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Nesbit 01-09-2012 09:38 PM

Newby looking for power mods for '10 370Z
 
I am new to 370s (all Nissans for that matter) but not new to tuning / mod.ing engines on my own.

I am looking optimally for not-terribly-invasive engine mod.s. I.e. air intakes & software. Would like to keep all relatively reversable for warranty reasons.

What's best / hot out there for '10 370?

I know this is an oversimplified and basic question so thanks for help. If someone asked me this about a Porsche or Mercedes I'd be thinking "boy what a newbie, where should I begin?".... so again thanks and if need any clarifying questions asked or narrowing down please let me know.

eastwest2300 01-09-2012 09:41 PM

I'd go to a car meet up, we have them often, in Fairfax and in Columbia MD, you could see what a lot of the guys around here have done. Its a pretty cool experience.

Kirkster 01-10-2012 09:03 AM

Stillen Intakes.
High Flow Cats.
Cat Back exhaust.
UpRev retune...

Or save up a bit and put in a supercharger. But then again I did not care about the power train portion of my warranty...

b1adesofcha0s 01-10-2012 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1483682)
Stillen Intakes.
High Flow Cats.
Cat Back exhaust.
UpRev retune...

Or save up a bit and put in a supercharger. But then again I did not care about the power train portion of my warranty...

This. :tup:

Nesbit 01-10-2012 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1483682)
Stillen Intakes.
High Flow Cats.
Cat Back exhaust.
UpRev retune...

Or save up a bit and put in a supercharger. But then again I did not care about the power train portion of my warranty...

Thanks much. Will investigate those. I'm looking to do something soon.... like now.

I have a freind who has a 300zx turbo that he bought with some Stillen upgrades on it, actually I think the Stillen shop itself did turbo upgrades on it. It is pretty fast car.... not really controllable.... but fast if you can keep it going straight! LOL

Any particular exhaust / cats that you recommend? I'm guessing cats will likely be more than I'm looking to spend on this car rt. now.

I presume this UpRev (which I haven't looked at - at all yet) will take into acct. any intake and exhaust mod.s?

Not really trying to throw a blower on it at this point but I'm sure that adds for some excitement. When ur doing things like supercharges on these cars how robust are the heads/headgaskets and transmissions?

Thanks again.

TerribleONE 01-10-2012 10:23 AM

Check out fast intentions!!! They have an outstanding reputation and Tony's customer service is top knotch..

Kirkster 01-10-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nesbit (Post 1483799)
Thanks much. Will investigate those. I'm looking to do something soon.... like now.

I have a freind who has a 300zx turbo that he bought with some Stillen upgrades on it, actually I think the Stillen shop itself did turbo upgrades on it. It is pretty fast car.... not really controllable.... but fast if you can keep it going straight! LOL

Any particular exhaust / cats that you recommend? I'm guessing cats will likely be more than I'm looking to spend on this car rt. now.

I presume this UpRev (which I haven't looked at - at all yet) will take into acct. any intake and exhaust mod.s?

Not really trying to throw a blower on it at this point but I'm sure that adds for some excitement. When ur doing things like supercharges on these cars how robust are the heads/headgaskets and transmissions?

Thanks again.


Exhaust is highly preferential. I found the F.I. exhausts to have drone and that is a deal killer for me. I am a fan of the Ark exhaust (even though I am running a take off Nismo) no drone and deep. EastWest has one I think if you want to hear it locally.

UpRev is the company that makes the tuning software. You get a copy when you go get a dyno tune from the local tuners around here.

Supercharger, Motor and drive train seem to mix very well, Many users on the forum with the GTM and nothing blown so far as I have heard. Clutch is good to about 500whp. Transmissions seem to be holding up well unless it is an auto and then there are fixes for the auto out there.

eastwest2300 01-10-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1483898)
Exhaust is highly preferential. I found the F.I. exhausts to have drone and that is a deal killer for me. I am a fan of the Ark exhaust (even though I am running a take off Nismo) no drone and deep. EastWest has one I think if you want to hear it locally.

That I do... and I loove it! Ark Exhausts RULE!! Its badass! Thanks Kirk for installing it for me..:tup::tup:

XwChriswX 01-10-2012 05:33 PM

PM Jeffblue

eastwest2300 01-10-2012 05:37 PM

I'd take the advice of the Z God (Kirkster)

FL 4Motion 01-10-2012 06:33 PM

Intakes: Stillen CAI or k&n drop in filters and post maf tubes

Exhaust: Fast Intentions

Headers: Fast Intentions or PPE (only long tube headers are worth it, stay away from shorties, the stock tubular exhaust manifolds are actually pretty good)

Tune: Uprev (only choice really since COBB dropped the Z platform like a bad habit, but Uprev is really good)

I'm personally not comfortable with underdrive/lightweight pullies but some folks run them here, good for freeing up 2-5whp.

Lightweight flywheel will also do /\

x1000 about going to a local meet and seeing folks cars in person and what they've done, will give you a much better idea of where you want to go.

Cristobal09 01-10-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1484488)
Intakes: Stillen CAI or k&n drop in filters and post maf tubes

the stillen cai is overpriced for what you get IMO, unless you get up to 6800 rpm's constantly and want good sound. Personally, I would just get the K&N drop in filters with mishimoto post maf hoses and save 300 bucks. I have the mishimoto post maf tubes with K&N's and noticed a DECENT amount of midrange, but thats most likely butt dyno. look for jomer on the forums for best price. Look for FBnissan on the forums here to get his contact info.

FL 4Motion 01-10-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1484798)
the stillen cai is overpriced for what you get IMO, unless you get up to 6800 rpm's constantly and want good sound. Personally, I would just get the K&N drop in filters with mishimoto post maf hoses and save 300 bucks. I have the mishimoto post maf tubes with K&N's and noticed a DECENT amount of midrange, but thats most likely butt dyno. look for jomer on the forums for best price. Look for FBnissan on the forums here to get his contact info.

see my sig, I am of the same mind as you. BUT, some folks really love putting aftermarket CAI on their cars.

Cristobal09 01-10-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1484866)
see my sig, I am of the same mind as you. BUT, some folks really love putting aftermarket CAI on their cars.

I agree, I just cannot understand why.....UNLESS they are doing it for the sound and if they rev up that high all the time.

But use the 300 bucks you saved by getting the hoses and K&N filters and apply it towards stillen sways or swift springs.

FL 4Motion 01-10-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1484872)
I agree, I just cannot understand why.....UNLESS they are doing it for the sound and if they rev up that high all the time.

But use the 300 bucks you saved by getting the hoses and K&N filters and apply it towards stillen sways or swift springs.

To be fair(ish), the stillen CAI will yield a few more whp peak, so if someone is looking to have the absoulute highest dyno #'s they possibly can, while not really worrying about little to no midrange gains, then the Stillen CAI is what the doctor ordered.

eastwest2300 01-11-2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1484872)
I agree, I just cannot understand why.....UNLESS they are doing it for the sound and if they rev up that high all the time.

But use the 300 bucks you saved by getting the hoses and K&N filters and apply it towards stillen sways or swift springs.

Chris, I need to give you a call so you can steer me right, I know I wouldnt drive my Z that hard, to where Im shifting at 6800 rpms.. so you're route sounds feasible.

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1484880)
To be fair(ish), the stillen CAI will yield a few more whp peak, so if someone is looking to have the absoulute highest dyno #'s they possibly can, while not really worrying about little to no midrange gains, then the Stillen CAI is what the doctor ordered.

And if you get a used set like I did, you don't have to spend all that much on it. :tup:

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1484993)
Chris, I need to give you a call so you can steer me right, I know I wouldnt drive my Z that hard, to where Im shifting at 6800 rpms.. so you're route sounds feasible.

Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should...........

Kirkster 01-11-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1484993)
Chris, I need to give you a call so you can steer me right, I know I wouldnt drive my Z that hard, to where Im shifting at 6800 rpms.. so you're route sounds feasible.

:shakes head::shakes head::shakes head:

If you are not hitting the redline at least once or twice a month you must be a Metrosexual...

You need to start shopping here. Yes the link is work safe

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1485156)
:shakes head::shakes head::shakes head:

If you are not hitting the redline at least once or twice a month you must be a Metrosexual...

You need to start shopping here. Yes the link is work safe

:werd:

Cristobal09 01-11-2012 08:40 AM

Heres what I can comment on for what I have so far

Gemini catback exhaust - biggest power gainer by a good number, plus it adds a nice sound. Its the quietest exhaust from what ive heard, and when I go to the meets, it is my favorite sound.

Swift springs - This was a great suspension mod, handling improved a good deal but lowered the car where I scrape almost everywhere. Railroad tracks I have to go 5 mph over, but the lower plastic things take a brunt of the force.

Ichiba rear camber arms - Just get these with the springs, the rear camber will get knocked outta whhack, and unless you want some SERIOUS camber changes, go with the ichiba. It costs about 60 bucks cheaper and does the same thing, but can only adjust 2 degrees both ways, instead of SPC's 3 degrees. Ichiba is perfect.

Stillen front and rear sway bars - By far the most noticeable suspenison mod. It took my shop an hour to do (I dont do any work myself, I figure i went to school and got a good job to make enough money to have somebody do it for me ;) ) and I had them put it on the stiffest setting.....My car is like riding on rails now its soooooo great. If I could do it all over again, i would do stillen sways before the springs.

Mishimoto post maf hose/K&N filters - I was not expecting big gains from this. Mid range is a definitely a little peppier and the sound is a little better. When you rev it to about 5000 you hear the noise. But my exhaust overrides it a bit.

Now youll hear people using Berk/invidia/stillen test pipes/HFC's, but personally I wouldnt mess with the cats. Ive spoken to numerous people and they all claim it added very little power but mainly noise to the exhaust. And to me, IMO, isnt worth cost. Its REALLY noisy.

You already know my thoughts on stillen intakes.

Headers, again, I dont see many people using because its very low horsepower adder. Plus its a PITA to install and it quite pricey.

Supercharger - Now this would obviously be the best way for power. Kirkster is the only one I know of thhat has one of these. But hes also a master mechanic and if something breaks, he can fix it.

I bought all of my parts from Jomer. Hes on the forums here and will always get you the best prices. FBnissan is his name on the forums here so dont shop online before consulting forum vendors for prices.

Kirkster 01-11-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1485183)
:werd:

Heh. You must already be sporting a Murse...

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1485203)
Heh. You must already be sporting a Murse...

No I was agreeing with you on the redlining, it needs to be done :p

Cristobal09 01-11-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1484993)
Chris, I need to give you a call so you can steer me right, I know I wouldnt drive my Z that hard, to where Im shifting at 6800 rpms.. so you're route sounds feasible.

I just wore in past the 1200 mile mark. I cant keep it off of redline now....God I love this car. Maybe I shoulve bought the stillen in the first place :shakes head::shakes head::shakes head:

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1485214)
I just wore in past the 1200 mile mark. I cant keep it off of redline now....God I love this car. Maybe I shoulve bought the stillen in the first place :shakes head::shakes head::shakes head:

:iagree:

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 08:55 AM

Also the rear camber arms are not always necessary. I didn't need them when I dropped my Z on the swifts. My rear camber is at -2.3/-2.4.

Cristobal09 01-11-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1485228)
Also the rear camber arms are not always necessary. I didn't need them when I dropped my Z on the swifts. My rear camber is at -2.3/-2.4.

I was at -2.6 for the rears, after the ichibas I had them adjust it back to -1.8. I think the stock specs are between -2.1 and -1.2 or something? I would figure at what you are at, youll burn through tires much quicker. But what do I know, ive only had my car for 1300 miles.

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1485252)
I was at -2.6 for the rears, after the ichibas I had them adjust it back to -1.8. I think the stock specs are between -2.1 and -1.2 or something? I would figure at what you are at, youll burn through tires much quicker. But what do I know, ive only had my car for 1300 miles.

Mine is only a little bit off, nothing too bad.

Kirkster 01-11-2012 09:09 AM

The specs for the rear are -2.2 being the max and I am at -2.2 on the drivers side and -2.3 on the passengers side.

I have not noticed any tread life problems and have had a set of RE11s on there for the last 11K miles. Surprisingly have lots of tread life left which was a shocker as I have heard that these tires don't last long...

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1485268)
The specs for the rear are -2.2 being the max and I am at -2.2 on the drivers side and -2.3 on the passengers side.

I have not noticed any tread life problems and have had a set of RE11s on there for the last 11K miles. Surprisingly have lots of tread life left which was a shocker as I have heard that these tires don't last long...

Especially with everything they've been through after the SC install :icon17:

eastwest2300 01-11-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1485125)


Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should...........

hahaha...:bowrofl::bowrofl:

eastwest2300 01-11-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1485156)
:shakes head::shakes head::shakes head:

If you are not hitting the redline at least once or twice a month you must be a Metrosexual...

You need to start shopping here. Yes the link is work safe

hahaha... holy sh*t, kirk you are insane me.. geeez!:bowrofl::bowrofl:

Nesbit 01-19-2012 03:01 PM

Thanks guys. Very helpful. :happydance:

eastwest2300 01-21-2012 07:46 PM

No problem brother, we run these streets around here, we're here to help.

Kirkster 01-23-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nesbit (Post 1498831)
Thanks guys. Very helpful. :happydance:

Glad to help... Just don't show up to the Mid-A meets with a murse.

GM_Traitor3.5 01-23-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1505405)
Glad to help... Just don't show up to the Mid-A meets with a murse.

or a 4-door mommy car :ugh2:



Ah crap... wait that's me :rofl2:

b1adesofcha0s 01-23-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1505405)
Glad to help... Just don't show up to the Mid-A meets with a murse.

Oh look it's Al :stirthepot:

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...ea189f9ee7.jpg

GM_Traitor3.5 01-23-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1505738)

:icon18::bowrofl:

eastwest2300 01-23-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 1505736)
or a 4-door mommy car :ugh2:



Ah crap... wait that's me :rofl2:

:icon17:


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