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Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights

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Old 07-03-2010, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z.......


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Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z.......


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THE QUESTION -- is it too many lights OR too many light GROUPS........and WHAT IS THE NUMBER?
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§ 46.2-1030. When lights to be lighted; number of lights to be lighted at any time; use of warning lights.

B. Not more than four lights used to provide general illumination ahead of the vehicle, including at least two headlights and any other combination of fog lights or other auxiliary lights approved by the Superintendent, shall be lighted at any time. However, this limitation shall not preclude the display of warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027, or other lights as may be authorized by the Superintendent.

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Reading through 46.2-1020 to 46.2-1027 there is no mention of LEDs as approved lighting, so it really comes down to what the definition of "general illumination ahead of the vehicle" is, I think. Unless I'm missing something, even the Audi LEDs could be questioned.

My guess is the officer didn't write you up for the front lights because she didn't really think there was anything illegal about them... she might have thought that at first but after a little more thought it becomes apparent that it's terribly unclear.
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Reading through 46.2-1020 to 46.2-1027 there is no mention of LEDs as approved lighting, so it really comes down to what the definition of "general illumination ahead of the vehicle" is, I think. Unless I'm missing something, even the Audi LEDs could be questioned.

My guess is the officer didn't write you up for the front lights because she didn't really think there was anything illegal about them... she might have thought that at first but after a little more thought it becomes apparent that it's terribly unclear.
Soooo, it almost sounds like for "general illumination ahead of the vehicle", the number is 4, but that still doesn't address the definition of "a light" -- example, is a bar of LEDs that are in a group count as a light OR is each individual BULB count as a light..........

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My guess is the law is going to define each individual LED as a "light." If you read through the code it gets very specific about the maximum output of certain lights, including any one interior bulb (no greater than 15 candlepower... could LED interior lights be illegal? ).

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My guess is the law is going to define each individual LED as a "light." If you read through the code it gets very specific about the maximum output of certain lights, including any one interior bulb (no greater than 15 candlepower... could LED interior lights be illegal? ).

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After she had me sign the ticket I asked her....."Hey, what about this?" and I turned on my blue map lights. She peeked in and shook her head and said, "Well, I wouldn't drive with those on."

Meh...it's not points....just a fine.....I told her....."I'll accept as many warnings and tickets as you guys give me. I won't be removing the lights." She shrugged and said that was my choice. Then I asked her....."Hey, wanna see under the hood?" She was like...."SURE!" So there I was.....no lights on the fuel gauge....hood up.....12:15 AM on Fairfax County Parkway.....with two cops shining their flashlights into my hood checking my car out.

(before I opened hood I told her...."Ok, no matter what you see under here, you can't give me an additional ticket, ok?" She laughed and agreed....she was really cool....just doing her job)
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After she had me sign the ticket I asked her....."Hey, what about this?" and I turned on my blue map lights. She peeked in and shook her head and said, "Well, I wouldn't drive with those on."

Meh...it's not points....just a fine.....I told her....."I'll accept as many warnings and tickets as you guys give me. I won't be removing the lights." She shrugged and said that was my choice. Then I asked her....."Hey, wanna see under the hood?" She was like...."SURE!" So there I was.....no lights on the fuel gauge....hood up.....12:15 AM on Fairfax County Parkway.....with two cops shining their flashlights into my hood checking my car out.

(before I opened hood I told her...."Ok, no matter what you see under here, you can't give me an additional ticket, ok?" She laughed and agreed....she was really cool....just doing her job)
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