NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee Saturday's at 10AM in Fairfax, VA & Columbia, MD

XwChriswX · 04-13-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

And he'll be fine on the track with his base brake calipers. Jesus, you guys are fear mongerers lol. He needs good pads, some fluid, and some decent rubber. Hell his brakes are more brakes than a lot of other cars already have on the track and they do fine...

He gets so angry when you talk about track stuffs.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

And he'll be fine on the track with his base brake calipers. ... He needs good pads, some fluid, and some decent rubber. Hell his brakes are more brakes than a lot of other cars already have on the track and they do fine...

This is what Bryan Settle told me at the ZCAR show in Mechanicsville, and he's a track fanatic. I already had my raffle brakes on their way, but I can see the logic.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 10:07 AM

BTW, shado, in 2010 I managed with HPS pads on my Z, but wasn't going as fast. So they might be fine for you... might not. If anything get something better on there for the feel alone.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

BTW, shado, in 2010 I managed with HPS pads on my Z, but wasn't going as fast. So they might be fine for you... might not. If anything get something better on there for the feel alone.

I mean, I can keep the HPS for street use, but I do plan to track, and who knows about Zdayz yet? I may go conservative, I may blast the twisties. The fun is not having to decide until I'm down there, ya kno?

I'm willing to throw noisy man brakes on the car for better performance down where it matters.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I mean, I can keep the HPS for street use, but I do plan to track, and who knows about Zdayz yet? I may go conservative, I may blast the twisties. The fun is not having to decide until I'm down there, ya kno?

I'm willing to throw noisy man brakes on the car for better performance down where it matters.

I'd reckon ZDayZ would be no problem for the HPS. Track, yes, you def need an upgrade.

I just know for me considering I set some Ferodos on fire last year, I need more than HPS.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I mean, I can keep the HPS for street use, but I do plan to track, and who knows about Zdayz yet? I may go conservative, I may blast the twisties. The fun is not having to decide until I'm down there, ya kno?

I'm willing to throw noisy man brakes on the car for better performance down where it matters.

I'd go with the proper pads right off the bat, merely because if you go out w/ HPS pads for your first time, and then go out w/ something like Carbotech's your second time, your brake feel will be different. I'd try to remain consistant.

b1adesofcha0s · 04-13-2012, 12:43 PM

Ok so now I'm a little confused. If I get good pads like Carbotechs and swap out the brake fluid, will my base brakes be safe enough for me to track? I'm talking about for now and for the future. If they will be then that's fine and I will save money by not having to get a bbk. If I will need the bbk eventually, then I'll just wait to get that and leave my base brakes alone until I do.

My goal really isn't to push the limits of my car. I want to have fun and improve my driving skills, especially with the high performance driving on a track. Once I feel more comfortable driving on the track then I will try to push the limits of the car. Also, this should get me much more prepared for my next car, which will probably be a step up in performance.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Ok so now I'm a little confused. If I get good pads like Carbotechs and swap out the brake fluid, will my base brakes be safe enough for me to track? I'm talking about for now and for the future. If they will be then that's fine and I will save money by not having to get a bbk. If I will need the bbk eventually, then I'll just wait to get that and leave my base brakes alone until I do.

My goal really isn't to push the limits of my car. I want to have fun and improve my driving skills, especially with the high performance driving on a track. Once I feel more comfortable driving on the track then I will try to push the limits of the car. Also, this should get me much more prepared for my next car, which will probably be a step up in performance.

Yes, you will be fine. Base brakes + Carbotech Pads + Track Fluid, and you wont die in a fireball. It will probably last you until you decide to send the car off to pasture, and save you a lot of money in the process.

Is it as good as Sport brakes + Carbotech Pads + Fluid? Probably not, but your car will STILL STOP, and you STILL WONT DIE lol. You will still learn everything you want to learn.

b1adesofcha0s · 04-13-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Yes, you will be fine. Base brakes + Carbotech Pads + Track Fluid, and you wont die in a fireball. It will probably last you until you decide to send the car off to pasture, and save you a lot of money in the process.

Is it as good as Sport brakes + Carbotech Pads + Fluid? Probably not, but your car will STILL STOP, and you STILL WONT DIE lol. You will still learn everything you want to learn.

Well that sounds good to me then, I guess that's the plan. I may be able to get out there this summer then. Only issue would be where to keep my all season tires. Don't want to throw them away since they have a ton of tread left and I could use them for the winters.

MightyBobo · 04-13-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Well that sounds good to me then, I guess that's the plan. I may be able to get out there this summer then. Only issue would be where to keep my all season tires. Don't want to throw them away since they have a ton of tread left and I could use them for the winters.

Yeah, when running summer/winter tires, its easier to have 2 sets of wheels, for sure. See if you can find another set of base wheels that are jacked up? Spray paint them pink, throw summer tires on, call it good.

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 12:49 PM

Well dying or not dying is still up to the driver.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 01:20 PM

I had wondered where Bobo went for the last hour or so... Now I know

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 01:21 PM

Basically what you're saying is you want to be like every weekend warrior out there. Which means you start with HPDE and progress. Then maybe when you have enough money to support it you buy a 944 or a spec miata or something to race wheel to wheel.

shadoquad · 04-13-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Basically what you're saying is you want to be like every weekend warrior out there. Which means you start with HPDE and progress. Then maybe when you have enough money to support it you buy a 944 or a spec miata or something to race wheel to wheel.

What's wrong with weekend warrior?

m4a1mustang · 04-13-2012, 01:26 PM

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What's wrong with weekend warrior?

Did I say anything was wrong with it? No. I didn't. I just meant what he wants to do is like every guy out there and he needs to just go out and do it and work towards his goal.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	BTW, shado, in 2010 I managed with HPS pads on my Z, but wasn't going as fast. So they might be fine for you... might not. If anything get something better on there for the feel alone. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	Ok so now I'm a little confused. If I get good pads like Carbotechs and swap out the brake fluid, will my base brakes be safe enough for me to track? I'm talking about for now and for the future. If they will be then that's fine and I will save money by not having to get a bbk. If I will need the bbk eventually, then I'll just wait to get that and leave my base brakes alone until I do. My goal really isn't to push the limits of my car. I want to have fun and improve my driving skills, especially with the high performance driving on a track. Once I feel more comfortable driving on the track then I will try to push the limits of the car. Also, this should get me much more prepared for my next car, which will probably be a step up in performance. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Well dying or not dying is still up to the driver. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Basically what you're saying is you want to be like every weekend warrior out there. Which means you start with HPDE and progress. Then maybe when you have enough money to support it you buy a 944 or a spec miata or something to race wheel to wheel. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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