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Originally Posted by italy3541 again im not trying to argue with you, i dont have vast tire knowlege. i just offered a different opnion.. with a quick google search i

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Old 01-16-2013, 08:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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again im not trying to argue with you, i dont have vast tire knowlege. i just offered a different opnion.. with a quick google search i pulled up a comparison, and from what i saw on the graphs the tires were very close so close that on our cars and what we use them for you would never be able to tell the difference.. now maybe if u r useing them on track all day every day and looking for every bit of performance u can get.. then maybe you could tell the difference.. but saying that they are vastly better, and pirelli is not good is just a untrue statement..

forgive me for giving a difference in opnion, wouldnt want anyone on here to run something different than everyone else.. maybe im just different but i like to use what i like and not what people tell me i should use...

and again i didnt say pss were junk.. i said they r good, i just offered my opnion on a tire that i like and have great luck with.. i never said anythign bad about the pss.. and maybe in ur opnion pirelli is bad or not worth it.. and thats fine.. but that is your opnion.. i on the other hand love pirelli and whenever i need new tires that is the brand i go with..
I never said they are not good. I said the Pilot Super Sport is vastly better than the PZero. Keep in mind the PSS is a brand new compound while the PZero is an aging tire that's soon to be replaced.

My experience (I have lots of experience) and available empirical data supports my claim that PSS > PZero. If anything because you can expect nearly double the longevity while maintaining better dry/wet performance.

Is Pirelli bad? Is the PZero bad? No. I never said that. I just said that they aren't the best (right now). The PZero was a great tire when I used it. It's just that the Super Sport is just that much better.
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I never said they are not good. I said the Pilot Super Sport is vastly better than the PZero. Keep in mind the PSS is a brand new compound while the PZero is an aging tire that's soon to be replaced.

My experience (I have lots of experience) and available empirical data supports my claim that PSS > PZero. If anything because you can expect nearly double the longevity while maintaining better dry/wet performance.

Is Pirelli bad? Is the PZero bad? No. I never said that. I just said that they aren't the best (right now). The PZero was a great tire when I used it. It's just that the Super Sport is just that much better.
i agree with what you said.. especially that its a older tire.. and the reason for that is they didnt have a need to update it until now.. i dont agree with the vastly better.. the difference is marginal. and the average z driver would be hard pressed to tell the difference...

also i never said that the pirelli was better, i just said they are what i like and what i use on my car.. im on car #33 so i have tried and had experiance with many many different brands of tires.. i couldnt tell u the different compounds or the specific makeup of the tire. but i can tell you what ones handel well in the rain/snow/dry etc.. and what one wore fast..

tread wear is the worst part of a pirelli.. i have owned many sets of pzero, and they are expensive.. the main reason for their fast treadwear is the super sof make of the tire.. its a compromise with the makeup that they used in that tire.. they gave up tread life for grip/handeling..
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