NOVA: Zs & Coffee - Starbucks every Saturday @ 10AM

2theextreme · 07-03-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

Great to meet all you guys today, hope to make it down again.

Ditto! Hope you can make it for the 17th of July @ Chantilly Nissan meet. That should be fun!

(I'm betting we'll have lunch at Ruby Tuesday's.....*hint hint*!)

TROOPER · 07-03-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Nice meeting you, Trooper!

Sweetwater was pretty good. Never been there before. As always, I had a great time. See you all next weekend!

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Originally Posted by Sscottfitz

Back at ya Darren -- nice Nismo -- look forward to seeing you next time.

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

Ditto! Hope you can make it for the 17th of July @ Chantilly Nissan meet. That should be fun!

(I'm betting we'll have lunch at Ruby Tuesday's.....*hint hint*!)

Tu-Shay :0

Gonna try making the Chantilly meet, sounds cool.

And tony thank for the link to the LED supplier

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

Great to meet all you guys today, hope to make it down again.

Back at ya Darren -- nice Nismo -- look forward to seeing you next time.

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 07:45 PM

Nice meeting you, Trooper!

Sweetwater was pretty good. Never been there before. As always, I had a great time. See you all next weekend!

2theextreme · 07-03-2010, 07:46 PM

Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z.......

STAY!!!!

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z.......

STAY!!!!

THE QUESTION -- is it too many lights OR too many light GROUPS........and WHAT IS THE NUMBER?

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 07:57 PM

So a quick search of the Code reveals...

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§ 46.2-1030. When lights to be lighted; number of lights to be lighted at any time; use of warning lights.

B. Not more than four lights used to provide general illumination ahead of the vehicle, including at least two headlights and any other combination of fog lights or other auxiliary lights approved by the Superintendent, shall be lighted at any time. However, this limitation shall not preclude the display of warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027, or other lights as may be authorized by the Superintendent.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp....2-1030+500541

Reading through 46.2-1020 to 46.2-1027 there is no mention of LEDs as approved lighting, so it really comes down to what the definition of "general illumination ahead of the vehicle" is, I think. Unless I'm missing something, even the Audi LEDs could be questioned.

My guess is the officer didn't write you up for the front lights because she didn't really think there was anything illegal about them... she might have thought that at first but after a little more thought it becomes apparent that it's terribly unclear.

Sscottfitz · 07-03-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So a quick search of the Code reveals...

Reading through 46.2-1020 to 46.2-1027 there is no mention of LEDs as approved lighting, so it really comes down to what the definition of "general illumination ahead of the vehicle" is, I think. Unless I'm missing something, even the Audi LEDs could be questioned.

My guess is the officer didn't write you up for the front lights because she didn't really think there was anything illegal about them... she might have thought that at first but after a little more thought it becomes apparent that it's terribly unclear.

Soooo, it almost sounds like for "general illumination ahead of the vehicle", the number is 4, but that still doesn't address the definition of "a light" -- example, is a bar of LEDs that are in a group count as a light OR is each individual BULB count as a light..........

I hate rain delays.......

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sscottfitz

Soooo, it almost sounds like for "general illumination ahead of the vehicle", the number is 4, but that still doesn't address the definition of "a light" -- example, is a bar of LEDs that are in a group count as a light OR is each individual BULB count as a light..........

I hate rain delays.......

My guess is the law is going to define each individual LED as a "light." If you read through the code it gets very specific about the maximum output of certain lights, including any one interior bulb (no greater than 15 candlepower... could LED interior lights be illegal?

).

Gotta love the Commonwealth.

2theextreme · 07-03-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

My guess is the law is going to define each individual LED as a "light." If you read through the code it gets very specific about the maximum output of certain lights, including any one interior bulb (no greater than 15 candlepower... could LED interior lights be illegal?

).

Gotta love the Commonwealth.

After she had me sign the ticket I asked her....."Hey, what about this?" and I turned on my blue map lights. She peeked in and shook her head and said, "Well, I wouldn't drive with those on."

Meh...it's not points....just a fine.....I told her....."I'll accept as many warnings and tickets as you guys give me. I won't be removing the lights." She shrugged and said that was my choice. Then I asked her....."Hey, wanna see under the hood?" She was like...."SURE!" So there I was.....no lights on the fuel gauge....hood up.....12:15 AM on Fairfax County Parkway.....with two cops shining their flashlights into my hood checking my car out.

(before I opened hood I told her...."Ok, no matter what you see under here, you can't give me an additional ticket, ok?" She laughed and agreed....she was really cool....just doing her job)

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2010, 08:00 PM

I would definitely replace the blue license plate lights, though. That is probably what really gets you pulled over.

Also, find some way to reduce the output of that fog light. It is TERRIBLY bright. When I follow your car I feel like tailgating you so I don't have to look at the foglight!

hazzazi · 07-04-2010, 11:06 AM

happy 4th of july everyone

m4a1mustang · 07-04-2010, 11:06 AM

Happy 4th!

tooohip · 07-04-2010, 02:02 PM

yes, yes, fire, fire...

SHIROZE · 07-06-2010, 04:50 PM

Forgot to take a pic of my car and I know Amar was there and gone by the time I showed up, so I just included a past pic of our cars together. Does anyone have a Smurf pic? Found One.

See ya this Saturday

07-03-2010, 07:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
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2theextreme RIP Tony :( (1969-2015) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 18,802 Drives: '14 Mustang GT/CS Rep Power: 68	Dang....I have too many lights on my Z. But what about those Audi's? They have like 12 LED's under their headlights.....I only have 9! Yeah yeah, blah blah their lights came that way....so what? Kiss my arse.....the lights on my Z....... *STAY!!!!* __________________ SpinTech Mufflers, Airaid CAI, JBA H-Pipe, Lethal Performance Over Axle Pipes, MMD Quarter Panel Louvers, Cervini's Ram Air Type IV Hood, Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover, GT500 Rear Valance, Quad Exhaust Tips

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	I would definitely replace the blue license plate lights, though. That is probably what really gets you pulled over. Also, find some way to reduce the output of that fog light. It is TERRIBLY bright. When I follow your car I feel like tailgating you so I don't have to look at the foglight! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-04-2010, 11:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
hazzazi Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA, Virginia / KSA Posts: 648 Drives: 09 nismo Silver Rep Power: 18	happy 4th of july everyone __________________ i Don't Drive Fast, i just Fly Slow.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Happy 4th! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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