TravisJB Journal

ChrisSlicks · 02-22-2010, 06:19 PM

Like the new improved heat shield. What did you use for spacers?

Fathead · 02-22-2010, 06:27 PM

3/8 stainless rod.

travisjb · 02-22-2010, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

If you're running 2 pumps and 2 fan packs wont air boxes and all the extra ducting be a bit of an overkill for the diff?

I was thinking that one would be plenty for me, but then I'm not beating on it quite as hard as you.

You may be right... car goes back to Redline Motorsports soon and one of the things they are really good at is figuring stuff like this out... from a quick conversation with them, it might be TOO much cooling for the diff to include a fan - you do want the gear oil to get up to a certain temp... so if there is a fan, would likely need a them switch to go with it... will update on this later

travisjb · 02-22-2010, 07:21 PM

Junior, nice job with the heat shield!

Fathead · 02-22-2010, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

You may be right... car goes back to Redline Motorsports soon and one of the things they are really good at is figuring stuff like this out... from a quick conversation with them, it might be TOO much cooling for the diff to include a fan - you do want the gear oil to get up to a certain temp... so if there is a fan, would likely need a them switch to go with it... will update on this later

I dont think we need any fans. The air drawn through the car will be more than enough. A lot of race cars are not even running coolers and doing fine, so the addition to a cooler as well as a fan might be a bit much. My 0.02

travisjb · 02-22-2010, 10:09 PM

you're prob right... more than happy to skip the fans!

kdoske · 02-22-2010, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

you're prob right... more than happy to skip the fans!

just use these $25.00 inline 15amp thermostats. When 180F is reached it acts as an inline switch and turns it on the device(s). Can't exceed 15amps with the model posted.

Derale In-Line Fan Control Thermostat with -6 AN Fittings - 180 Degrees Derale Radiator Fans D13021

You could have three options.

1. connect the thermostat to your pumps and have them shut the pumps on and off when 180 degrees is reached and don't use any fans.

2. have the pumps running all the time and connect the thermostat only to the fans.

3. connect everything to the thermostat.

Personally I would go option 1.

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As for the pumps I would go with Mocal Oil pumps. There are two main ones, one is rated at 300F and the other 350. When it comes to oil pumps the higher the temp rating the longer pump life you are gonna have.

300F oil Mocal Oil Pump:
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...al_Cooler_Pump

- flow rate 1.0- 2.0 GPM and up to 54 PSI
- weight: 3.5 lbs
- 3/8" NPT fittings
- 8-amp current draw

350F oil Mocal Oil Pump: (probably over kill)
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...al_Cooler_Pump

- 3 GPM @ 60+ psi
- 350f temp rating
- self-priming
- quiet low vibration operation
- 10,000 hour rated bearings & motor brushes
- hardened bronze pump (spur) gear rotors
- black anodized aluminum heatsink
- nickel plated pump head
- stainless pump head fasteners
- 3/8" NPT inlet/outlet
- high temperature internal wiring
- 3 foot wiring lead with (supplied) weatherproof connectors
- rubber-isolated mounting bracket and feet
- dimensions 6.2" x 4.1" x 4.0"

travisjb · 02-22-2010, 11:49 PM

great post! TY sir +1

leaning towards your option 1... will put more thought into the first pump... only need 1-2 gpm and you're right, not expecting more than 300F

kdoske · 02-23-2010, 12:00 AM

Thanks man

Also, something I forgot to mention, If the thermostat is connected to the pumps the fluid won't be flowing through the actually thermostat so you will want the thermostats as close to the diff housing as possible to make sure it is an accurate reading. As long as the thermostats is the right against the housing there should only be a -5 degree difference or less I would imagine.

travisjb · 02-23-2010, 09:45 PM

2 things...

1. I have the wiring harness and it looks like the right part... Thank you LOU FUSZ! will install later this week

2. Junior is thinking about offering a service where you ship him your crank sensor heat shield and he would upgrade it and send it back to you for a flate rate including shipping... we want to know if this would be worthwhile, so please go here Crank Position Sensor Heat Sheild Feeler??????? and provide feedback... he would have to be a forum sponsor to offer this for real, so we are trying to figure out if it's worth the money for him to become a sponsor... thanks

FuszNissan · 02-23-2010, 11:34 PM

Finally came in...lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

2 things...

1. I have the wiring harness and it looks like the right part... Thank you LOU FUSZ! will install later this week

2. Junior is thinking about offering a service where you ship him your crank sensor heat shield and he would upgrade it and send it back to you for a flate rate including shipping... we want to know if this would be worthwhile, so please go here Crank Position Sensor Heat Sheild Feeler??????? and provide feedback... he would have to be a forum sponsor to offer this for real, so we are trying to figure out if it's worth the money for him to become a sponsor... thanks

Zless@arizona · 02-24-2010, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fathead

So here is a shot of the crank pos. sensor. From the looks of it the factory knew this was going to be a hot spot, thats why there is all ready a cheesee heat sheild on it. Makes it easier to modify a bracket, here is what I did.

mounted!

Fathead! You did awesome! Yeah, it is close to the exhaust! What did Nissan expect?!!! Maybe with Toyoda getting his butt reamed in Congress, Nissan will build a better CSPS! Travis...people on this thread are doing their best to help you be successful...it is awesome to watch! Luck is not involved. You are getting good data! 1:04!!!

travisjb · 02-25-2010, 02:09 AM

I agree, Greg... appreciate everyone's involvement in the build if I haven't mentioned that enough already! this is practically a forum community car (no you can't drive it!

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travisjb · 02-26-2010, 01:20 AM

Hey all, I did shifter karts for the first time tonight! Go do this!!

Zless@arizona · 02-28-2010, 11:53 PM

#104,
I found the info that I PMd you: "And speaking of axles, the rear axle in the Titan is a smallish variant similar to a Dana 44, where the Tundra is available with a massive 101/2-inch ring gear similar to a Corporate 14-bolt."

Source:
2008 Nissan Titan Pro4X Vs 2008 Toyota Tundra TRD - Tundra 4x4 Double Cab - 4Wheel & Off-Road Magazine

02-22-2010, 07:21 PM	#769 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Junior, nice job with the heat shield! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-22-2010, 10:09 PM	#771 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	you're prob right... more than happy to skip the fans! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-22-2010, 11:49 PM	#773 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	great post! TY sir +1 leaning towards your option 1... will put more thought into the first pump... only need 1-2 gpm and you're right, not expecting more than 300F __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-23-2010, 09:45 PM	#775 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	2 things... 1. I have the wiring harness and it looks like the right part... Thank you LOU FUSZ! will install later this week 2. Junior is thinking about offering a service where you ship him your crank sensor heat shield and he would upgrade it and send it back to you for a flate rate including shipping... we want to know if this would be worthwhile, so please go here Crank Position Sensor Heat Sheild Feeler??????? and provide feedback... he would have to be a forum sponsor to offer this for real, so we are trying to figure out if it's worth the money for him to become a sponsor... thanks __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale Last edited by travisjb; 02-23-2010 at 09:55 PM.

02-25-2010, 02:09 AM	#778 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I agree, Greg... appreciate everyone's involvement in the build if I haven't mentioned that enough already! this is practically a forum community car (no you can't drive it! ) __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-22-2010, 06:19 PM	#766 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Like the new improved heat shield. What did you use for spacers?

02-22-2010, 06:27 PM	#767 (permalink)
Fathead Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 62 Drives: Chevy Trucks Rep Power: 16	3/8 stainless rod.

02-23-2010, 12:00 AM	#774 (permalink)
kdoske Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 541 Drives: 800whp Unicorn FI Z Rep Power: 17	Thanks man Also, something I forgot to mention, If the thermostat is connected to the pumps the fluid won't be flowing through the actually thermostat so you will want the thermostats as close to the diff housing as possible to make sure it is an accurate reading. As long as the thermostats is the right against the housing there should only be a -5 degree difference or less I would imagine.

02-26-2010, 01:20 AM	#779 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Hey all, I did shifter karts for the first time tonight! Go do this!! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-28-2010, 11:53 PM	#780 (permalink)
Zless@arizona Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tallahassee Florida Posts: 71 Drives: '01 Chvrlt Tahoe 4x3 Rep Power: 16	Gotta Love Those Big Rears! #104, I found the info that I PMd you: "And speaking of axles, the rear axle in the Titan is a smallish variant similar to a Dana 44, where the Tundra is available with a massive 101/2-inch ring gear similar to a Corporate 14-bolt." Source: 2008 Nissan Titan Pro4X Vs 2008 Toyota Tundra TRD - Tundra 4x4 Double Cab - 4Wheel & Off-Road Magazine __________________ The only U.S.A.-available Mobil1 oil that is BMW LL01 is 0W-40...most of M1's engine oil is hydrocracked/GIII junk.

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