I would be up for that. I already got a road I want to check out before it gets to late in the fall. I'm thinking of going before I sign in off leave. It is Arizona Highway 191 between Clifton, AZ and Alpine, AZ. It's pretty similar to the tail of the dragon except instead of being 11 miles it is roughly 100 and takes 2-3 hours to drive. Let me know how the group goes. I will be there by the 13th, then I have to inprocess and all that fun stuff.