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Masa 01-30-2012 08:16 AM

Oil Cooler Questions
 
So I am planning to get an oil cooler this spring.

Was wondering what sizes you guys are running and what you use to block it off in the cooler months.

I am thinking of getting a 19 row cooler:

Z1 Motorsports 370Z/G37 Oil Cooler Kit

Cristobal09 01-30-2012 08:23 AM

I think Jon has one that was half that price, if I remember correctly. May wanna hit him up.

m4a1mustang 01-30-2012 08:26 AM

That's not a bad price for a Setrab core, stainless lines, and a Mocal sandwhich plate. I would recommend getting the optional thermostatic plate, though.

To block the cooler off you can use anything in your imagination to block airflow. :icon17:

Masa 01-30-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1516135)
That's not a bad price for a Setrab core, stainless lines, and a Mocal sandwhich plate. I would recommend getting the optional thermostatic plate, though.

To block the cooler off you can use anything in your imagination to block airflow. :icon17:

Yea I am set on getting the thermostatic plate for the 19r.
It seems like I will just zip tie on a metal plate when its cold out. :tup:

m4a1mustang 01-30-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Masa (Post 1516228)
Yea I am set on getting the thermostatic plate for the 19r.
It seems like I will just zip tie on a metal plate when its cold out. :tup:

That'll do!

Masa 01-30-2012 09:44 AM

Guess I will hit up Kirk's Garage and set up an appointment to put on the oil cooler when I am due for my next oil change.

Any idea how many additional quarts I will need with the cooler?

m4a1mustang 01-30-2012 09:45 AM

I'd figure at least 1-1.5 quarts.

m4a1mustang 01-30-2012 09:46 AM

One thing to consider would be adding an oil pressure gauge. If one of the lines comes off the fitting you don't have much time at all before you're running dry and kill the engine.

Kirkster 01-30-2012 09:56 PM

Don't bother with the 19 row. Go strait to the 25 row. You really can't over cool this car very easily in the summertime. A thermostatic plate will take care of the winter time...

eastwest2300 01-30-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa (Post 1516245)
Guess I will hit up Kirk's Garage and set up an appointment to put on the oil cooler when I am due for my next oil change.

Any idea how many additional quarts I will need with the cooler?

Ron, what are you trying to do, send that Z to the moon?:icon17:

ResIpsa 01-31-2012 07:31 AM

Actually, the thermostatic plate will not allow your oil temps to get over 160 degrees in the winter. I have a 25 row cooler with a Mocal Thermostatic Plate and I absolutely need to run a block off plate. I fabricated a plate out of fiberglass cloth, spray adhesive, and rubber spray. Not pretty, but effective.

http://www.the370z.com/members/resip...-block-off.jpg

And those brackets are used to support my splitter which is off the car for some winter refurbishing.

Masa 01-31-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1517662)
Don't bother with the 19 row. Go strait to the 25 row. You really can't over cool this car very easily in the summertime. A thermostatic plate will take care of the winter time...

You don't think 19 row will be enough? I don't plan to track the car much, it will mainly be to keep the temps lower on my daily commute in the summer. I saw 250 degrees this past summer during some spirited driving and want to prevent that this year.

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1517713)
Ron, what are you trying to do, send that Z to the moon?:icon17:

Just trying to keep the temps down when it starts getting warmer. :tup:

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 1517985)
Actually, the thermostatic plate will not allow your oil temps to get over 160 degrees in the winter. I have a 25 row cooler with a Mocal Thermostatic Plate and I absolutely need to run a block off plate. I fabricated a plate out of fiberglass cloth, spray adhesive, and rubber spray. Not pretty, but effective.

Yea I figured as much, I will probably just get a piece of sheet metal and zip tie it in front of the cooler in the winter. :tiphat:

eastwest2300 02-01-2012 07:26 PM

Dude, it sounds like its a lot of trouble.. i dont know..

Masa 02-01-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1521200)
Dude, it sounds like its a lot of trouble.. i dont know..

Well, the last thing you want to do when you're having fun is go into limp mode.


















That's what she said. :p ;)

eastwest2300 02-01-2012 07:54 PM

Limp mode??:bowrofl::bowrofl:

but dont you think nissan would have included an oil cooler if the Z wasnt made for hot temperatures.. thats what makes me question the need for one the most.

Masa 02-01-2012 08:01 PM

That's why the 2012 models come with a baby oil cooler.

Personally, I have seen temps as high as 255 degrees this past summer when I ran the car hard. Limp mode starts at around 280 degrees I believe.

Any prolonged spirited driving (like our mid-A cruises) can get our temps up really quick. I know Shahid was telling me he almost hit limp mode on one of the cruises.

For the most part though, you are right. For daily driving around town and a few quick acceleration bursts won't warrant an oil cooler. I plan to autocross and do some HPDE's this year so I want to invest in a small oil cooler so I can have some fun on the track.

eastwest2300 02-01-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa (Post 1521325)
That's why the 2012 models come with a baby oil cooler.

Personally, I have seen temps as high as 255 degrees this past summer when I ran the car hard. Limp mode starts at around 280 degrees I believe.

Any prolonged spirited driving (like our mid-A cruises) can get our temps up really quick. I know Shahid was telling me he almost hit limp mode on one of the cruises.

For the most part though, you are right. For daily driving around town and a few quick acceleration bursts won't warrant an oil cooler. I plan to autocross and do some HPDE's this year so I want to invest in a small oil cooler so I can have some fun on the track.

Yeah, I heard that. I just wish there was something easier, i guess.

ZCarMan 02-02-2012 05:30 PM

The price for the Z1 oil cooler is actually pretty good. I have a 19 row oil cooler and it works great. I never worry about oil temps anymore. I have had not any problems since it was installed. I have the thermostatic plate and yes you'll want to have something to block at least half of it. As Steve mentioned earlier, you can use just about anything, cardboard works or you can fashion something more permanent as I've seen some pretty nifty ones made with a bit of sheet metal and velcro of all things.

eastwest2300 02-02-2012 08:35 PM

Man, I wanna see this whole setup.

b1adesofcha0s 02-03-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa (Post 1521325)
That's why the 2012 models come with a baby oil cooler.

Personally, I have seen temps as high as 255 degrees this past summer when I ran the car hard. Limp mode starts at around 280 degrees I believe.

Any prolonged spirited driving (like our mid-A cruises) can get our temps up really quick. I know Shahid was telling me he almost hit limp mode on one of the cruises.

For the most part though, you are right. For daily driving around town and a few quick acceleration bursts won't warrant an oil cooler. I plan to autocross and do some HPDE's this year so I want to invest in a small oil cooler so I can have some fun on the track.

That was only on one of the cruises though, the rest I was fine. A couple minutes in a higher gear took care of that problem though.

eastwest2300 02-03-2012 04:53 PM

Dude, you guys know your Z's, I never even heard of "limp mode"

Masa 02-03-2012 05:10 PM

So I just got my taxes back and it just so happens I have enough for a BBK and oil cooler... decisions, decisions... :(

eastwest2300 02-03-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa (Post 1525025)
So I just got my taxes back and it just so happens I have enough for a BBK and oil cooler... decisions, decisions... :(

Man, just go ahead and make that happen.

b1adesofcha0s 02-04-2012 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1524975)
Dude, you guys know your Z's, I never even heard of "limp mode"

You don't drive it enough or hard enough for it to even come close to being an issue :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masa (Post 1525025)
So I just got my taxes back and it just so happens I have enough for a BBK and oil cooler... decisions, decisions... :(

My recommendations exactly.......Or you could go with my first recommendation :bowrofl:
When Ron asked me what he should spend his tax refund money on, I suggested a birthday present for me :P

Kirkster 02-04-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1524975)
Dude, you guys know your Z's, I never even heard of "limp mode"

"limp mode" It's what happens when you own two striker fired plastic guns at the same time...

eastwest2300 02-05-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1525575)
You don't drive it enough or hard enough for it to even come close to being an issue :rolleyes:

You're right about that...:icon17:

But I have been driving i much more often, I love hearing the exhaust.

eastwest2300 02-05-2012 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1526042)
"limp mode" It's what happens when you own two striker fired plastic guns at the same time...

:bowrofl:

Boy, you guys really have something against the Glock line..:tup:


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