Nissan 370Z Forum  

wstar's Journal

You cant rev the car past 5XXXrpm in neutral. You guys ever notice this? Might be a built in limiter to protect the engine. I went with the factory ester

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Member's 370Z Gallery


Like Tree183Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2009, 12:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1119
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

You cant rev the car past 5XXXrpm in neutral. You guys ever notice this? Might be a built in limiter to protect the engine.

I went with the factory ester oil for my oil change. I wanted to see if the oil cooler does its job without worrying about whether the oil had something to do with it.

From what my tech said, nothing will happen if you switch to syn, the only problem is that the valvetrain will be a lot louder. You are going to get clicking...
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2009, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
travisjb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: GSO
Posts: 2,803
Drives: VIR
Rep Power: 189
travisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCZ View Post
You cant rev the car past 5XXXrpm in neutral. You guys ever notice this? Might be a built in limiter to protect the engine.
Did you verify that in your car or are you echoing the comment from the other thread ? If you verified, have you tried it when shifting from 1st to 2nd ?... ie I'd understand if you were just sitting there standstill with clutch pushed in it might limit to 5K... I'd guess that nissan did this to avoid having folks pop the clutch at 7k in 1st gear - would take a toll on the drivetrain and drive warranty costs... but something tells me that between upshifts the revs aren't limited in this way... still depending on someone else to verify - car in shop
travisjb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2009, 12:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3595
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCZ View Post
You cant rev the car past 5XXXrpm in neutral. You guys ever notice this? Might be a built in limiter to protect the engine.
Yeah I noticed this pretty early on. Clearly the car must be capable of being higher in neutral when driving though, or that would totally screw up some shifting scenarios. I haven't yet tried putting my 7AT in neutral at freeway speeds and seeing if the limit is still there. Those kinds of behaviors might be very different between 7AT and 6MT though.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2009, 12:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
semtex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Behind enemy lines
Age: 54
Posts: 5,995
Drives: People to drink
Rep Power: 33
semtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCZ View Post
You cant rev the car past 5XXXrpm in neutral. You guys ever notice this? Might be a built in limiter to protect the engine.
You can if you press the clutch in. I found this out when I was making one of the initial sound clips for my exhaust. And I seem to recall that it limited the revs to 4500, not 5000, if I didn't press the clutch in.

Edit: I just remembered that in addition to pressing the clutch in, I had to slip it into 1st gear in order to rev past 5k (or 4.5k or whatever it was). So technically you are correct, RCZ. You can't rev past 5k in N.
__________________
"There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna
316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) | 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10)
Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

Last edited by semtex; 04-24-2009 at 01:12 PM.
semtex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2009, 02:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3595
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I tested the "revving in neutral" thing on the freeway last night. In neutral rolling at highway speeds, 7AT will rev well past the 5k mark (I didn't try to hit the 7.5 limiter though). So the 5k limit on 7AT must be triggered by being in park, or being at low/zero speed, one of the two.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2009, 03:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3595
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Also, today I removed my spare and subwoofer (radio actually sounds ok without it, to me), and removed the XM and Voice/Bluetooth modules. I left all the carpeting and plastic in afterwards. No pics, sorry My car is Touring w/o Nav, which is "Bose without Navigation" in the Service Manual. The removed peices are 7, 8, and 9 on this diagram:



The stock head unit responded fine to the changes. The voice buttons on the steering wheel and the SAT button on the radio now just do nothing, there are no wierd errors or anything.


I can slightly feel that the backend got relatively lighter from this, but it's not too bad, since my bag of tools and emergency equipment (which I had behind the passenger seat before) was pretty hefty and made up for some of the lost weight.

The spot I removed those units from looks like a great place for either battery relocation or to install a Magden performance computer. Although on the other hand, mounting them further to the rear (sub/spare) area will help with weight distribution more.

__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TravisJB Journal travisjb Member's 370Z Gallery 1977 11-03-2017 09:39 AM
DannyGT's Journal/Progress DannyGT Member's 370Z Gallery 174 10-17-2017 10:25 AM
RCZ's 370Z Journal. RCZ Member's 370Z Gallery 1743 08-09-2013 11:55 PM
Edmonton Journal Review of the 370Z BanningZ Nissan 370Z General Discussions 13 08-09-2009 05:44 PM
LiquidZ's Journal LiquidZ Member's 370Z Gallery 22 05-22-2009 11:42 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2