RCZ's 370Z Journal.

semtex · 05-06-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Haha you guys are Jerks, I should've sat quietly! I should have DDM pay me for that just now.

If I'm not mistaken, CZP has SS brake lines out for us already.
Stoptech Rotors, Hawk Pads, CZP Brake Lines, >>

You guys want to get a group discount going on some real brake pads? I can talk to Carbotech for us. They are starting production on the pads this week.

Cobalt is another option

Yeah, I'd be up for SS lines and pads. I was waiting on EBC Yellowstuff myself, but I'm open to other options.

ChrisSlicks · 05-06-2009, 09:09 PM

The EBC is a great street pad where as the Carbotech is a track only pad. Probably wouldn't want to use it on the street full time as it takes some temperature to work effectively.

travisjb · 05-06-2009, 06:18 PM

prob this one http://www.the370z.com/double-down-m...html#post67909

semtex · 05-06-2009, 07:00 PM

Yeah I just ordered the brace myself.

travisjb · 05-06-2009, 07:13 PM

ditto

RCZ · 05-06-2009, 09:03 PM

I'll see if they give us a nice deal on a set of XP10's or 12's

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Carbotech™ XP10™ (1110™)

When Carbotech unleashed the XP10™ to the general public, and it was an instant success, gathering multiple regional, divisional, and national championships. The XP10™ is a very high initial bite friction material, with a coefficient of friction and rotor friendliness unmatched in the industry. Fade resistance is in excess of 1650°F. Due to the high level of friction and bite, this material is recommended for cars weighing around 2,000lbs or more, not including formula cars and cars with brake bias bars weighing less than 2,000lbs. This is the preferred compound for the front of Spec Miata racers, SSC,SSB, T3, SRF, ITS, ITE, H1,H2, H3, H4, 944 Cup, ST, GS, Factory Five Cobra’s and many more Grand-Am/ALMS/SCCA/NASA classes. XP10™ is also ideal for advanced/instructor level HPDE drivers. XP10™ still maintains the highly praised release and excellent modulation, rotor friendliness, and 100% non-corrosive dust that have made all Carbotech compounds so successful. XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

Carbotech™ XP12™ (1112™)

The latest iteration of the highly successful XP™ series of compounds with an extremely high initial bite, torque and fade resistance than compound XP10™. XP12™ is a world leading friction compound that is unmatched as a Ceramic racing compound, with a temperature range of 250°F to 2000°F+. The XP12™ still has that excellent Carbotech release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech compounds so successful. The XP12™ is the most rotor aggressive compound Carbotech offers, but compared to the competition the XP12™ is still very rotor friendly and contains 100% non-corrosive dust. XP12™ is recommended only for expert/very advanced drivers. XP12™ is found to be most affective on race cars weighing 2,400lbs or more using R-Compound tires; or street cars weighing 3,200lbs or more for track use only. Ideal for LMP1, LMP2, DP, T1, T2, T3, H1, H2, GT1, GT2, GT3, TC, GT, ST, GS, MX-5 Cup, etc… XP12™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

Or the Cobalt XR1/XR3 Combo which are amazing too, but waaay more corrosive on the wheels.

http://www.cobaltfriction.com/compounds/

RCZ · 05-06-2009, 09:34 PM

Everyone I know who has them + all the online reviews say they have better cold bite than most stock street pads.

I plan on only using them on the track

ChrisSlicks · 05-06-2009, 10:10 PM

You may be right about the stock pads, their cold bight is pretty lame. At the track the Carbotech's rock! Haven't tried them in the 370 yet but in every other car they've performed very well.

semtex · 05-07-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Everyone I know who has them + all the online reviews say they have better cold bite than most stock street pads.

I plan on only using them on the track

I'm a little confused. If they have good cold bite, better than stock street pads even, then why are you only planning to use them on the track? I'm only looking to upgrade my street pads, so maybe I'll go in for SS lines with you guys only, and get the EBC Yellows as I had originally planned.

RCZ · 05-07-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I'm a little confused. If they have good cold bite, better than stock street pads even, then why are you only planning to use them on the track? I'm only looking to upgrade my street pads, so maybe I'll go in for SS lines with you guys only, and get the EBC Yellows as I had originally planned.

Its a preference thing. As any good track pad is, they are noisy and dust a whole lot. If anyone ever tells you their pad is amazing at the track, quiet and low dusting, they are lying to you. So I am planning on taking them out after every trackday. That way I dont wear down my trackpads on the street...

westpak · 05-07-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Its a preference thing. As any good track pad is, they are noisy and dust a whole lot. If anyone ever tells you their pad is amazing at the track, quiet and low dusting, they are lying to you. So I am planning on taking them out after every trackday. That way I dont wear down my trackpads on the street...

I agree, there is no such thing as a great street/track pad

if it is good for the street it will be toast on the track, and if good for the track it will suck on the street mainly due to the noise and also dust

westpak · 05-07-2009, 07:50 AM

yellows are track pads also, the reds are a great street/autox pad

semtex · 05-07-2009, 08:33 AM

Well, I ran EBC Yellow on my 350Z with a StopTech BBK as my everyday street pads. They worked great. I never tracked them though. But according to you they're track pads, right? And you're right -- I checked with EBC and they are indeed track pads. So maybe EBC Yellows are the exception to the rule that there's no such thing as a pad that's good for both street and track (?).

westpak · 05-07-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Well, I ran EBC Yellow on my 350Z with a StopTech BBK as my everyday street pads. They worked great. I never tracked them though. But according to you they're track pads, right? And you're right -- I checked with EBC and they are indeed track pads. So maybe EBC Yellows are the exception to the rule that there's no such thing as a pad that's good for both street and track (?).

interesting, I ran the Reds and were great, only squealed once in a blue moon and stopped great, but I know people that tracked them and they were notup to the extreme temps.

that is cool the yellows were good for you on the street, for the track I have seen some seasoned guys give up on the yellows though and switched to Carbotechs

ChrisSlicks · 05-07-2009, 09:17 AM

There is no one size fits all. In the warmer climates you can get away with running a track pad on the street but you will pay the price of noise and dust and shortened rotor life. If you wash your car every weekend then the dust might not be an issue for you.

05-06-2009, 07:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Yeah I just ordered the brace myself. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

05-07-2009, 07:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
westpak Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lake Worth, FL Posts: 405 Drives: 2003 350Z DB Rep Power: 17	yellows are track pads also, the reds are a great street/autox pad __________________ 03 350Z 587 RWHP - May 2009 Dsport Feature

05-07-2009, 08:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Well, I ran EBC Yellow on my 350Z with a StopTech BBK as my everyday street pads. They worked great. I never tracked them though. But according to you they're track pads, right? And you're right -- I checked with EBC and they are indeed track pads. So maybe EBC Yellows are the exception to the rule that there's no such thing as a pad that's good for both street and track (?). __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf. Last edited by semtex; 05-07-2009 at 08:54 AM.

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	There is no one size fits all. In the warmer climates you can get away with running a track pad on the street but you will pay the price of noise and dust and shortened rotor life. If you wash your car every weekend then the dust might not be an issue for you.