M.Bonanni Project 370Z V3.0 | Clean Slate

M.Bonanni · 07-05-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

M.Bonanni reloaded. Nice job. I plan to seriously track next year. I do have one day booked this year. Can't beat on her just yet (4K miles) Just holding out. I'll eventually need some great coilovers.

Psh, my first track weekend my Z had 900 miles on it.

SPOHN · 07-05-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by M.Bonanni

Psh, my first track weekend my Z had 900 miles on it.

I here ya.

travisjb · 07-05-2011, 09:42 PM

This is exciting news, Mike! You know my car is a NASA TTA car so I'll be watching this thread and if okay with you chiming in with my own thoughts on occassion... good that your emphasis will be on tuning/tweaking vs bolt-ons...

There are a few posts in my build journal where I talk about the trade-offs of what fits into the TTA class... might be worth re-reading those as you plan out your points trade-offs

christian370z · 07-06-2011, 01:22 AM

I love the way you laid out the progression as a step by step guide, very cool Mike! Even after being heat cycled, how do the RS-3s hold up in street use? Are they a big improvement over the RE050s?

Jerggy13 · 07-06-2011, 05:48 AM

Nice thread and very well thought out mods. I wish my wife would let me do the same on her car.

I guess it is easier to ask for forgiveness than ask permission......RIGHT???

Keep it up and good luck on the track day. Keep us updated.

RCZ · 07-06-2011, 11:14 AM

V3.0 haha. This car has such an identity crisis.
I like the idea of a racer on the cheap, forces you to be more creative and keeps the ideas more accessible to us weekend warriors. I'll also be keeping an eye on this.

Mike, Have you considered running a Mocal Laminar Water oil cooler? I am just itching to switch to one, but there just isnt much to go on as far as data for these cars. The guys at AM Performance are using a similar water oil cooler from C&R Racing and they said it keeps them at 180-200 deg on the track. Both are very cool units and they don't block the radiator / are much easier to protect from debris and smaller, but relatively expensive ($420 for mocal, $650 for C&R). They do however allow the oil to heat up much quicker on startup, then it remains rock steady. Any input on this from the racers? Travis? I'm wondering if the stock radiator is enough to keep both the coolant and oil cool.

M.Bonanni · 07-06-2011, 07:15 PM

Thanks everyone!

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Originally Posted by travisjb

This is exciting news, Mike! You know my car is a NASA TTA car so I'll be watching this thread and if okay with you chiming in with my own thoughts on occassion... good that your emphasis will be on tuning/tweaking vs bolt-ons...

There are a few posts in my build journal where I talk about the trade-offs of what fits into the TTA class... might be worth re-reading those as you plan out your points trade-offs

Yeah I plan on getting caught up on your thread to see how in the hell your car fits into that class and still you can run Hoosiers. I am having a hard time planning my build while keeping within the points bracket for TT-A on street tires.

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Originally Posted by RCZ

V3.0 haha. This car has such an identity crisis.
I like the idea of a racer on the cheap, forces you to be more creative and keeps the ideas more accessible to us weekend warriors. I'll also be keeping an eye on this.

Mike, Have you considered running a Mocal Laminar Water oil cooler? I am just itching to switch to one, but there just isnt much to go on as far as data for these cars. The guys at AM Performance are using a similar water oil cooler from C&R Racing and they said it keeps them at 180-200 deg on the track. Both are very cool units and they don't block the radiator / are much easier to protect from debris and smaller, but relatively expensive ($420 for mocal, $650 for C&R). They do however allow the oil to heat up much quicker on startup, then it remains rock steady. Any input on this from the racers? Travis? I'm wondering if the stock radiator is enough to keep both the coolant and oil cool.

We tried a laminova cooler on the Berk 135i and it was a complete failure. I am sure they work great if you have the proper cooling system to back it up but that just adds to the cost of the whole package.

M.Bonanni · 07-06-2011, 07:21 PM

Back to the project and I have some bad news. Unfortunately I will not be able to go out and test the car at Buttonwillow this weekend after all.

The RS-3 tires that are on there right now have 1 track day left in them at best. I was counting on another set of RS-3s but that fell through. Since these are my only set of wheels/tires for the car, and its still my daily driver, I can't risk cording these tires until I have replacements ready to put on.

ChrisSlicks · 07-06-2011, 08:06 PM

That's too bad Mike. The Miata folks have been complaining about the RS-3 for months, they are on national back order and no one can get them.

M.Bonanni · 07-06-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

That's too bad Mike. The Miata folks have been complaining about the RS-3 for months, they are on national back order and no one can get them.

Yeah I am really bummed. Mine were not coming from Hankook, mine were coming second hand (barely used) but they decided to keep them instead. As for the Miata guys, they're probably just out of their sizes. Last I checked they still have a bunch of the sizes I need, I just can't afford a new set right now.

Travis - Clear your PM box, I have questions to ask you.

RCZ · 07-06-2011, 08:25 PM

Thanks, that saves me a whole lot of pain and time.

travisjb · 07-06-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by M.Bonanni

Thanks everyone!

Yeah I plan on getting caught up on your thread to see how in the hell your car fits into that class and still you can run Hoosiers. I am having a hard time planning my build while keeping within the points bracket for TT-A on street tires.

really important point... i had the car re-classed based upon power to weight as TTA (no stars)... it allowed me to run the car at a much reduced weight... i was not using hoosiers though... that kicked me into TTS... was running 275 square NT01 setup in TTA trim... ask Greg for the same power/weight reclass that I had... I can email it to you also

Boost_lee · 07-07-2011, 03:01 AM

love all versions of this car.
Definitely looking forward to results of the oil cooler panels. Did you only create plates for the sides? Or did you do the top and bottom also?

kevin.z · 07-07-2011, 03:45 AM

I love the track focus and performance dedication of this car.

What do you think about switching to Enkei Rpf-1s rims in 17-inch with 275 tire square set up? They are incredibly light and I am guessing 17' should fit stock brakes. I heard reducing rotational mass makes a huge difference in turns of driving feel. Correct me if I am wrong, but the forgestars are not exactly lightweight rims?
Also, on the subject of reduce weight, what do you think about single catback exhaust? that should cut some weight as well.

ChrisSlicks · 07-07-2011, 07:16 AM

17's don't clear the sport brakes, but will clear the base brakes. Enkei's are great wheels though and they do make 18's.

07-05-2011, 09:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	This is exciting news, Mike! You know my car is a NASA TTA car so I'll be watching this thread and if okay with you chiming in with my own thoughts on occassion... good that your emphasis will be on tuning/tweaking vs bolt-ons... There are a few posts in my build journal where I talk about the trade-offs of what fits into the TTA class... might be worth re-reading those as you plan out your points trade-offs __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

07-06-2011, 01:22 AM	#19 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	I love the way you laid out the progression as a step by step guide, very cool Mike! Even after being heat cycled, how do the RS-3s hold up in street use? Are they a big improvement over the RE050s? __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

07-06-2011, 07:21 PM	#23 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	Back to the project and I have some bad news. Unfortunately I will not be able to go out and test the car at Buttonwillow this weekend after all. The RS-3 tires that are on there right now have 1 track day left in them at best. I was counting on another set of RS-3s but that fell through. Since these are my only set of wheels/tires for the car, and its still my daily driver, I can't risk cording these tires until I have replacements ready to put on. __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

07-06-2011, 08:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	That's too bad Mike. The Miata folks have been complaining about the RS-3 for months, they are on national back order and no one can get them. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-07-2011, 03:01 AM	#28 (permalink)
Boost_lee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 2,813 Drives: 09 370Z TT 6MT Rep Power: 29	love all versions of this car. Definitely looking forward to results of the oil cooler panels. Did you only create plates for the sides? Or did you do the top and bottom also? __________________ My TT Z

07-06-2011, 05:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jerggy13 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 517 Drives: with 6 TB's Rep Power: 375	Nice thread and very well thought out mods. I wish my wife would let me do the same on her car. I guess it is easier to ask for forgiveness than ask permission......RIGHT??? Keep it up and good luck on the track day. Keep us updated.

07-06-2011, 11:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	V3.0 haha. This car has such an identity crisis. I like the idea of a racer on the cheap, forces you to be more creative and keeps the ideas more accessible to us weekend warriors. I'll also be keeping an eye on this. Mike, Have you considered running a Mocal Laminar Water oil cooler? I am just itching to switch to one, but there just isnt much to go on as far as data for these cars. The guys at AM Performance are using a similar water oil cooler from C&R Racing and they said it keeps them at 180-200 deg on the track. Both are very cool units and they don't block the radiator / are much easier to protect from debris and smaller, but relatively expensive ($420 for mocal, $650 for C&R). They do however allow the oil to heat up much quicker on startup, then it remains rock steady. Any input on this from the racers? Travis? I'm wondering if the stock radiator is enough to keep both the coolant and oil cool.

07-06-2011, 08:25 PM	#26 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Thanks, that saves me a whole lot of pain and time.

07-07-2011, 03:45 AM	#29 (permalink)
kevin.z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: vancouver(shipping:WA Posts: 359 Drives: 09 370z M6 PGtouring Rep Power: 16	I love the track focus and performance dedication of this car. What do you think about switching to Enkei Rpf-1s rims in 17-inch with 275 tire square set up? They are incredibly light and I am guessing 17' should fit stock brakes. I heard reducing rotational mass makes a huge difference in turns of driving feel. Correct me if I am wrong, but the forgestars are not exactly lightweight rims? Also, on the subject of reduce weight, what do you think about single catback exhaust? that should cut some weight as well.

07-07-2011, 07:16 AM	#30 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	17's don't clear the sport brakes, but will clear the base brakes. Enkei's are great wheels though and they do make 18's. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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