NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee Saturday's at 10AM in Fairfax, VA & Columbia, MD

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Time to go pad shopping

Do you prefer them with or without wings for extra absorbancy?

I stick to tampons so I can keep wearing my thongs.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:07 AM

BTW, shado, in 2010 I managed with HPS pads on my Z, but wasn't going as fast. So they might be fine for you... might not. If anything get something better on there for the feel alone.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

BTW, shado, in 2010 I managed with HPS pads on my Z, but wasn't going as fast. So they might be fine for you... might not. If anything get something better on there for the feel alone.

I mean, I can keep the HPS for street use, but I do plan to track, and who knows about Zdayz yet? I may go conservative, I may blast the twisties. The fun is not having to decide until I'm down there, ya kno?

I'm willing to throw noisy man brakes on the car for better performance down where it matters.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I mean, I can keep the HPS for street use, but I do plan to track, and who knows about Zdayz yet? I may go conservative, I may blast the twisties. The fun is not having to decide until I'm down there, ya kno?

I'm willing to throw noisy man brakes on the car for better performance down where it matters.

I'd reckon ZDayZ would be no problem for the HPS. Track, yes, you def need an upgrade.

I just know for me considering I set some Ferodos on fire last year, I need more than HPS.

sixpax · 04-13-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Running an oil cooler? You'll definitely need one.

...don't have one yet. I figure for a Hyperdrive I am alright without one ... will add on oil cooler for next time HPDE-1 full weekend deal.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sixpax

...don't have one yet. I figure for a Hyperdrive I am alright without one ... will add on oil cooler for next time HPDE-1 full weekend deal.

Depending on ambient temp you can overheat the car in a couple laps.

Only one way to find out.

sixpax · 04-13-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Depending on ambient temp you can overheat the car in a couple laps.

Only one way to find out.

True dat. I can assure you if it does overheat, it will not be due to my skillful and hard driving ... it would just simply be additional proof at how lame the oil cooling issue is in stock form.

Even if I had the oil cooler in hand, no way I would get it done before the Hyperdrive. I am finding that while it is great I am saving alot of labor costs by doing stuff myself, it is very slow going getting stuff done. Free time to **** around with the car comes in way smaller chunks than I would like, plus I am no mechanic so I am extra anal slow about what I do get done.

eastwest2300 · 04-13-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Depending on ambient temp you can overheat the car in a couple laps.

Only one way to find out.

I want an oil cooler, but not for track use, I see myself going back to FL eventually, I'd need it for the hot & humid temperatures.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Uh, no... It's not the 'pretty mods' I'm worried about. It's the whole damn car. If I damage something to where its unable/unsafe to drive, then I'm out a car. And I don't have a 2nd to get me to work/places I need to be to continue earning income to fix said car, mods be damned.

You told me you didnt want to get on the track because you didnt want to blow your motor from lack of a tune, due to putting on the LTH's and intakes, and that you might blow your motor. Now you're just afraid of your car as a whole?

So dont drive at the limit, problem solved. Nobody is going to push you past there, including your instructor. Drive like a granny for all he cares, all they want you to do is leave the track with knowledge gained.

XwChriswX · 04-13-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

You told me you didnt want to get on the track because you didnt want to blow your motor from lack of a tune, due to putting on the LTH's and intakes, and that you might blow your motor. Now you're just afraid of your car as a whole?

So dont drive at the limit, problem solved. Nobody is going to push you past there, including your instructor. Drive like a granny for all he cares, all they want you to do is leave the track with knowledge gained.

I'm fine with that, but the purpose of going to a track is to find out where that limit is, and push it. Or else why spend the money?

When is the next time you're going, I'd like to tag-a-long and see what it's like from someone (you) who's done it before, and get some off track knowledge before doing it myself.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I mean, I can keep the HPS for street use, but I do plan to track, and who knows about Zdayz yet? I may go conservative, I may blast the twisties. The fun is not having to decide until I'm down there, ya kno?

I'm willing to throw noisy man brakes on the car for better performance down where it matters.

I'd go with the proper pads right off the bat, merely because if you go out w/ HPS pads for your first time, and then go out w/ something like Carbotech's your second time, your brake feel will be different. I'd try to remain consistant.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax

...don't have one yet. I figure for a Hyperdrive I am alright without one ... will add on oil cooler for next time HPDE-1 full weekend deal.

Hyperdrive IS an HPDE for all intents and purposes. You'll want an oil cooler before you do either.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax

True dat. I can assure you if it does overheat, it will not be due to my skillful and hard driving ... it would just simply be additional proof at how lame the oil cooling issue is in stock form.

Even if I had the oil cooler in hand, no way I would get it done before the Hyperdrive. I am finding that while it is great I am saving alot of labor costs by doing stuff myself, it is very slow going getting stuff done. Free time to **** around with the car comes in way smaller chunks than I would like, plus I am no mechanic so I am extra anal slow about what I do get done.

Alright, so if you absolutely cannot get an oil cooler before your hyperdrive, then I recommend staying in higher gears as much as possible. Focus on entering and exiting corners, than blasting out in a low gear. The higher you rev it, the faster it'll heat up (obviously). Most people can stay in 3rd for an entire track...in your case, stick to 4th and 5th.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

I want an oil cooler, but not for track use, I see myself going back to FL eventually, I'd need it for the hot & humid temperatures.

Dont go overboard, then - stick with the smallest cooler you can find (like Stillen's 19-row). It'll do the job.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I'm fine with that, but the purpose of going to a track is to find out where that limit is, and push it. Or else why spend the money?

When is the next time you're going, I'd like to tag-a-long and see what it's like from someone (you) who's done it before, and get some off track knowledge before doing it myself.

You say it as if its the ONLY purpose. Finding the limit and passing it is a scary event - that means you're likely going on an off-track excursion, or in the least, overshooting a proper corner.

You're going to the track to learn a lot things, including:

Proper car control (hand placement, instinctual countersteering, anticipating weight shift under braking/acceleration, etc)
Brake/throttle modulation in concert with steering
Situational awareness (flag stands, cars around you, etc)
Beginner racecraft (apexing, entering/exiting a corners of different types, etc)

...and so on, so forth. Finding "the limit" is something that happens while doing any of the above. All of those take PATIENCE and practice. If you think you are the next Ayrton Senna and try to act like that, it WILL bite you. Ask my last instructor at Summit Point - the last (and only other) 370Z he was with at that track, was a NISMO. The guy totalled it his VERY FIRST SESSION.

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