SPOHN'S Journal II Track Demon Reborn

SPOHN · 04-18-2013, 09:01 PM

That should work good. I used a transmission jack without the plate. But you have to use your head when doing to make sure it's secure. This is why Z1's instructions have you installing them with the motor already out.

SPOHN · 04-18-2013, 09:09 PM

I'm almost about to jump on the new GTM TT kit so if i do my headers will be up for sale. They will be a hot ticket here.

wstar · 04-18-2013, 09:10 PM

Are these the magical 350Z ones that aren't produced anymore?

Sh0velMan · 04-18-2013, 09:12 PM

Where did you jack the engine up from?

SPOHN · 04-18-2013, 09:24 PM

Underneath the car. On the passenger side I got a straight shot on the mount that bolts to the engine. On the driver side it was a portion of the timing cover/ and the engine block. I know that doesn't sound pleasing but you have a very very limited area. But for me it's nothing. I can take another pic Saturday. But it only took my dad and I 15 minutes after our gameplan.

Sh0velMan · 04-18-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Underneath the car. On the passenger side I got a straight shot on the mount that bolts to the engine. On the driver side it was a portion of the timing cover/ and the engine block. I know that doesn't sound pleasing but you have a very very limited area. But for me it's nothing. I can take another pic Saturday. But it only took my dad and I 15 minutes after our gameplan.

Yeah driver's side sounds.. bad. Pics would be helpful. If you can see the engine-side mount bracket from below on the passenger's side, that sounds fairly straightforward.

I'd just think we'd wanna go fast, have everything unbolted already, get it up however high it needs to be, yank the stock one out, slap the new one in, lower it back down...

wstar · 04-18-2013, 09:37 PM

For tight spots like that, a bottle jack or two (sitting on top of something else... stack of boards, etc..) might be ideal.

SPOHN · 04-18-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Yeah driver's side sounds.. bad. Pics would be helpful. If you can see the engine-side mount bracket from below on the passenger's side, that sounds fairly straightforward.

I'd just think we'd wanna go fast, have everything unbolted already, get it up however high it needs to be, yank the stock one out, slap the new one in, lower it back down...

Yes. Fast is the best way. Once up you can pop in and out in seconds.

BigT · 04-18-2013, 10:43 PM

Awesome car, man. It is very nice and your hard work shows. Good luck with her.

Mike · 04-18-2013, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Oh one more thing I wanted to bug you about Spohn, since you have the same brake kit. No instructions on the pad clips, so I guessed in the rear (the front seems dead obvious). Is this the correct way to put in the rear pad clips (basically, pinched between the bridge bolt and the bottom of the caliper, bowed outwards between)?

I can't tell from your picture for sure, but each side of that clip should sit in a little hole on the pad guides. On the APs I have seen, that slot is only on one set of guides, and it looks like it on the opposite side of where you have it. Are the ends sitting in a little slot?

wstar · 04-19-2013, 08:12 AM

If that's true and I'm understanding you correctly, then the clip would only make contact with the pad backplate near the middle, right by the bridge bolt? If so, then yeah, I could have it backwards.

Mike · 04-19-2013, 09:21 AM

under the bridge bolt and then the other end should have two little ears that stick into the tab holes on the left side of the caliper in the picture where those slots are.

wstar · 04-19-2013, 09:24 AM

Yeah, I'm definitely not in little holes on the right currently, just have the right-most ears laying against the backplates. With how high up those holes on the left are, though, the plate would only be making pad contact in the middle near the bridge bolt, if I'm understanding right?

SPOHN · 04-21-2013, 05:13 PM

After some good driving on these mounts they are awesome. Mostly from the Transmission mounts. Did not realize how much slop was in the tranny area. Shifting transitions are so much smoother. Especially when turning. No flex at all. If anything I highly recommend the tranny bushing.

wstar · 04-22-2013, 10:57 AM

Nice, mine are in the mail (urethane engine/trans mounts)

BTW I decided to just kill the brake pad clips. I emailed Jim @ Stillen about the clips and about whether to lube anything in there, and his answer boiled down to, paraphrased: "that stuff's all about NVH. If you don't care about NVH, don't bother putting in the clips and don't bother with brake parts lube on the pad backplate either (or anywhere)."

04-18-2013, 09:01 PM	#406 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	That should work good. I used a transmission jack without the plate. But you have to use your head when doing to make sure it's secure. This is why Z1's instructions have you installing them with the motor already out. __________________

04-18-2013, 09:09 PM	#407 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I'm almost about to jump on the new GTM TT kit so if i do my headers will be up for sale. They will be a hot ticket here. __________________

04-18-2013, 09:10 PM	#408 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Are these the magical 350Z ones that aren't produced anymore? __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

04-18-2013, 09:12 PM	#409 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	Where did you jack the engine up from? __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

04-18-2013, 09:24 PM	#410 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Underneath the car. On the passenger side I got a straight shot on the mount that bolts to the engine. On the driver side it was a portion of the timing cover/ and the engine block. I know that doesn't sound pleasing but you have a very very limited area. But for me it's nothing. I can take another pic Saturday. But it only took my dad and I 15 minutes after our gameplan. __________________

04-18-2013, 09:37 PM	#412 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	For tight spots like that, a bottle jack or two (sitting on top of something else... stack of boards, etc..) might be ideal. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

04-18-2013, 10:43 PM	#414 (permalink)
BigT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 469 Drives: 98 2g DSM Rep Power: 13	Awesome car, man. It is very nice and your hard work shows. Good luck with her.

04-19-2013, 08:12 AM	#416 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	If that's true and I'm understanding you correctly, then the clip would only make contact with the pad backplate near the middle, right by the bridge bolt? If so, then yeah, I could have it backwards. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

04-19-2013, 09:21 AM	#417 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	under the bridge bolt and then the other end should have two little ears that stick into the tab holes on the left side of the caliper in the picture where those slots are. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

04-19-2013, 09:24 AM	#418 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Yeah, I'm definitely not in little holes on the right currently, just have the right-most ears laying against the backplates. With how high up those holes on the left are, though, the plate would only be making pad contact in the middle near the bridge bolt, if I'm understanding right? __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

04-21-2013, 05:13 PM	#419 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Updates on Z1 Poly Motor Mounts & Transmission Mount After some good driving on these mounts they are awesome. Mostly from the Transmission mounts. Did not realize how much slop was in the tranny area. Shifting transitions are so much smoother. Especially when turning. No flex at all. If anything I highly recommend the tranny bushing. __________________

04-22-2013, 10:57 AM	#420 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Nice, mine are in the mail (urethane engine/trans mounts) BTW I decided to just kill the brake pad clips. I emailed Jim @ Stillen about the clips and about whether to lube anything in there, and his answer boiled down to, paraphrased: "that stuff's all about NVH. If you don't care about NVH, don't bother putting in the clips and don't bother with brake parts lube on the pad backplate either (or anywhere)." __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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