datafiles) to jlitman@mail.usf.edu when you do the runs. I'll make detailed comparison graphs and post them.

Also, if you can get pics as the build of the prototype comes together that would be awesome! I can post those too if you like

eastwest2300 · 08-21-2012, 08:13 PM

Pics will be coming when we start, we're still a little bit of time away from touching the car, soo everyone please be patient. I gotta get the car back to stock before we even do anything.

b1adesofcha0s · 08-21-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Pics will be coming when we start, we're still a little bit of time away from touching the car, soo everyone please be patient. I gotta get the car back to stock before we even do anything.

So you've found an excuse to now uninstall the mods that you actually managed to install on your car? Trollolololing

eastwest2300 · 08-21-2012, 10:20 PM

nope... i found every reason to uninstall everything to get YOU on the track soo now Im guaranteed to dust that little automatic Z you got...

eastwest2300 · 08-24-2012, 02:52 PM

All right fellas, thanks to Jordo, I got the OEM air tubes, and filters.. gotta get them installed, and hopefully Bobo can square me away with the OEM exhaust.

Jordo! · 08-24-2012, 07:02 PM

Just spoke with Swift -- looks like they are on board with the way I am envisioning the intake design. Project is very much underway

I've stressed the importance of testing and comparing the new intake to competitors to validate its merits, so this should lead to some rigorous R&D to get the best possible design for us

Eastwest -- great job! Looking forward to more details as things come together

ZForce · 08-31-2012, 12:25 AM

Interesting, subd

Things I would be looking for:

air flow
gains
heat soak
sound
throttle response
ease of filter maintenance
hydro lock
cost

Is it plug n play ? or tune required?

eastwest2300 · 08-31-2012, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce

Interesting, subd

Things I would be looking for:

air flow
gains
heat soak
sound
throttle response
ease of filter maintenance
hydro lock
cost

Is it plug n play ? or tune required?

We'll soon find out..I'll keep everyone posted!

08-21-2012, 03:43 PM	#46 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,972 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	Dude, that picture looks sick. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

08-21-2012, 03:43 PM	#47 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Yup, that's what I was thinking. This would be something I'd definitely be interested in. It can't cost a more than the current CAI offerings like the Gen 3's though. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

08-21-2012, 03:56 PM	#49 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	^^^ Yep -- the primary goal here is improved flow without sacrificing air temps, with the secondary goals of ease of installation and cleaning. As to price -- I made a point of mentioning to Swift that it needs to come in around or cheaper than the G3's to be competitive, so we'll see what they can do. But, yeah -- that thing is a work of art! If they make the plexiglass cover for us, we can admire the lovely work while it's installed. The real question is whether a cone element can be mated to it or if they can just make a screen for a panel filter. Either should be fine -- guess we just have to see what they come up with. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

08-21-2012, 04:16 PM	#50 (permalink)
TenaciousZ Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 160 Drives: Black 09 sp/tour/nav Rep Power: 15	I'm in for updates. I always thought the velocity stacks on s2k's were awesome. remember reading that preludes and s2000s were seeing huge improvements in pedal response. __________________ 09 370Z Black Sport/Touring/Navi Red Stitching

08-21-2012, 07:22 PM	#52 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,972 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	Just got back from Swift Racing Technology... the shop is badass, and the cars were fricken awesome.. I was very impressed, they do excellent work. Everything from intakes, turbos to exhausts.. Really really cool stuff.. They'll be doing work on my Z, I cant wait. Its gonna be awesome. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

08-21-2012, 07:58 PM	#53 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	^^^ Great! A few more important details: Before anything gets fabbed - Diameter of the intake tube must match OEM otherwise tuning will absolutely be required; same for location and orientation of the MAF sensors. They're CNC'ing everything, so that shouldn't be hard to do (and they probably already know this... but never hurts to make sure). After the prototype is made -- You will probably need to do 3 pulls for each run to see changes -- the ECU doesn't adjust immediately (true, even with tuning). There are other transient modifiers that take a few runs to "self-adjust". Also, be sure to keep oil temps right around 200* F, not too much cooler or hotter, and do all runs in same gear (either 4th or 5th is fine). I'm hoping you guys can find a dynojet, but really any dyno will do so long as baseline and Swift intake runs are done under same conditions. If you can do it on a dynojet, please send me the drf's (actual datafiles) to jlitman@mail.usf.edu when you do the runs. I'll make detailed comparison graphs and post them. Also, if you can get pics as the build of the prototype comes together that would be awesome! I can post those too if you like __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 08-21-2012 at 08:01 PM.

08-21-2012, 08:13 PM	#54 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,972 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	Pics will be coming when we start, we're still a little bit of time away from touching the car, soo everyone please be patient. I gotta get the car back to stock before we even do anything. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

08-21-2012, 10:20 PM	#56 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,972 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	nope... i found every reason to uninstall everything to get YOU on the track soo now Im guaranteed to dust that little automatic Z you got... __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

08-24-2012, 02:52 PM	#57 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,972 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	All right fellas, thanks to Jordo, I got the OEM air tubes, and filters.. gotta get them installed, and hopefully Bobo can square me away with the OEM exhaust. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

08-24-2012, 07:02 PM	#58 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Just spoke with Swift -- looks like they are on board with the way I am envisioning the intake design. Project is very much underway I've stressed the importance of testing and comparing the new intake to competitors to validate its merits, so this should lead to some rigorous R&D to get the best possible design for us Eastwest -- great job! Looking forward to more details as things come together __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

08-31-2012, 12:25 AM	#59 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 21	Interesting, subd Things I would be looking for: air flow gains heat soak sound throttle response ease of filter maintenance hydro lock cost Is it plug n play ? or tune required? Last edited by ZForce; 08-31-2012 at 12:33 AM.

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