NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee Saturday's at 10AM in Fairfax, VA & Columbia, MD

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I don't have handicaps, just no $$ to pay for it.

Because you're throwing money at mods you dont need to go on the track, and saying you cant track BECAUSE OF THE MODS YOU THREW ON THE CAR! lol

You're like the Skyrim dude. "I used to be a racer but I took an arrow to the knee, because I upgraded the **** out of my bow and arrow so much that when I went to shoot it, I shot myself in the damn knee"

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Yeah I'd go out there. There's no way Shahid would put those brakes at their limit his first weekend out, nor would I or anyone else likely.

Maybe. I still wouldn't do it because then I'd be thinking about the brakes. Keep in mind we were overheating these things on The Dragon last year, and that's only 11 miles on the street.

XwChriswX · 04-13-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Because you're throwing money at mods you dont need to go on the track, and saying you cant track BECAUSE OF THE MODS YOU THREW ON THE CAR! lol

Forgive me for wanting nice things.

But $$ has been the primary limiter the whole time, what if something were to go wrong. Can't afford to fix it, or have a DD. This is why I haven't gone before.

Not because of modding.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Maybe. I still wouldn't do it because then I'd be thinking about the brakes. Keep in mind we were overheating these things on The Dragon last year, and that's only 11 miles on the street.

But what pads/fluid was that with? It's been well proven that with good pads and fluid, no overheating issues occurr until pushed to the ABSOLUTE extreme.

Just because they are smaller wont necessarily mean that impending doom is guaranteed. It just wouldnt be quite as good as the Akebono kit, likely. He'd be fine.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

And he'll be fine on the track with his base brake calipers. ... He needs good pads, some fluid, and some decent rubber. Hell his brakes are more brakes than a lot of other cars already have on the track and they do fine...

This is what Bryan Settle told me at the ZCAR show in Mechanicsville, and he's a track fanatic. I already had my raffle brakes on their way, but I can see the logic.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

But what pads/fluid was that with? It's been well proven that with good pads and fluid, no overheating issues occurr until pushed to the ABSOLUTE extreme.

Just because they are smaller wont necessarily mean that impending doom is guaranteed. It just wouldnt be quite as good as the Akebono kit, likely. He'd be fine.

Very true about the pads and fluid. You'll definitely want more than the Hawk HPS b1ades was asking about, though. Those pads are horrible for track use.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Forgive me for wanting nice things.

But $$ has been the primary limiter the whole time, what if something were to go wrong. Can't afford to fix it, or have a DD. This is why I haven't gone before.

Not because of modding.

You're the classic case of an over-modder, nothing personal. You've thrown tons of money at performance parts and now you're afraid to break it because you're broke. So now you cant do what you want to do because of your own mods that you've done. Without the THOUSANDS in mods you've spent, you could have been on the track multiple times. You just wouldnt look as cool w/o the sweet Volks :-p

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Very true about the pads and fluid. You'll definitely want more than the Hawk HPS b1ades was asking about, though. Those pads are horrible for track use.

Already PM-ed him about that - I recommended Carbotech pads. HPS pads are poopy on the track.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 10:59 AM

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Maybe. I still wouldn't do it because then I'd be thinking about the brakes. Keep in mind we were overheating these things on The Dragon last year, and that's only 11 miles on the street.

I don't know about Dan's experience, but that wasn't the case for me. The only time I cooked the base brakes was on the 11 hour drive down. 11 hours of highway driving, and then playing with the car on 28 meant brake fade for the base models, no probs for the sports owners.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Already PM-ed him about that - I recommended Carbotech pads. HPS pads are poopy on the track.

Yeh I PM'd him about it too. I was more cautious about the brakes than you are, though. But the more we talk about it the more I'm OK with it.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Already PM-ed him about that - I recommended Carbotech pads. HPS pads are poopy on the track.

I've got to order new pads, then. I'm running Hawk HPS.

XwChriswX · 04-13-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

You're the classic case of an over-modder, nothing personal. You've thrown tons of money at performance parts and now you're afraid to break it because you're broke. So now you cant do what you want to do because of your own mods that you've done. Without the THOUSANDS in mods you've spent, you could have been on the track multiple times. You just wouldnt look as cool w/o the sweet Volks :-p

Uh, no... It's not the 'pretty mods' I'm worried about. It's the whole damn car. If I damage something to where its unable/unsafe to drive, then I'm out a car. And I don't have a 2nd to get me to work/places I need to be to continue earning income to fix said car, mods be damned.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I don't know about Dan's experience, but that wasn't the case for me. The only time I cooked the base brakes was on the 11 hour drive down. 11 hours of highway driving, and then playing with the car on 28 meant brake fade for the base models, no probs for the sports owners.

Dan overheated everything.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I've got to order new pads, then. I'm running Hawk HPS.

Yep, you want some Carbotechs or similarly rated pads for track use. I use HPS on the street but am swapping in Ferodo DS2500 just so I don't kill myself at ZDayZ because I KNOW I'd destroy the HPS pads.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yep, you want some Carbotechs or similarly rated pads for track use. I use HPS on the street but am swapping in Ferodo DS2500 just so I don't kill myself at ZDayZ because I KNOW I'd destroy the HPS pads.

Time to go pad shopping

Do you prefer them with or without wings for extra absorbancy?

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