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Mike 07-12-2013 08:17 PM

So, three months later, I've finally got my new wing, Aeromotions, static version, and am ready for VIR next weekend with NASA and Forged.

I purchased the wing from our other resident pro driver bkleeman (Brian Kleeman, DWW Motorsports , Pirelli World Challenge series)

Not only did the old wing crack, but where the smallish mounts attached to the decklid, the force pushing down on the hatch actually cracked the aluminum skin.

Since we had to repair that, and I didn't want it happening again, my body shop, Autoglo, in Tucker GA, (great shop, way better than any other I have EVER dealt with!!!!!!), made some custom formed, I think 1/8 or 3/32" plates to spread the force out over a larger area, then panel bonded, bolted and blended them into the hatch, and mounted the new wing to that.

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Rusty 07-12-2013 08:37 PM

Nice mike. :D How much down force you think the old wing was pushing? Wondering because of the cracks, or was it from just when the old wing failed?

Baer383 07-12-2013 08:41 PM

Looks real good Mike!!!!:hello:

Mike 07-12-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2402289)
Nice mike. :D How much down force you think the old wing was pushing? Wondering because of the cracks, or was it from just when the old wing failed?

I really have no idea. When I had the car at the bodyshop for cage painting, the owner saw the paint was cracking around the wing base and wasn't happy about it, but we think it was just paint at that point.

I was doing 155 on the high banks of Daytona, which added a lot more G force, so it probably added to it. When I took the old wing off, the cracks were about an inch and a half long at the back end of the mounting bases.

I had that wing at its lowest possible angle too!

FL 4Motion 07-13-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2402307)
I really have no idea. When I had the car at the bodyshop for cage painting, the owner saw the paint was cracking around the wing base and wasn't happy about it, but we think it was just paint at that point.

I was doing 155 on the high banks of Daytona, which added a lot more G force, so it probably added to it. When I took the old wing off, the cracks were about an inch and a half long at the back end of the mounting bases.

I had that wing at its lowest possible angle too!

/\ that's moving! :tup:

HKYStormFront 07-13-2013 12:42 PM

you'll love it! brian said it made a huuuuge difference instantly out on track!

SPOHN 07-13-2013 12:45 PM

Sweetness. Mike I got your splitter ready. Might have to wait till next Friday or weekend before I drive over.

travisjb 07-13-2013 09:18 PM

sweet! that's the right wing for this car, you're going to be happy

I usually set mine up for 8-9 degrees as measured along the top two high points... you look about 13+ degrees from the pic, which is way too much for this wing... You might be able to get a chart from aeromotions but my understanding is the sweet spot between drag and download is 8-9 (not much more down after that but a lot more drag)

Consider getting a thin aluminum angle strip that you can use as a gurney flap, and once you apply it with a strong adhesive, then run some electrical tape along the sides

A number of racers I trust told me to reverse the side plates... I think aeromotions did it the way they did to have a cool look, but *I think* they a bit more efficient reversed... could be wrong, but this side plates are backwards from most other designs... when you reverse them, the holes should line up fine

Mike 07-13-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2402929)
Sweetness. Mike I got your splitter ready. Might have to wait till next Friday or weekend before I drive over.

ok, we can do it anytime after I get back. Next month schedule might come out tomorrow or the next day.

Mike 07-13-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 2403423)
sweet! that's the right wing for this car, you're going to be happy

I usually set mine up for 8-9 degrees as measured along the top two high points... you look about 13+ degrees from the pic, which is way too much for this wing... You might be able to get a chart from aeromotions but my understanding is the sweet spot between drag and download is 8-9 (not much more down after that but a lot more drag)

Consider getting a thin aluminum angle strip that you can use as a gurney flap, and once you apply it with a strong adhesive, then run some electrical tape along the sides

A number of racers I trust told me to reverse the side plates... I think aeromotions did it the way they did to have a cool look, but *I think* they a bit more efficient reversed... could be wrong, but this side plates are backwards from most other designs... when you reverse them, the holes should line up fine

Yeah, I don't have an angle gauge and just eyeballed it. Brian said his is a bit lower, but they are planning to raise it to about where mine is. I think I'm going to start a little lower and see how it works out, and adjust from there. With the turnbuckles, it will be fairly easy.

Mike 07-13-2013 09:33 PM

although, I ran the APR at lowest AOA and Z1's driver increased the angle on their car (they bought the replacement from me). who knows? I guess its all personal preference and feel.

Mike 07-15-2013 06:06 AM

I bought an angle measurer yesterday at Harbor freight. Its at 6 degrees.

SPOHN 07-15-2013 07:45 AM

I have a app for it. Works dead on when I tested against other tools.

Mike 07-19-2013 08:23 PM

At NASA Mid Atlantic, VIR.
All loaded up yesterday:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...92837548_n.jpg

When checking the wheel torque after a session, I found a snapped stud. Had to drive one more session in the instructor school to complete it, so I had them tech the tow vehicle and took it out for a half session. It behaved well in the high speed stuff, even hitting 90 in the esses, but didn't like the slower speed corners.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...12665167_n.jpg

Got a new wheel stud from the local Nissan dealer and fixed the car, so I'm all good for the weekend, and I'm now a NASA instructor.

GaleForce 07-19-2013 08:27 PM

Congrats!


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